nuDynasty Episode Chat S01E20 A Line From The Past

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Yeah, so I figured I'd make another discussion thread for this episode so that no one else will have to, and this will be my last one before I head off out of town for a two week vacation.

Anyways, it's pretty ironic how there's this idea being thrown around about Alexis marrying Jeff instead of Cecil and yet we end up with this little gem:

Alexis finds an unlikely ally in Jeff Colby in her war against Blake

And here's another interesting nugget which I wasn't expecting:

Torn between loyalties, Fallon must decide whether to side with the company or go and help Michael and the Culhanes.

Okay this part is really weird because it sounds so vague so it leaves me wondering if it's referring to Morell Corp or Carrington Atlantic, and I'm going to assume it's Carrington Atlantic. If it's the latter, it would make more sense that Fallon would be conflicted especially if she found out about the environmental scandal that Carrington Atlantic's been trying to cover up.

I really hope that she decides to make the right choice and help Michael's family despite of him having constantly rejected her again and again since the infamous wedding. If she decides to punish Michael for his rejection of her by turning her back on his family at their hour of need, especially since his parents have been nice to her at the Thanksgiving church event, then there's really no hope for Michael and Fallon and that's just going to confirm to Michael that Fallon really cares for no one but herself, not even the people she claims to love.

And maybe at that point they should reunite Jeff & Fallon because that would mean that Fallon is really no better than Blake and she's probably just as evil as Jeff. And I'd really want Liam to get the hell away from Fallon as far away as possible because she'll end up destroying him too just like the Carringtons have practically ruined the Culhanes' lives even after all of the years that Michael's devoted to them.

Honestly part of me is kind of expecting Michael to start thinking about getting revenge on the Carringtons for hurting his family and maybe he's the one that starts that fire on the season finale with the intent to trap everyone inside and basically let them burn to death.

Speaking of which, if Michael really is sticking around for the second season, why not just get him another new permanent love interest? Maybe bring back Kori while we're at it. Or maybe bring Monica back. I kind of got the feeling on her last episode that she might have possibly developed feelings for Michael.
 

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Kirby lives! :) ----in Australia. :( Poor Anders.

Better brush up that LinkedIn page, Cristal.

Alexis sure can work those Colby kids, can't she? In 2007 and in 2018!!

Also, Alexis's pre-exile wardrobe was actually rather fabulous. Certainly more classy.

...and those last thirty seconds tosses the whole card game in the air!
 

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So I guess Blake has essentially destroyed any chance of Michael & Fallon ever getting back together. He's never going to speak to her again, is he? Well, I guess he could always go back to Monica. I wasn't expecting her to come back. And if Liam is coming back permanently then I guess he and Fallon can always get back together too, once Fallon gets over her initial feelings of anger, hurt & betrayal.

I really, really hate Blake right now. And I hate Alexis too. She needs to pay - for turning both Michael and Cristal against the Carringtons. This really sucks. I hope the both of them eventually find out the real truth and maybe they can forgive Fallon.

And I was really surprised that Steven actually found Adam. So I guess now we know that Liam really isn't Adam after all. So if Liam is coming back for the season finale, then why? To get back together with Fallon permanently? To finish out his backstory? Maybe John Miller & Valerie might actually be related to Liam. I honestly don't know.

And wow... Anders was married and has a daughter named Kirby? Colored me surprised but disappointed. I feel like Anders is way too old to be a dad to a 20-something year old woman. Would've been so much better if she was his niece or granddaughter.

And what in the hell... Jeff is Blake's biological son? Oh my God... Fallon had sex with her own half-brother? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! I can't believe the CW did that. Oh my God they are going to get so much backlash....

And why does Fallon look so plain as a teenager in those flashbacks? She doesn't look like anything I would've imagined her to look like.

And did anyone else get an inkling that Alexis was intending on seducing Jeff?

This is so messed up on so many levels....
 

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I think Jeff's probably Blake's half-brother for sure. Tom was the one that had an affair with Mrs. Colby and everyone assumed that Monica was going to turn out to be the illegitimate child. Still, that doesn't negate the fact that Fallon & Jeff basically committed incest! Ugh!
 

