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[Ome]

I am watching the finale tonight so I won't look at your spoiler till after

That spoiler isn't from the season finale, I just can't remember which episode in season three that it was.

Just finished season 3, and wow, that was one hell of a season finale.

I just want to say this about that ending.

Spoiler

Brienne of Tarth Helen Pierce - I did not see that coming and I'm going to miss her, she was pretty cool despite how easy she found it to kill people.

That's how a season finale should be done

 

[Willie Oleson]

Well, that was season 1 of the Byrde saga.
Episode 8, the flashback episode, felt like a completely different show and it made me think what if…

It's all beautifully filmed, good dialogue (no "eh...yeah...like...you know"), great ideas - someone had to come up with these business ideas - and it was never boring.
It's not always very original - Darlene's line "he was being disrespectful" (for calling her a redneck) reminded me too much of Breaking Bad's "I ain't no skank" and there were other things that seemed a bit dusted off, but I'm sure there's going to be plenty of classic Ozark quotes.
"If there's one thing Mexico's full of, it's Mexicans".

Marty Byrde, such an irritating name. And they out-villain all those psychos just by being there and by being incredibly lucky in their incredibly unlucky situation.
Roll on season 2!

 

[Richard Channing]

That spoiler isn't from the season finale, I just can't remember which episode in season three that it was.

Yeah that was one twist I did not see coming. Each to their own I guess!

I just want to say this about that ending.

Spoiler

Brienne of Tarth Helen Pierce - I did not see that coming and I'm going to miss her, she was pretty cool despite how easy she found it to kill people.

Spoiler: SPOILER

Oh you totally read my mind! Briene of Tarth!! I had been calling her exactly that in my head too, She was an awesome character and I will miss her too. It was a shocker but I also hadn't ruled it out that she might die in the season finale. I remembered her asking that hitman guy a few episodes back if he'd warn her if ever she was next, a little foreshadowing there. Also at least one person always gets shot in the season finales. But it's a show that's not afraid to kill off quite major characters and thankfully they have always brought in great new ones too. Saying that I did think what seemed like an impending battle between her and the Byrdes would have been great. But anyway, she went out with a bang in more ways than one. Looks like Jonah is going to go rogue next season because of what she told him and also I don't know what the ramifications will be of that confession she gave the FBI.

 

[Richard Channing]

Well, that was season 1 of the Byrde saga.

Wow you made your way through that pretty fast!

It's not always very original - Darlene's line "he was being disrespectful" (for calling her a redneck) reminded me too much of Breaking Bad's "I ain't no skank" and there were other things that seemed a bit dusted off, but I'm sure there's going to be plenty of classic Ozark quotes

Oh it certainly owes a lot to Breaking Bad, and that's not necessarily a bad thing. But it's also quite original in other ways.

Roll on season 2!

It just keeps getting better so I'm sure you'll enjoy season 2.

 

[Willie Oleson]

The lovely Wendy Byrde has a very unpleasant, overbearing voice when she's angry so I'd love to see a showdown between her and Darlene!

Is it just me or does daughter Charlotte look like a Manson girl?

And was the pastor right? Is Marty Byrde, unbeknownst to himself, really the devil? Speaking of the pastor, wow, that was a gasp inducing "baptism"!

 

[Richard Channing]

Speaking of the pastor, wow, that was a gasp inducing "baptism"!

Oh my God, that scene...It's rare that anything on TV would upset me as much as that did. It was just shocking and yes, gasp inducing.

 

[Richard Channing]

Apparently season 4 will be 14 episodes split into two, but no word yet on when they will air.

 

[Ome]

but no word yet on when they will air.

Do you know if they have started filming, or if they were in the middle of filming and then it was suspended like so many other shows right now?

 

[Richard Channing]

Do you know if they have started filming, or if they were in the middle of filming and then it was suspended like so many other shows right now?

I don't know, but I do know there was a year and half wait between season 2 and 3 so we might be waiting a while.

 

[Willie Oleson]

Apparently season 4 will be 14 episodes split into two

How is that not season 4 and 5?

 

[Willie Oleson]

I didn't enjoy the first two episodes of season 2 because it felt as if they had reached some level of stability, and I prefer the Byrdes with panic in their eyes.
The Kansas mafia (sure!) seemed like yet another villainous entity to shake things up and therefore a reason to continue.
But then in episode 3 it picks up the pace and - everything happens!

