DYNASTY '69 : Trailer 2

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The brand name is only hurt in the eyes of The Fans,
Odd. I thought that is what really matters here, the fans. I don't care about what production house wishes to tackle a series like Dallas or Dynasty but if low ratings continue to choke a series then someone, somewhere along the chain of command has to scratch their head and ask the important question. "Why aren't people watching?"
 

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The interest in these shows is only going to wane (not increase) as time goes by. The idea that someone else is going to create another DYNASTY, say, 5 or 10 years from now is even more unlikely than it is today.
I agree for both IPs. Will we see another saga about an extended nuclear family like these two? No, because nuclear families are themselves a dinosaur now. Of course both DYNASTY and DALLAS drastically changed the landscape, so that now most all dramas and sitcoms are serialized whereas before no more than a couple were. But for me the family was just backdrop in these soaps. I will leave DALLAS fans to ponder DALLAS possibilities. But whether you take DYNASTY as version 1 (a naive newcomer into a snake pit trying to survive) or version 2 (a scorned ex and exiled mother back for revenge), for me at the core DYNASTY is a strong narrative arc about a female character's journey. REVENGE season 1 came close to that. We may still see another--just don't expect shoulder pads in it.

Patrick Duffy (and I tend to believe he knows what he's talking about) has stated that NuDallas was cancelled too soon,
I think he is as clueless as his on screen avatar. Cidre was ruining it with every single episode. And it was a shame, because unlike Peach DYNASTY, TNT DALLAS had a lot of talent in front of the camera. Just none behind it.

As for the wonderful trailer, I am amazed that no matter how far back you look, Heston looks like a Neanderthal. And darn Michael Parks looks like he should play Miles' real father. Hmm, do I smell a scandal ?
 
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I think he is as clueless as his on screen avatar
I think Patrick is as clueless as he wants to be. He's very intelligent but is prone to spinning things commiserate with what he feels the expectations are. He's dropped hints before that he knew what nuDALLAS' flaws were, pointing out that some fans found it a little less "pure" (ie., everything was thrown in including Carmen's kitchen sink containing all her relatives) than they might have liked.

Linda Gray's ex claimed she ranted over how terrible the scripts were.

Duffy has also conceded that they "lost objectivity" during oldDALLAS' closing seasons about what qualified as a good story, and he also admits that the second reunion movie, WAR OF THE EWINGS (1998), was probably the most reviled entry in DALLAS' history despite he and Larry producing it.

So Patrick's not delusional, he's just very cautious about his commentary in keeping with what the organization he's been recently employed by would probably prefer he say.

But back on topic: DYNASTY69, Whheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
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Will we see another saga about an extended nuclear family like these two? No, because nuclear families are themselves a dinosaur now.
On that basis Downton Abbey should have been an absolute failure, instead it was an international hit. I must be clueless in this regard because at the center of this story was family. The creative types behind TNT Dallas did not understand this. Dallas was, is, always about the Ewing family, first and foremost. When I watch the original series rarely do you see a scene without a Ewing in it. In the TNT version the secondary characters became the main event, to the point I was watching something else.

For a nighttime soap to succeed you need that nuclear family. It's what drives a series. I have to feel connected to them. Share their story. Experience their highs and lows. Without that connection I switch off.
 

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Does anyone know if there were any plans to do a DYNASTY - The Early Years, during or shortly after the show's run?
It probably wouldn't live up to our expectations, especially after watching these fabulous, larger-than-soap trailer versions....

I also noticed that this trailer has a younger Pamela Sue Martin, which makes more sense consider the time frame.:clap:
 

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I also noticed that this trailer has a younger Pamela Sue Martin, which makes more sense consider the time frame.:clap:
Yes, now that you can rent certain movies on YouTube I was able to get some new footage of PSM that previously was not available.

Incidentally, what age would Fallon have been in 1969?
 

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On that basis Downton Abbey should have been an absolute failure, instead it was an international hit. I must be clueless in this regard because at the center of this story was family.
I understand many people of older generations (sadly in my 40s I include myself in that) would like that. But I don't think that is the experience of the world we are watching unfold before our eyes on screen and off.
As for comparing a show set a century ago and making decent numbers (in the US on PBS for instance ) with the international frenzy that was DALLAS and DYNASTY, I think that really is apples and oranges. Of course there will be the occasional show with a family finding some audience--but it won't be a saga keeping whole countries to their TV screens is what I supported.

So Patrick's not delusional, he's just very cautious about his commentary in keeping with what the organization he's been recently employed by would probably prefer he say.
Yeah, maybe that.
Does anyone know if there were any plans to do a DYNASTY - The Early Years, during or shortly after the show's run?
Per wikipedia:
The Shapiros announced on January 12, 2011 that they had written a Dynasty prequel feature film script set in the 1960s, and were shopping it to studios for a possible film franchise.[91] In a September 2011 interview, Dynasty actress Joan Collins chatted about a Dynasty television revival: "I've been in constant contact with Esther Shapiro, who wrote it, and apparently they've written a script."[92]

Now, if Joan Collins was going to be in it set in the 60s, I imagine Richard Shapiro would finally get his wish to have DYNASTY in the sci-fi genre.
 
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Per wikipedia:
The Shapiros announced on January 12, 2011 that they had written a Dynasty prequel feature film script set in the 1960s, and were shopping it to studios for a possible film franchise.[91] In a September 2011 interview, Dynasty actress Joan Collins chatted about a Dynasty television revival: "I've been in constant contact with Esther Shapiro, who wrote it, and apparently they've written a script."[92]

Now, if Joan Collins was going to be in it set in the 60s, I imagine Richard Shapiro would finally get his wish to have DYNASTY in the sci-fi genre.
 

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And since I want to believe Liz (what's her name in this story?) I wonder what other dark secrets Alexis has been hiding. The very idea just makes me drool!
Well on the one hand Liz' character is a scheming bitch who will stop at nothing to get her man so it may well be her attempt at character assassination. After all even though Blake has been an asshole I still think it would take some convincing/manipulation to get him to jump into bed with her and cheat on Alexis. Unless perhaps Blake and her already have some kind of irresistible bond/chemistry.

On the other hand, the fact that she and Alexis were out for dinner together makes me think they already know each other (or possibly even related as Snarky suggested) so maybe she's just being factual and knows for a fact that Alexis whole life is a lie. Alexis certainly seemed threatened by her. Either way these two are just getting started so lets see what transpires.
 
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