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OG JEFF and Fallon were second cousins, t

Alexis, and Francesca were cosuins, as their mothers were sisters.
 

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That's why I think Alexis is lying to Jeff. I don't think they would allow incest to be permanently etched into the series canon. My money's still on Monica to be the half-Carrington (thus Alexis bringing her back into the mix). Telling him he's Tom's son (thus Fallon's uncle) would certainly re-direct the attention away from Monica. Alexis could offer to help Jeff "claim what's his"---for a small percentage, of course.

And I really don't believe this guy claiming to be Adam--again, a set-up by Alexis to get Steven to postpone the wedding (and give her time to drive a wedge between Steven and Sammy Jo).

At least we got some bearing on what happened to Mrs. Colby--she isn't dead, nor is she institutionalized (which for some reason was my hunch). She's just living in New York, not wanting anything to do with any of them, I guess. I hope she is fabulous and wears imposing hats.

From the sound of Kirby's voice on the phone, I have no idea what her age is. Just because Sammy Jo didn't know about Anders former marriage and resulting child doesn't mean the Carringtons don't know about it (or know her). He could very well have been married while working at the mansion, or it may have all occurred before he started working there--Kirby could be anywhere from toddler to middle-aged for all we know. They're likely to make her mid-20s simply because that seems to be the target demo on this show. I'd like it if they were to do something unexpected, though. They'll have all spring/summer to figure out what they want to do, I guess.
 

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OKAY. If those last 30 seconds mean what I think they mean then EWW EWWWWW EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Interesting that they made Kirby live in Australia. Just furthers my belief that some characters will end up being merged a la Wentworth.
 
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Oh my God... Fallon had sex with her own half-brother? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! I can't believe the CW did that. Oh my God they are going to get so much backlash....

I'm not sure why. This kind of story isn't groundbreaking. Dallas did it back in 1978 when Ray Krebbs was having relations with his niece in the hay loft. Don't recall the viewing audience going bananas back then...:giggle:
 

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I'm not sure why. This kind of story isn't groundbreaking. Dallas did it back in 1978 when Ray Krebbs was having relations with his niece in the hay loft. Don't recall the viewing audience going bananas back then...:giggle:

True, but Dallas just ended up ignoring it instead. Plus, the Ewings were kind of redneck. I can't see Fallon pretending that she's ok having potentially been screwing her half-brother/uncle.

Though I guess the original show did love its incest too...
 
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Though the show should not have gone passed episode 13, the last several episodes, even the few before Alexis showed up and once Jeff stopped being a wussy, it's been getting so much better. Ratings are awful and 22 should really be the cut off. But the show should have started off this way. The first 14 or so episodes were too much of Jeff being a wuss.

Claudia's back next week?!


I think she's gonna cause the fire in the season finale.
 

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I don't know... I think Michael might be the one to cause the fire. I mean, he hates the Carringtons now. As far as he's concerned, they've taken everything away from him and he also believes that he can never trust Fallon ever again. Maybe he might start descending deeper into darkness and he might come to believe that the only way he can get Fallon out of his life for good is if she dies. I mean losing a loved one can make you nuts.

I think in season 2 if Monica keeps on making more appearances she and Michael will get back together. If not then maybe when Kirby shows up she and Michael will actually get together. And if Liam doesn't end up dying in the fire himself, (for some reason I have a funny feeling that may end up being the case), then he might be able to successfully reconcile with Fallon. Of course that depends on whether or not he has other copies of that mysterious manuscript... Besides, a growing number of fans seem to like them together for some reason so it's a win-win for most people. He's the only other guy that could possibly be with Fallon at this point that doesn't completely hate her or isn't possibly related to her.

So I'm also curious as to why Fallon's visiting Claudia in the sanitarium. Maybe she's found out that her illness might've been caused by the chemicals that the CA power plant was producing. I guess we'll know whether or not Claudia still is pregnant or not.