It's not as funny as the previous season, and Marty looks like a wind-up puppet who just keeps going and going, but I miss the sweat.
The Byrde kids are an improvement in season 2, I think.
I had also considered the idea that Buddy was the cartel, so all this time they had been living with the Big Boss. I guess we're getting used to outrageous plot twists, eh?

I really like Helen!

More to watch tonight!

 

[Richard Channing]

I prefer the Byrdes with panic in their eyes.

Don't worry, they'll have plenty to panic about as the season goes on.

The Byrde kids are an improvement in season 2, I think.

I quite enjoy the kids, especially Jonah.

I really like Helen!

Me too. She's a great character.

 

[Willie Oleson]

Don't worry, they'll have plenty to panic about as the season goes on

Episode 7 and 8 were great, and when Marty had to shoot Mason to save Wendy that was the first time I truly felt sorry for him.
But even apart from that it's obvious to me that he struggles to be the fixer and the motivator, and it looks like Wendy is becoming the more resourceful and pragmatic one - which, from a family point of view is actually a good thing because marriage is teamwork.
They have to do whatever it takes to survive.
But it also makes me wonder if the means always justify the end. They leave a trail of death and disaster wherever they go and maybe agent Petty had a point when he suggested that at least their children deserved a second chance. After all it wasn't their decision to get involved with the Cartel.
Not that I trust Petty, and in fact Marty had given them the opportunity to start afresh, but OZARK needs some kind of wholesomeness (genuine or not) to balance things out.

Either way, it's fun and extremely entertaining. Even those dastardly Snells no longer see eye to eye, and like you said it also becomes a bit more soapy.

 

[Ome]

The Byrde kids are an improvement in season 2, I think.

I think this is the only series where I actually enjoyed the 'kids' as characters. So many shows get it wrong and create something just to add to the drama and that doesn't always work, but here I found it did and both kids have some great things going on.

Not that I trust Petty

I kept getting a Twin Peaks' vibe from this show, and Petty was always Cooper which frustrated me.

The problem is the more they make television, the more we watch, the higher the chances are that we see similarities in the newer shows.

I really like Helen!

I was shocked at losing Camino because I thought he was the big bad and then they threw me Helen and I was more than satisfied, she's great.

 

[Willie Oleson]

It's nice to see "Oscar" from The Affair again.

And I hope they keep baby Zeke, he looks so funny and adorable.

Oh...wait a minute. Darlene!

 

[Willie Oleson]

And that was season 2!
I wonder if Wyatt is coming back.

 

[Ome]

I wonder if Wyatt is coming back.

.................................................

 

[Willie Oleson]

Episode 3.1 was amazing, nice detail about Wendy's past as a prank burglar.
And there's THE conflict: Marty vs. Wendy. Byrde. Such irritating names.
Marty wants to look for safety somewhere else and Wendy wants to build a fortress. But his escape plan only failed because she sabotaged it, and if she hadn't done that then they wouldn't have to consider other options.
They both agreed to get involved with Navarro "Tiles" in the first place, but she's always been a power-hungry political animal and that's why I think she's worse than Marty.
You could say that it all started with the car accident (….we saw what happened, but I wonder if it will be explained with a shocking plot twist explanation).
I love angry Wendy, I love it when she does that fishwife voice.

I thought he was Bud Bundy, but he's not!

But wait! He's the brother of another family sitcom sister, Justine Bateman. I just knew it had to be something like that.

"Don't kick him. boys!" Haha.

 

[Richard Channing]

And there's THE conflict: Marty vs. Wendy.

I didn't really see this coming and things sure do get interesting with the two pitted against each other. Cause they are both so smart and persuasive when it comes to getting their way.

I think she's worse than Marty.

I agree. I wouldn't go as far as to say that she's become the villain of the show, but she's showing us sides of herself that we haven't seen before and she can be pretty scary when she wants to be. And despite Marty's many failings, he seems to have a least a little bit more of a moral compass than she does. He has so far drawn the line at having someone killed, Wendy has crossed it.

 

[Willie Oleson]

So what did you think of season 2? I liked it, but it I think it was more plot-driven and the many deaths started to feel a bit random.
It was only after Petty had died that I realized why he was so hell-bent to bring down the Navarro cartel.

I'm glad they gave Frank Cosgrove a son, it makes him more vulnerable. (and could there be something blooming between Junior and Ruth? Yeah, I know how this works)