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So what did you think of season 2? I liked it, but it I think it was more plot-driven and the many deaths started to feel a bit random.
It was only after Petty had died that I realized why he was so hell-bent to bring down the Navarro cartel.

I loved season 2 but I know what you mean about the deaths. I thought the pacing was good and it was never boring. Pretty much every episode had you on the edge of your seat.

Not sure whether we are still being careful about spoilers or not but just in case: I thought Ruth's father killing Petty seemed a bit contrived and not really a fitting or logical end for the character. The same could be said for them killing off Ruth's father but at least, as you will see, his death will have ramifications in season 3. I don't know if we even get an investigation into Petty's death? Which seems weird. With that being said, I do like how they are not afraid to kill off big characters and season finale's seem to always have at least one major death. It's exciting.

Season 3 has quite a different tone from the get-go with the opening of the casino and and a few big characters that were a big presence before no longer around. But I think it's the best season so far, some great new characters and a good momentum, especially as it draws to a close.
 

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Not sure whether we are still being careful about spoilers or not
How can we discuss Ozark and then not discuss what actually happens? It doesn't bother me if you post details I haven't seen yet, If the post looks spoiler-ish I'll just skim over it and read it at a later time.
I thought Ruth's father killing Petty seemed a bit contrived and not really a fitting or logical end for the character.
It seems to me that the only reason to kill off Petty (such a great character) was to kill off Cade Langmore.
 

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How can we discuss Ozark and then not discuss what actually happens? It doesn't bother me if you post details I haven't seen yet, If the post looks spoiler-ish I'll just skim over it and read it at a later time.
Ok. I'm just thinking about other members who may read the thread, perhaps we could give a warning at the start if we are going to openly discuss all the seasons.

It seems to me that the only reason to kill off Petty (such a great character) was to kill off Cade Langmore.
It really felt like an afterthought that these two should cross paths and that Cade should kill him over something really stupid. If Petty had to be killed off it should have been more momentous and a culmination of ongoing events.
 

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But I think it's the best season so far
I think you're right. It's beautiful, intense, honest, smart and funny - and of course it doesn't hurt that these characters have become Very Familiar Faces in my TV landscape.
The casino is a much stronger foundation than the Blue Cat bar, imho.

Wendy's brother Ben, didn't they mention in season 1 that he was a highschool shooter? Maybe no-one died, or maybe I misinterpreted that comment. After all he is a substitute teacher who looks like Keanu Reeves' doppelganger.
Sue the therapist is great and Ruth remains delightfully unquoteable.

Darlene washes Wyatt's hair. It's perfect, like a beautiful, semi-erotic painting.
Actually I was rooting for her during the baby Zeke trial, eventhough she's literally cut him out of Grace's belly. Yeah, details. But I just didn't want Wendy to win this (and would Zeke really be safer with them?)
I'm not a fan of the popular overuse of slow motion scenes, but Ozark uses a different speed so it's not always immediately noticeable.

I can always count on James from London to suggest the good stuff to me. At first I wasn't sure about Ozark but it's been a great experience so far (I'm knee-deep in episode 3.6).
 

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Actually I was rooting for her during the baby Zeke trial, eventhough she's literally cut him out of Grace's belly. Yeah, details. But I just didn't want Wendy to win this (and would Zeke really be safer with them?)
Frankly I'm amazed that either of them were given the baby at all! And it all happened so fast. Doesn't anyone do background checks on foster parents in Ozark?? :D
And yes, good point, who would he be safer with? Probably Darlene, even though she is psycho she so badly wanted to be a mother you could see her doing anything to protect him.

(I'm knee-deep in episode 3.6).
The rest of the season is so good. Enjoy the ride!
 

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Wendy's brother Ben, didn't they mention in season 1 that he was a highschool shooter?
There was a discussion between Wendy and Marty where they were worried about Jonah and the dead animals, and they said something along the lines of what if he turned out to be a high school shooter. So I don't think that was about Ben, but I feel like Ben did get a mention early on, I just don't remember what was said.
 

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Interview with some of the cast members about season 3 (spoilers for all of season 3).
With Jason Bateman, Laura Linney, Tom Pelphrey who plays Ben (amazingly this was his screen debut), Janet McTeer who plays Helen (who is British actually!) and Julia Garner who plays Ruth.


Wendy's brother Ben, didn't they mention in season 1 that he was a highschool shooter?
There was a discussion between Wendy and Marty where they were worried about Jonah and the dead animals, and they said something along the lines of what if he turned out to be a high school shooter. So I don't think that was about Ben, but I feel like Ben did get a mention early on, I just don't remember what was said.
Actually they discuss this in this video. It was during that conversation about Jonah that they also mention Wendy's brother and she says something like I hope he doesn't turn out like my brother. Apparently Laura Linney asked that they add that line, even though no brother had been conceived yet by the writers.
 

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spoilers for all of season 3
I'll watch it later, I'm doing episode 8 right now. I'm almost afraid to finish it because there's no guarantee that the fourth season will happen in the foreseeable future.
Heck, they may be forced to do a time-jump because they'll all look much older! (I guess it wouldn't be difficult to recast baby Zeke).

Julia Garner who plays Ruth.
I know her from The Americans, and Darren Goldstein (Charles Wilkes) played Oscar Hodges in The Affair.
 

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And that was season 3! Wow, this was really very very good. Bipolar Ben was a fantastic addition to the story, and it's great to see Darlene back in action.
 

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But now I'm watching New Mexico aka Breaking Bad. I don't remember all the details from the first two seasons and it's all very watchable anyway. It looks weirdly dated - but then again, it's 12 (!) years ago. Hank's colourful but trashy comments are funny and Marie is plain awful but their love for Walter Junior makes them a bit more likeable. The physical acting is very good, especially the bounceable Pinkman.

And, because I'm going to post an Ozark vs BB poll after I've finished BB, I can keep my avatar for a while. It's a little underhanded, I know, but I had to do something.
 

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Bipolar Ben was a fantastic addition to the story
He certainly was and I must say I thought his acting was superb.

But now I'm watching New Mexico aka Breaking Bad. I don't remember all the details from the first two seasons and it's all very watchable anyway. It looks weirdly dated - but then again, it's 12 (!) years ago. Hank's colourful but trashy comments are funny and Marie is plain awful but their love for Walter Junior makes them a bit more likeable. The physical acting is very good, especially the bounceable Pinkman.

And, because I'm going to post an Ozark vs BB poll after I've finished BB, I can keep my avatar for a while. It's a little underhanded, I know, but I had to do something.
Oh wonderful. Will you be posting about it? I really encourage you to stick with it this time because, just like Ozark, every season gets better and better. And as for your poll I can tell you now that as much as I loved Ozark, Breaking Bad wins for me. Although maybe season 4 of Ozark will change my mind!

I'm watching this right now, and I'm beginning to realize that Laura Linney would have been a great new Claudia Blaisdel (preferably in a better new Dynasty).
Although she's a lot older than who they did cast for Claudia.
 

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I really encourage you to stick with it this time because, just like Ozark, every season gets better and better
The main reason I stopped watching season 3 was a certain turning point in the story that affected the authenticity of the White family characters, and I just couldn't buy into it anymore. It kind of felt as if they ignored the very premise of the story, but then I never found out exactly how that developed.
Ironically, OZARK is all about that turning point from the very beginning, as we see the Byrdes immediately adapt to their new lives, and in season 2 the story starts to blur the line between the horrible necessity and ambition.

If Breaking Bad is the "Dallas" of the drugs soaps, then Ozark is the "Knots Landing".
Breaking Bad wins for me
How thrilling, and indeed very encouraging!
 
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