A or B?

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  • A. 10 years later . . .

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  • B. Another dream . . .

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In a way the following are 2 fan fictions, but taking the information from my polls I felt like 2 directions were coming out (regarding a continuation, in might address a reboot later as there was more interest in such than I expected):

A. smaller main cast, made up key Ewing figures ( other characters could be included in plots as they develop), continuation from TNT and a return to Ewing Oil

B. larger and more diverse cast ( other characters could be included in plots as they develop), erasing of TNT and a new company, Ewing Industries (of which Ewing Oil is a part).

Both are just the begging parts before the credits (with some credit notes). What I’m hoping for is 1) a vote For which fits more what you think works and 2) a discussion of the particulars, especially where the one you voted for isn’t exactly what you’re thinking.

Like with the questions, I’m just trying to get at ideas of what people think regarding most importantly to me the original. Those here I see as the base of the base of fans and anything we see going forward I’m sure would be working to add a new audience to this base. And of course this is all hypothetical.
 

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A. 10 years later . . .


The Braddock Hills Country Club:

Inside Pamela, dressed all in black greets Sue Ellen in a room full of mourners. The two women embrace. “I’m so glad you made it. How was your flight from London?” Pamela asks.

“Of course I came. I cared very deeply for your father. How are you holding up, dear?”

“I’m doing fine. He’s at peace.”

“Finally. It’s so scary to think we can grow old and loose our sense of reality.”

“Ironic that it was JR Ewing that got him into Mexico to set him up. No one would have been able to get at him with his money in this county.”

“I’m just glad you got him out of that awful prison.”

“John Ross did that, with Carlos DelSol.” Noticing the look on Sue Ellen’s face Pamela says, “I’m sorry.”

“No it’s fine.”

“I still can’t believe Carlos DelSol made loans for you and Bobby only to set you up for JR’s plan.”

“It was a long time ago. And I should have known better. I did know better. Getting in the middle of a Ewing fight never ends well for anyone.”

“Chris and John Ross get along remarkably well.”

“So I hear. I just stay out of it all. I love my son and my grandson and it’s not worth getting involved in any of the fighting. How are you getting along with the two of them?”

“Since the divorce, pretty good actually. Well with John Ross. Chris is another story.”

“Why’s that?”

“Chris doesn’t like the fact that my father owns twenty percent of Ewing Oil.”

“No. Ewing’s don’t like anyone involved with their business but Ewing’s. And then they fight each other.”

“This is true.” Nodding across the room Pamela says, “I see John Ross and Chris are here.”

“Is that Marielle DelSol?”

“Well Ewing, but yes. Chris’s wife.”

“Oh JR would be so pleased to see that.”

“You’re not kidding. Apparently JR’s plan included John Ross marrying Marta and Chris marrying her younger sister, Marielle.”

“I’d like to say I’m surprised, but I’m not. John Ross isn’t seeing Marta, is he?”

“Not that I’m aware. He pretty much just looks after Jay and takes care of the ranch. Did you know when Bobby moved to California he give his half of South Fork to Chris?”

“No I didn’t. Is Bobby coming, do you know?”

“He’s suppose to be. Aunt Pam’s not coming with him.”

“No she wouldn’t. Do you know why Cliff kept her in hiding?”

Pamela shakes her head. “Bobby might. I mean at first the car accident. Then two bouts of cancer. She’s been through a lot. So much we didn’t know.”

“Like JR had married Katherine Wentworth and had a daughter. We can’t even be sure Katherine Wentworth is really dead. No ones seen a body or even a grave. Have you ever meet her daughter?”

“John Ross’s sister? No I haven’t, yet my shares in the company were taken and given to her. She never showed up to court in person once.”

“Im sure that stirred up some bad feelings between you and John Ross. I better let you go. It was very nice seeing you Pamela.”

“Don’t be a stranger in Dallas.”

“I’ll try not.”

The two kiss cheeks.







Across the room John Ross and Chris run into Judith. “Senator Brown,” John Ross says and the two hug and kiss like long lost relatives.