So... is Cristal going to get divorced from Blake now? I guess now possibly in the second season she's probably going to start going against the Carringtons along with Michael. Maybe Alexis might start to attempt to move in on Blake and get him to reconcile with her. It really sucks that now Cristal and Fallon are now right back where they started at the beginning of the series. Maybe the two women are probably going to hate each other for the rest of the series' run unless someone finds out that Alexis was the one that did the leak and basically orchestrated everything. I don't know how Fallon is going to prove that she wasn't the one that conspired with Blake to oust Cristal. I mean, why would she abandon a company she built from the ground up just to go back to working for her father? That makes no sense. And it doesn't seem like she even cares about being COO anymore so why now?
 

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Another good episode I think. The show has really started to improve these last few episodes since Alexis showed up. It was very flashback heavy though and I wasn't too sure about the casting of young Fallon and Steven but I guess that doesn't matter all that much. I really liked the look of Alexis in the flashbacks, it was much more in keeping with how I thought Alexis would and should look. I guess this version of Alexis is like original Alexis' semi-trashy 'late 70s look from season two. Halter tops and disco pants. I'm sure once Nicollette's Alexis comes into her money and gets her penthouse or mansion set to live in that then she will look a whole lot more fabulous. Nicollette's half wig in this episode was also giving me Joanie's season two vibes, only in blonde not black of course.

It all does feel much more soapy and the stories more connected and interwoven. I was kinda bummed out that this guy claiming to be Adam didn't say the classic, "I am Adam Carrington..." line, but then maybe it's not even Adam. I'm also not that enthusiastic about the possibility of another Kirby, and this one sounded even younger than the original. I guess we will see how that goes next season. If Jeff is a Carrington maybe Monica is too? Is their mother Tom Carrington's sister or mistress? It's all so interesting and ripe with possibility.

I have to say that after @Gabriel Maxwell posted pics of the sets in another thread I have really been paying attention to them and they are so pretty. The set designers have done a great job with the Carrington mansion set. It's really, really gorgeous. I cant wait to see what creation they come up with for Alexis' new abode. Also Alexis didn't seem quite so trashy and comedic this time around. Nicollette seemed to be playing her a bit more serious and sounded much more how I thought she was going to sound. It was much more classy, I don't know if the back story and flashbacks helped with that or what but it was better I think. The living in a trailer thing and the loud trashy clothes and the growing up on a farm thing didn't sit well at all with me. This was much better. I'm fine with her coming from less than humble beginnings but I want to know that Alexis was fabulous before her banishment. This episode convinced me of that.
I'm really beginning to enjoy the show now and look forward to another season.
 

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Actually, if Liam was somehow going to be revealed as Adam now then Fallon will probably make a psychiatrist very rich.
 

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What if Thomas wasn't having an affair with Jeff's mother but it was actually a secret relationship that he would like to pass off as an affair? I think this might be the introduction of Dominique.

Jeff's mother isn't in the picture anymore and Alexis seemed to have known something when she brought her up to Jeff. Maybe Jeff's mother is just another woman separated from her children and forced into exile by Blake. Blake is obviously threatened by the younger Colby's but his actions show that he's even more threatened by the older Colby's. Jeff's mother being Dominique is making a lot of sense to me but I do have limited knowledge of the original Dynasty. My theory is that the imprisonment of Cecil (who honestly hasn't shown to be that big of a threat) was to punish the real threat, Dominique, and force her into exile if she wanted the rest of her family to remain fairly untouched.

If they're going to introduce black Carringtons, surely, they would not forget about Dominique. Her introduction would also add another older character that can interact with Blake and Alexis.
 

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If they're going to introduce black Carringtons, surely, they would not forget about Dominique. Her introduction would also add another older character that can interact with Blake and Alexis.

The reason why people thought Monica was the off-spring of Thomas Carrington was because she was referenced to as Monique originally, making her a hybrid of Monica / Dominique. Dominique was Blake's half-sister via Thomas, so it'd still be icky if she turns out to be Jeff's mother, but at least it puts them further apart in family relations.
 
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