Did Katherine Wentworth have any redeeming qualities?

Toni

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She even had a backstory that covered her sweet childhood!
Who else can say that?​
 

Chris2

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Great point about Priscilla Pointer. She made the character seem more substantial than she was.
 

Kenny Coyote

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Yes, and Katherine was under-written as well -- maybe that was genetic? Morgan Brittany did what she could with the role, and the character popped-up in the series' best era, but she was written like a stock psycho.

Even Lady Jessica was better fleshed-out.
By "under-written" you mean that not much was revealed about a character's past, right? If that is what it means, couldn't you say that about most TV characters? We don't even know the names of Jock's parents, and disregarding Dallas: The Early Years" which wasn't shown until well after Jock was already dead, we didn't know much about how past in general. We didn't even know the real background of the Barnes-Ewing feud - that Digger actually owned a third of Ewing Oil and sold it. Jock didn't steal his share of it, as Digger had claimed. So isn't "under-writing" standard for Dallas in general?

I thought they wrote it that way on purpose because they wanted us to use our imaginations about the past of characters and questions like: "Why did JR turn out to be the way he did"? We don't know if JR was just born the way he was, or if his parents' favoritism with Bobby being Jock's favorite and Gary being Ellie's favorite was the primary reason he turned out to be the kind of man he became. I think it's more fun to have it that way because it's open to interpretation and only limited by one's imagination.

Did the other prime-time soaps like Dynasty and Knot's Landing reveal a more detailed story of their characters' pasts, or did they also under-write their characters?
 
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Snarky's Ghost

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By "under-written" you mean that not much was revealed about a character's past, right? If that is what it means, couldn't you say that about most TV characters? We don't even know the names of Jock's parents, and disregarding Dallas: The Early Years" which wasn't shown until well after Jock was already dead, we didn't know much about how past in general. We didn't even know the real background of the Barnes-Ewing feud - that Digger actually owned a third of Ewing Oil and sold it. Jock didn't steal his share of it, as Digger had claimed. So isn't "under-writing" standard for Dallas in general?

I thought they wrote it that way on purpose because they wanted us to use our imaginations about the past of characters and questions like: "Why did JR turn out to be the way he did"? We don't know if JR was just born the way he was, or if his parents' favoritism with Bobby being Jock's favorite and Gary being Ellie's favorite was the primary reason he turned out to be the kind of man he became. I think it's more fun to have it that way because it's open to interpretation and only limited by one's imagination.

Did the other prime-time soaps like Dynasty and Knot's Landing reveal a more detailed story of their characters' pasts, or did they also under-write their characters?
It's not just names and dates of ancestors provided. DALLAS wasn't usually "underwritten" for its core characters -- the writers provided fairly complex psychological motives for their actions so we usually knew exactly why they were doing what they were doing; we understood their internal logic, even if it was nuts.

But with Katherine -- not quite a core character, admittedly, but one with lots of goals and intentions (usually involving homicide) -- we're told precious little about what makes her tick. Except that she hates Cliff, is jealous of Pam, and wants Bobby... I mean, we can guess as to what's driving her, but they never really tell us.

So Katherine was pretty close to a pantomime villainess, but we didn't tend to notice it so much because the show around her at the time was so very tight, and because Miss Brittany played it with such relish.

KNOTS LANDING gave us a thorough portrait of their characters' psyches, as a rule. DYNASTY pretended to but was really so superficially-written during most of its years that, yes, it was dreadfully under-written and (as JfL once pointed out) simultaneously over-written in that the dialogue was often so florid... empty but florid.

 

TJames03

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Ummmmm......it’s obvious what is driving Katherine, and I agree with her. Her mother tossed her aside out of guilt and handed Cliff HER father’s company and then he (basically) killed her. Pam then completely ignored both those facts and had everything Katherine would have liked to have had and threw them all away. I agree with Katherine 110 percent!!!!!
 

Snarky's Ghost

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Ummmmm......it’s obvious what is driving Katherine, and I agree with her. Her mother tossed her aside out of guilt and handed Cliff HER father’s company and then he (basically) killed her. Pam then completely ignored both those facts and had everything Katherine would have liked to have had and threw them all away. I agree with Katherine 110 percent!!!!!
And you're glad her victims are dead...?
 

TJames03

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Katherine genuinely liked Cliff and Pam in the beginning and still liked Pam even after Rebecca died, but was kissed (and rightly so) that Pam kept giving Cliff chance after chance....
 

juschill

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I think it's safe to say if she did they were few and far between. She loved Rebecca, and of course although it was obsessive, she loved Bobby.

What about other qualities? Or was Katherine just plain ol' mean?

Yes. She was absolutely beautiful!
 

Kenny Coyote

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Yes. She was absolutely beautiful!
Do good looks count as a redeeming quality? I can just see her lawyer defending her in court for shooting Bobby and then trying to poison him while he was in the hospital.

Judge: Miss Wentworth, I find your multiple attempts at trying to kill a man just because he doesn't love you to be abhorrent. I'm sentencing you to 40 years in prison.

Defense attorney: Your honor, you can't! Please consider her redeeming qualities!

Judge: Such as?

Defense attorney: Well, uh.....Look how pretty she is!
 

juschill

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Do good looks count as a redeeming quality? I can just see her lawyer defending her in court for shooting Bobby and then trying to poison him while he was in the hospital.

Judge: Miss Wentworth, I find your multiple attempts at trying to kill a man just because he doesn't love you to be abhorrent. I'm sentencing you to 40 years in prison.

Defense attorney: Your honor, you can't! Please consider her redeeming qualities!

Judge: Such as?

Defense attorney: Well, uh.....Look how pretty she is!
I would have found her not guilty based on her looks alone. I probably would have suggested jailing that idiot Barnes woman instead.
 
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