“Can’t believe it’s an end of an era,” she says. “How have you been John Ross?”

“Couldn’t be better. Up to thirty-five thousand head of cattle.”

“That’s total, not just South Fork, right?”

John Ross laughs, “Yeah, all the property of the South Fork Cattle Company across three states.”

“You boys are doing a fine job with my investment. I couldn’t be more please.”

Chris says, “And we couldn’t be more pleased in our investment in you.”

Judith smirks and admonishingly wags her finger, walking away.

John Ross says to Chris, “Not a word. Judith owns ten percent of Ewing Oil and it’s going to stay that way.”

“Her I’m not concerned about. It’s Pamela getting her father’s share. You know she’s got to go.”

“Make her a fair offer and leave it at that.”

Lucy walks up and asks, “Did I miss anything?”

“Not yet,” John Ross answers.







Sue Ellen approaches Bobby. “Glad you made it. No Pam?”

“Not even for Cliff’s funeral is she gonna return to Texas.”

“How’s she doing?”

“Not so well. We were visiting Cliff in Mexico weekly. And he just got worse and worse. He thought John Ross was his son. The last time he begged Pam to understand, that’s why the babies had to die because John Ross and Pamela are brother and sister. It just broke her heart to see him like that.”

“Is Chris still going out to California to visit her?”

“Once a month.”

“So they’re better?”

“Yes. If anyone understands what it takes to fight to get your life back from an accident it’s Chris.”

“I never thought he would. And the two of you?”

“Civil. I’m just glad he and John Ross get along so well.”

“Well with the two of us and the girls out of the picture, all they’ve got is each other.”

“I’m waiting. John Ross ended up with thirty percent of Ewing Oil. Through his sister’s trust he controls her twenty percent and Judith put hers in a blind trust which she turned over to John Ross. How long until that situation leads them to all out war?”

“Well, John Ross told me he leaves the day to day running of the company to Chris. He’s the non-executive Chairman and that’s it.”

“Maybe the two have really figured out a way to get along.”

“I’m worried about Pamela,” Sue Ellen says.

“Why?”

“Now that she’s got Cliff’s share, they’re gonna want her out. And you and I know the lengths they’ll go to, to get someone out of their way.”

“Well I’m done with it all. Pam and I are very happy in California.”

“Oh yes. Running West Fork with Gary. How is Gary? Pam and Val getting along?”

“Great. Great. It’s nice. It really is. We wish we had some grandchildren, but. Speaking of which, how is Jay?”

“Oh he’s doing well. He really is. Very smart little boy. He asked about his mom the other day.”

“What’d you say?”

“Just that she was friends with some bad people who did some bad things and that’s why you’ve got to be careful who you hang around.”

“Do you think John Ross set Elena up? I mean one minute Chris is fighting for his life. The next Trevino’s being arrested. And then Elena. Then we hear her baby is John Ross’s.”

“I don’t know. I’d like to say no.”

“There was that Arab prince everyone thought Pamela had the affair with. John Ross sent him home with evidence of being gay and they put him to death.”

“Oh I know he’s capable of it. He saw to it Harris Ryland went to prison, even though he was cooperating with the American and Mexican governments.”

Bobby shakes his head. “Ewing Oil’s Ewing Enterprises owns Branch Water, a paramilitary group John Ross set up with Ryland’s CIA contacts. He’s more than capable of just about anything. Ewing Enterprises owns Barnes Media, Lone Star Casinos, CyberByte, CMB, the old Cattleman’s bank.”

“Wasn’t that part of JR’s masterpiece?”

“Ewing Oil also owns Ewing Alternative, Ewing Construction, Wentworth Tool and Die, took West Star, with all its refineries and gas stations, private. Ryland Logistics.”

“He didn’t cut Chris out even though Chris laid in that hospital for months, and a few years more just trying to regain his life.”

“And the Ewing Network. Politicians all over this country bought and paid for, think tanks, community organizations. John Ross is more than capable of just about anything.”

“I get it. You don’t like him.”

“It’s more than that. I don’t trust him. He’s lead Chris by the noise ever since he got out of the hospital.”

“You know Chris is a big boy, capable making his own decisions. He hasn’t exactly objected to any of John Ross’s tactics. To be fair, no ones leading him by the nose. From what I hear Chris has earned himself quite the reputation, and we both know, despite yours, you were every bit as capable as any Ewing to justify doing what you want.”







Marielle hugs Pamela. “I’m so sorry for your loss.”

“Thank you. And thank you for coming.”

“Of course.”

Lucy’s next in line and hugs Pamela. “I’m so sorry.”

“Thank you. I heard you’re living at South Fork now.”

“I am. At least when I’m here. I bought the cottage from the boys. Who knows how long I’ll stay.”

“All of Dallas is talking about the potential benefit for Texas from you bringing back the Ewing Farlow Foundation from New York and with Marielle heading up the DelSol Foundation.”

“This is where the foundation belongs. And, I’m taking a much more active role.”

“We’ll have to talk. My father set up the Rebecca Wentworth Foundation after his mother died and later the Barnes Foundation.”

“Yes let’s talk. I’ll have my assistant set up an appointment with you. It would be good for our families to cooperate on projects.” The two share a hug and kiss cheeks.

John Ross is next. He hugs her, long and tight. “How are you holding up?”

“You tell me?”

“What?”

“It’s Preston Hollow, not South Fork. The house isn’t that far from the road. And, the neighborhood watch told me it was your car parked on the street.”

“My car? What are you talking about?”

“You could have come in?”

“You had all your father’s people there and . . .”

“Vultures and thieves. After they left.”

“I didn’t want to intrude.”

“We’ve always done this haven’t we. Neither believing the other one cares.”

“I do care about you. Is there anything you need? You know you can always stay at South Fork, if you just want to get away. Jay would love it.”

“And you?”

“You know I’d like it too.”

“And that’s the other thing we do so well.”

“Pamela.”

“It’s OK John Ross. He’s at peace now. He told me how often you visited him. Every time I came down someone would say, oh you just missed your brother.”

“My father would be rolling in his grave. It’s just . . . He was an innocent man. At least of the crime he was charged with . . . And when I read my father’s letter about what was wrong with him . . .”

“Do you still get those letters?”

“I do. Not as often, but they still they show up. If I hadn’t seen his body, I’d swear he was still alive.”

“And you finished everything he told you to do?”

“Not everything.”

“Well, thank you. Thank you for helping with my dad.”

“Of course.”

She kisses his cheek and he reluctantly moves on.

Chris steps up next. They hug. He whispers, “This is where I say I’m sorry for your loss.”

The hug is short and tense. Pamela says, “I know there was no love loss between you and my father.”

“He tried to take the Ewing Process from me. He killed my children. He set Elena up with some false story of JR cheating her father.”

“Oh even Bobby believed that was true. And it would have been, if JR had the opportunity.”

“Point is it drove her into the arms of Nicholas Trevino.”

“Well, he was’t in his right mind. He hadn’t been in a long time.”

“Well it’s over now.”

“I hope it is.”

“Take care of yourself, Pamela.”

“You too.”






Late at night John Ross sits outside an old mansion on a winding street in the Preston Hollow neighborhood of Dallas. From his car he stares at a corner bedroom window, the only window on the house lit. He sees a figure and then another.





Inside the house Pamela hugs Frank. “Ali. I was wondering when I’d see you.”

“Antonio,” he corrects her and they hug.

“I can’t keep up. Every time you die you get a new name.”

“How are you doing?”

“Not so good. But I’ll be fine. You’re always a phone call away. Like my big brother or guardian angel.”

“I know Cliff was confused about the circumstances of how we meet, but regardless we did, and he changed the fortunes of my family. He’ll always be like a father to me, more than my real father.”

“That’s not your father’s fault. He was killed.”

“When I was a kid. For something stupid, something which meant more than our family. No. Cliff Barnes meant more to me and so do you, sister.” They hug.

They sit down. Pamela smiles. “Oh it’s so good to see you. I don’t think I’d get through this night alone. In the morning we’ll go over the estate. I destroyed the new will he made recently. It wasn’t any good anyway.”

“What’d he do?”

“He left everything to John Ross.”

“Did he even remember you?”

“No. He thought I was his secretary at one point. Anyway, the original will leaves you, well the first you his foreign accounts. And there are some personal items I want you to have.”

“And you have his Ewing Industries shares?”

“That I do. Chris has made offers to buy them for years. All ridiculously low. He’s not done. I’m sure I’ll get one more offer, then he’ll set something in motion to force me.”

“It won’t turn out well for him if he does.”

“I’m counting on it. Then John Ross can force him out and I’ll take over Ewing Industries.”

“How so?”

“John Ross has thirty percent. JR set him up as the trustee of his sisters trust, which holds twenty percent and he’s the trustee of Judith Ryland’s blind trust which holds ten percent. He controls the company. He didn’t complete JR’s directive, but he didn’t give up control either.“







Opening Credits:

Selena Gomez as Marielle nee DelSol Ewing - Carlos’s youngest daughter and Chris wife, head of the DelSol Foundation

Julie Gonzalo as Pamela Rebecca Barnes (former Ewing) - John Ross and Chris’s x-wife, partner with Smithfield, Beam and Barns, a Dallas legal firm.

Josh Henderson as John Ross Ewing III - patriarch of the family, Chairman non-executive of Ewing Industries, 1/2 owner of South Fork the house, works from home, semi retired, single father raising his 10 year old son, Jay (Elena’s son born in 2012, condensing 3 seasons into 1 year)

Jesse Metecalfe as Christopher Ewing - President and CEO of Ewing Industries, a brilliant and ruthless bastard who runs the company day to day, 1/2 owner of South Fork the house

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Charlene Tilton as Lucy Ewing - eccentric oldest cousin (based on the Auntie Mame character), head of the Ewing Farlow Foundation, grandmother figure to Jay, always been around, known for her jet-setting lifestyle
 

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or B. Another dream . . .


John Ross sits up in bed out of breath, sweating, shaken from a dream. Pamela leans over, “John Ross are you OK?”

“Yeah. Yeah. I just had a horrible dream. My dad hadn’t died, he’d been back in the home and then . . . It was just horrible. I was so alone.”

She holds him. “No sweetheart. You’re not alone. You’re never alone.”

He holds her back, crying into her shoulder.

She strokes his hair. “It was just a bad dream. That’s all.”

“I dreamed about the twins.“

“You went through that?”

“It was worst. They were Chris’s.”

“Chris’s. What?”

“You were married to him. You didn’t love me. My mother went back to drinking. My father killed him self.”

“Oh my God. That’s awful.”

“It was. Your father was insane.”

“Oh John Ross. It’s OK. I’m here. It’s over now.”

“And my fathers really gone?”

“He is. I do know what you’re going through.”

“I know you do.” He hugs her.






John Ross and Pamela walk down stairs to see Sue Ellen, as well as ranch hands taking her luggage out the front door. “Momma, are you going some place?”

“Yes. I’m headed back to London. It’s OK. you’ve got your wife and kids. I’ll be fine. This is your house. You don’t need be to be tripping over me s d everybody else in the family.”

Pamela says, “But we want you to stay.”

“I can’t. Too many memories here. But I did it.” Sue Ellen tears up. “I took care of him. For a short while there was no fighting and no doubt. I proved to him I loved him. It’s all your father ever needed and I did that for him.”

“You did momma.”

“I’ll be back. I just can’t. Not now.” She hugs them both and leaves out the front door.





John Ross and Pamela walk out back toward the pool as Bobby and Lucy come up from the cottage. Bobby says, “I’m off.”

“Are you sure Uncle Bobby. You know you’re always welcome.”

“I know. But you need time for things to return to normal for you around here. And normal’s your family. This house needs that, a family to fill it up. Not a bunch of extended Ewing’s to get in your way.”

“That’s not true. I need you here, to help me run the ranch.”

“You’ve do a fine job without me. Momma would be so pleased.”

“We you took care of things.”

“I just gave you the house.”

“And sold the cattle company to Ewing Industries.”

“For you,” Bobby interjects.

“And gave the land to the foundation. You protected it for ever more.”

“Thank you for saying that, but Gary needs my help. He’s a fine rancher but a terrible businessman.”

“I’m glad the two of you went in on West Fork together.”

“I am too. I’m enjoying myself with his family. Things, well, it’s hard.”

“Christopher does love you.”

“I know he does. Just doesn’t listen to me. Besides, Pam, my Pam, wouldn’t ever move back to Texas. No California’s home now. Right Lucy?”

“Well, actually, if John Ross don’t mind. I was thinking of staying a bit longer.”

“Of course,” Pamela says. “Sue Ellen just left. Why don’t you stay in her room in the house. Terrance would probably be more comfortable in the cottage anyway, I’m thinking.”

“Sounds like a great idea.”

“Good I’ll get your things moved.”



Bobby walks John Ross to a waiting limousine. “Listen John Ross. I don’t know what your father’s will says, but it’s up to you now to keep this family together. Don’t let him pull things apart. You’ve done a great job here, and you and Christopher work well together with the business. I know you’ll figure out a way to make that work.”

“He’s not gonna be happy. I don’t see my father leaving Christopher a share. Do you?”

“No. You’re right. He worked hard for your father. I’m surprised he even remembered he had a son with Cally.”

“So the fighting will begin. Terrence couldn’t make the funeral but makes the will reading. Christopher works his ass off, pulling of every dirty deal JR want and gets nothing and James is a now show to any of it.”

“I know you can keep this family together. I know it. Take care John Ross.”

“Of course.”

“And thank you.”

“For what?”

“Never turning on Chris. No matter what he’s done.”

“He’s like my brother to me.”

They hug and then Bobby gets in the car.








A young twenty something, half Hispanic young man rolls in the hey above one of the barns, naked, with a man in his early forties (Smiling Frank from TNT). The man says, “Jay, we’ve got to stop this. You’ve got to stop coming here and . . .”

“And what? Smiling at you, Ali.”

“Your father’s my best friend. I run this ranch for him. He’d . . .”

“Be happy that I was so happy.”

“Jay, I spent my whole life as a straight man. I can’t keep doing this.”

“Will you stop with the labels.”

“It’s not like you’re in love with me, or even committed to me.”

Jay laughs. “Oh my god. You’re so old fashion.”

“I do care about you Jay, more than you know.”

Jay kisses him, “And I care about you.”








In an office overlooking Dallas a young Hispanic woman in her early twenties says to a fifty something man, “Listen we both know nothing happens in Dallas my daddy doesn’t at least find out about, so better he finds out it was his daughter that got to you than someone else.”

“He’ll hit the ceiling.”

“Yeah, that a Smithfield could be got at, you’re right about that. Listen. All I’m asking is a heads up on my grandfathers will. That’s not so awful.”

“Ellie, I can't. That would be betraying a trust.”

“And whatta you call cheatin' on your wife?” Ellie wrinkles her nose. “And with prostitutes. I don’t care how high paid they are.”








In the living room of South Fork (basically Miss Ellie’s room I’m tacked), the family gathers. Lucy says, “Ryan, this is JR and Cally’s son, Terrance. Terrance. This is Ryan Smithfield. The family lawyer.”

“Nice to meet you Mr. Smithfield.”

“Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming.”

John Ross says, “James isn’t coming.”

“I got word. Your father took that into account. And where’s Chris?”

“Is he suppose to be here?”

“Yes. I told him JR wanted him here. Lucy too.”

John Ross says, “There he is. Chris. Elena. Come in. Daddy wanted you here.”

“I was told,” Chris responds. I see Terrance came out of the wood work.”

John Ross directs his family, “Let’s all sit down. Ryan. Please, begin.”

Ryan faces them with his back to the fireplace. “We all know JR was a complicated man. Much of what he added to this will, he did in the last few months of his battle with cancer, driven by guilt, I’m sure. But no one, should ever doubt his love for his family.

JR set up a trust for Gary’s children, Betsy and Bobby. About two hundred million dollars. John Ross, you’re the trustee. You’re also trustee for a fund he set up for his present and future grandchildren, biological and adopted, include James’s kids. About a billion and a half dollars in a very diversified portfolio. In addition left five hundred million to James Beaumont, also in trust with you.” Everyone looks a bit surprised. “His personal items he leaves them all to you John Ross and asks that you be generous with anybody who wants anything. That just leaves his sole ownership of Ewing Industries, a company he put together with some controversy I know, taking West Star private, forcing Bobby and Sue Ellen to sell Ewing Oil, buying Wentworth Tool and Die. He did do Ruth the help of John Ross and Christopher, so he told me.

Anyway, he leaves his shares in Ewing Industries divided into four equal parts, in trust to John Ross, Terrance.” He hands Lucy a letter. “Lucy. I believe that is an apology letter, which he said was long over do.” He then hands Christopher another letter. “And this is a DNA test. He proved you were in fact his son with Kristen Shepard. He leaves you one forth as well.”

Shock and awe take over the room. Christopher walks out. Ellen’s goes to follow but John Ross runs after him.



In the dinning room John Ross catches up with him. “Are you OK?”

“I don’t care why he did it, just as long as I got my share. I’m puzzled as to Lucy and Terrance.”

“I mean the DNA test.”

Christopher laughs it off. “I did the same thing years ago. I already knew. It doesn’t change anything. Ewing Industries is mine.”

“Ours, brother.”

“You know what I mean.”

“I hope I do.”



In the living room Lucy sits, a bit shaky, reading her letter from JR. Pamela says, “Are you OK.”

“Why?” Lucy cries. “Why?” She hold up the letter. “Roger Larson. He killed him. He killed him.”

“Who’s Roger Lawson?”

“He rapped me. A very long time ago. He said he should have done better by me.” She reads, “Everything I did to your daddy I did to you ten times over. I’ll never be able to forgive myself for hurting you. There a lot of people I hurt that I’d never ask for forgiveness, just you. Please find it in your heart to forgive me and know, I always wished you were my little girl, Jock Ewing’s first grandchild.” Lucy cries. Pamela holds her.




Still in the dinning room, John Ross says, “I’ll talk to Lucy and Terrance. As far as I’m concerned you stay on as President and CEO. I’ll stay on as Chairman. OK?”

“OK. I think that’s a good idea,” Christopher replies. “I want to talk about South Fork’s oil. We’ve got access if we slang drill.”

“I know. I know. You brought it up, but then then daddy got really sick.”

“I want to return to it.”

“The oil rights are held by the foundation grandma set up. You know that. So you’ll need Lucy to agree.”

“I can make the Ewing Family Foundation one of the nation’s largest, if she agrees.”

“So now isn’t the time to plan push out Lucy and Terrance from the business. Wouldn’t you agree?”

“Who says I’m planning any such thing?”

“I know you. You’re planning to oust Terrance first. Then Lucy. Probably me last.”

“Don’t be ridiculous. I’m sweet as pie, brother.”

“Are you staying the night here or going into the city?”

“I think we’ll spend the night.”

“I think that’s a good idea. Just take this one day at a time.”







Opening Credits

Jordana Brewster as Maria “Elena” nee Anderson Ewing - Christopher’s wife (based on Clair from House if Cards), the granddaughter of Punk and Mavis Anderson, President of Ewing Alternative a subsidiary of Ewing Industries

Julie Gonzalo as Pamela Rebecca neeBarnes Ewing - matriarch of the family, socialite, head of the Barnes Foundation

Froy Gutierrez as John “Jay” Ross Ewing IV - the oldest of John Ross and Pamela’s children, working on independent busy projects

Josh Henderson as John Ross Ewing III - patriarch of the family, Chairman of Ewing Industries, owner of South Fork the house, works from home, semi retired

Rocky Lynch as Terrance Ewing - all around nice guy trying to fit into the family as the youngest of JR’s boy’s, going to work for the company

Jesse Metecalfe as Christopher Ewing - middle cousin, Bobby’s son, President and CEO of Ewing Industries, a brilliant ruthless bastard who runs the company day to day

Marcel Ruiz as Willard “Will” Clayton Ewing, the youngest of John Ross and Pamela’s children, brilliant collage student

Anya Taylor-Joy as Eleanor “Ellie” Rebecca Ewing - the middle child of John Ross and Pamela’s children, like her father, manipulates the business from the sidelines, but doesn’t believe in Ewing’s actually working

and

Charlene Tilton as Lucy Ewing - eccentric oldest cousin (based on the Auntie Mame character), Gary’s daughter, head of the Ewing Family Foundation, grandmother figure to the Ewing kids, always been around, known for her jet-setting lifestyle
 

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Is this just a sneaky way to try to get more people to read your fanfiction without having to go to the Writers board?

No. I don’t have any plans beyond what I wrote here. It’s a way to see what interests people. If you read them, I think you’ll see the different ideas from the questions. Again, not that what interests people here necessarily translates into what the executives might be looking for, but it could serve as the foundation for the foundation of an audience.
 
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Out of the two choices, I'd take A. If you want to do a new Dallas continuation I'd leave TNT in. And if I did want to ignore it, I would just ignore it, the same way Dallas TNT ignored the two reunion movies, I wouldn't bother with a dream explanation, just start over.

Of course, as we've discussed before, my real preference at this point would be C., to reboot Dallas completely with new younger version of J.R. and Bobby in the modern era. I think that approach has the best odds for success, and it's far more likely to happen.
 

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Out of the two choices, I'd take A. If you want to do a new Dallas continuation I'd leave TNT in. And if I did want to ignore it, I would just ignore it, the same way Dallas TNT ignored the two reunion movies, I wouldn't bother with a dream explanation, just start over.

Of course, as we've discussed before, my real preference at this point would be C., to reboot Dallas completely with new younger version of J.R. and Bobby in the modern era. I think that approach has the best odds for success, and it's far more likely to happen.

I think that TNT just out right ignoring the movies was wrong, more do then the originals dream season explanation. It just seems wrong to be to tell an audience everything you saw, forget about it. It seems even more wrong when you don’t even bother to tell them. I seem more partial to the continuation from TNT myself.

Not sure I agree a reboot is the best way to go, but it’s an idea. Not sure how those stories would play out in 2020. I’d be interested in your posts if you were to explore such.
 

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I think that TNT just out right ignoring the movies was wrong, more do then the originals dream season explanation. It just seems wrong to be to tell an audience everything you saw, forget about it. It seems even more wrong when you don’t even bother to tell them. I seem more partial to the continuation from TNT myself.

The thing is I do understand why you and many others feel that way, both in regards to TNT ignoring the movies and the original series doing the dream explanation, but I'm willing to overlook things like this in fiction as long as the result is good. So I was fine with the dream season explanation because, in my opinion, it got the original series back track. And when I first head that Dallas TNT was going to ignore the movies, I was disappointed because I liked the status quo that J.R. Returns set-up (War of The Ewings was bad, but there was really nothing in it that needed to be referenced again anyway), but I was willing to give it a shot as long as the stories were good. But, in my opinion, it didn't work (sorry, I just can't accept the idea of J.R. wasting away for 20 years while that malignant little troll Barnes was off running Ewing Oil and getting richer).

But the idea of picking and choosing what points from continuity you want to include is working in other franchises. Look at the Halloween movies, for example. They're started over twice with a full reboot in-between. First you had Halloween 1 & 2, then a separate film, and then the original story continued in 3 more films Halloween 4-6 (ending with a cliffhanger). Then in 1998 they do H20, where they just wiped out Halloween 4-6 and simply picked up 20 years after Halloween 2. Then H20 continued in Halloween Resurrection (which also ended in a cliffhanger) and then they said forget all that and brought in Rob Zombie to do a complete reboot. He did that and a sequel, and then 2 years ago they did a movie which ignores everything after the first Halloween, and made a new film taking place 40 years later. And that one turned out to be the biggest hit in the franchise, so far. With 2 sequels to that one planned.

I also remember how Bryan Singer's Superman Returns film was meant to be a sequel to the first two Christopher Reeve Superman films, ignoring Superman 3 and Superman 4. Although I didn't like that one.

But the point is. with the time passed and the fact that Dallas TNT didn't make that big of a cultural impact I think you could do a new Dallas that just picks up from the original series, with all new actors playing John Ross and Christopher, and whomever else you want to add, and make it work. But it would really need to stand on it's own now, with both Larry and Ken dead, and Patrick and Linda getting up there, you can't just count on the nostalgia factor.

Not sure I agree a reboot is the best way to go, but it’s an idea. Not sure how those stories would play out in 2020. I’d be interested in your posts if you were to explore such.

Well I linked to my old post from an previous thread of yours last year on the topic. That's still my basic idea for how to proceed, although I have had a change regarding my overall plot for season 2.
 

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I feel this thread is more for the Writers Room...
 

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Out of the two choices, I'd take A. If you want to do a new Dallas continuation I'd leave TNT in. And if I did want to ignore it, I would just ignore it, the same way Dallas TNT ignored the two reunion movies, I wouldn't bother with a dream explanation, just start over.
I agree. My preference would be A also, with one minor quibble: It would make more sense for the main company name to be Ewing Enterprises or Ewing Industries. Oil is on the way out and I think Jock would recognise that even if JR might have a hard time with it.
 

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I feel this thread is more for the Writers Room...

I would agree except there’s no follow up. It’s just the opening pieces comparing ideas. I tried to take the ideas and responses of the questions I put forth to get a further discussion going. Not sure the voting part was all that effective.
 

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I agree. My preference would be A also, with one minor quibble: It would make more sense for the main company name to be Ewing Enterprises or Ewing Industries. Oil is on the way out and I think Jock would recognise that even if JR might have a hard time with it.

Thank you. Exactly what I was looking for. So you’re A really but . . . And I would agree. You’ll notice in B I do change the name. I was surprised the support for the name Ewing Oil. I think the key was “Ewing” and Ewing Oil is better off as a subsidiary of a larger company. Really the key should be each generation adds something. So Jock = Ewing Oil. JR = Ewing Industries with Ewing Oil as a subsidiary. John Ross = Ewing Enterprises with a controlling interest in Ewing Industries with Ewing Oil as a subsidiary. Anyway that’s my thinking. I’m not sure if a great story is told and such names are used, anyone would really care. But what we got was a company with no connection to Ewing Oil so maybe that’s what brings up the feelings to protect the original name.
 

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Told ya. He's sneaky.

No I’ve been very upset front about the purpose of the thread. And still there is no follow through for a developed story to either choice. It’s just a way to get at further discussion of where to take the story, if the story were to be a continuation. If anything it might be better placed with the TNT thread, except one of the examples wipes out the TNT story.

Now you could try something about a reboot for which you’ve advocated, maybe some questions and examples. I thought of doing such next but feel free to beat me to the punch.
 

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OK but if the thread does start looking like a story, I'll move it over :)
 

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OK but if the thread does start looking like a story, I'll move it over :)

Fair enough. I don’t plan on add to either story. IF I were to it would only be in the writers room. I am thinking of an option C which is a reboot but that would be another opening not a continuation of either.
 
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