The Corona Virus

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I just discovered that Boris Johnson has been lying to us again, this time regarding the number of people who are being tested for Covid-19 in the UK.

A Covid-19 test normally consists of 2 swabs being taken from a person, one from the nose and the other from the throat. His government has been counting each swab as a separate test to artificially inflate the number of tests they are carrying out. This shameful manipulation of the data is as bad an anything you would expect from the Chinese or Russian governments.

Johnson is again is prioritising protecting his reputation and that of his wretched government over protecting the British and Northern Irish people from Covid-19.
 

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oh i i agree that cops should stop killing blacks that's not a question, but here's the thing there's a lot of ways to do that but to go from state to state and Destroy all the property, i think that's taking things to far, you know it didn't get this back when the last one that was all over the news here in ohio was killed by the cops whatever year it was. Cops have been doing that since before any of us were born, it's not right it's never been right and it never will be right at all. but it feels like one of those end of the world films doesn't it?

ya know having a riot take place where it happened i get but from state to state that's just messed up. apparently we had that happen in Cleveland and it wasn't from anyone who even lived there apparently people came out of state to do it. how messed up is that?

but at the same time the people in charge do need to do something about it and not lie to the public about it and than do nothing they need to make changes and show proof than things may calm down. trump is gonna be on tv tonight my guess to make things worse
 

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off topic i just saw on yahoo news that it's now not legal to screw anyone outside your house hold from now on well at least until the pandemic is over. those dating sites and bootie call sites are gonna really go broke now
 

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I’m actually very confused and frustrated. We are still being fed the stay at home message, essential journeys only yet yesterday HUNDREDS of people stood in line for IKEA.
 

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off topic i just saw on yahoo news that it's now not legal to screw anyone outside your house hold from now on well at least until the pandemic is over. those dating sites and bootie call sites are gonna really go broke now
We had something like that here briefly. (Unofficially called the "bonk ban".) But then they said that it did not apply to people who were considered "partners" even if they didn't live together.
 

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Yesterday in the UK (population 66 million) had more deaths from Covid-19 than the entire European Union (population 450 million). At Prime Minister's Questions yesterday Boris Johnson said he was "proud" of how his government have handled the Covid-19 strategy. Truly shocking.
 

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Yesterday the media here in the US reported an increase in 21,000 Covid-19 cases over the last few days. Between the mass demonstrations and so many states lifting restrictions and stay at home order, I fear things here are going to go from horrible to horrific very quickly.
 

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Yesterday in the UK (population 66 million) had more deaths from Covid-19 than the entire European Union (population 450 million). At Prime Minister's Questions yesterday Boris Johnson said he was "proud" of how his government have handled the Covid-19 strategy. Truly shocking.
Sounds eerily familiar to what is happening here in the US.
 

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Yesterday in the UK (population 66 million) had more deaths from Covid-19 than the entire European Union (population 450 million). At Prime Minister's Questions yesterday Boris Johnson said he was "proud" of how his government have handled the Covid-19 strategy. Truly shocking.
But he may truly have been proud. Given his amazing stupidity and ineptitude, the numbers may be a miracle compared to what they could have been. Let's not forget he also started with n̶e̶r̶d̶ herd immunity like Sweden.
 

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we will have a 2nd outbreak you know it once this protests calm down there's not a question about it but a fact so still stay safe ladies and gents
 

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we will have a 2nd outbreak you know it once this protests calm down there's not a question about it but a fact so still stay safe ladies and gents
Let's not forget that for months right-wingers have been protesting against the lockdown, gathering in large numbers and making a point of not exercising social distancing and wearing face coverings.

US lockdown protests may have spread virus widely, cellphone data suggests

From what I've seen, many, although not enough, of the Black Lives Matter protesters have been wearing face coverings.

 

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Let's not forget he also started with n̶e̶r̶d̶ herd immunity like Sweden.
For the 100th time, that's not Sweden's strategy. It's only a theory that we still don't know if it works. Our strategy is based on the virus being a long-term pandemic and what restrictions actually can be active during a long period of time in this country.

Unlike most other countries, we do most of what politicians and authorities advice us to do. Our high death numbers is not because people don't practice social distancing. It's because we lack protective gear for residential homes. The staff has had to visit all elderly without enough protection and therefore have spread the virus from patient to patient. That's why almost all deaths have been people over 70 with more than one underlying illness. We have not been able to protect our elderly because of lack of masks, visors, gloves etc at the residential homes.

Unfortunately, young people have now started to relax. Many have had graduation parties. And there's been 3 big manifestations for Black Lives Matter last week with way too many protesters. Second wave - here we come!!!
 

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For the 100th time, that's not Sweden's strategy. It's only a theory that we still don't know if it works. Our strategy is based on the virus being a long-term pandemic and what restrictions actually can be active during a long period of time in this country.
Despite what the Swedish ambassador said...
"About 30% of people in Stockholm have reached a level of immunity," Karin Ulrika Olofsdotter told NPR. "We could reach herd immunity in the capital as early as next month."
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/26/8452...-herd-immunity-in-may-swedish-ambassador-says

It may indeed be that this is not what Sweden's official strategy is and somehow the ambassador was...hmmm, misinformed. But still...

"Sweden’s government insists that it does not have a herd immunity strategy, but Swedish virologist Lena Einhorn said that “they have denied it, but under their breaths they have acknowledged” the strategy, according to France24."

https://www.sfgate.com/news/editors...unity-experiment-backfires-covid-15289437.php
 

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Despite what the Swedish ambassador said...
"About 30% of people in Stockholm have reached a level of immunity," Karin Ulrika Olofsdotter told NPR. "We could reach herd immunity in the capital as early as next month."
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/26/8452...-herd-immunity-in-may-swedish-ambassador-says

It may indeed be that this is not what Sweden's official strategy is and somehow the ambassador was...hmmm, misinformed. But still...

"Sweden’s government insists that it does not have a herd immunity strategy, but Swedish virologist Lena Einhorn said that “they have denied it, but under their breaths they have acknowledged” the strategy, according to France24."

https://www.sfgate.com/news/editors...unity-experiment-backfires-covid-15289437.php
I listen to the press conferences every day and read the news. The ambassador knows about as much of this as an everyday Joe on Facebook who thinks he's an expert because he has read an article.

Lena Einhorn is only speculating. I haven't even heard of her before as a medical expert. She is mostly known as an author and director. She is not involved in this in ANY way. I googled her and she worked mostly with tumours. She left the medical profession already in the 80s.

So... the sources are not reliable.

What is going on right now is trying to learn more about the virus and test people who have recovered from covid-19 to see how many of them have developed antibodies. The next step is to figure out if people with antibodies are immune or not. And if they are immune, how immune and for how long? How many antibodies does it take to develope some kind of immunity?

These are questions in focus for researchers right now as well as trying to find a vaccine or at least a good treatment.

We believe, based on tests, that around 30% of Stockholm residents have had covid-19. Some having had it confirmed, some not. It's them that are mainly in focus when trying to find out if they have antibodies or not. If those with antibodies are immune or not is still unknown. Another question is what kind of immunity they may have.

No one is saying that you get immune if you've had covid-19. It's only a theory that needs to be tested. Therefore, the strategy is not herd immunity since we don't even know if you get immune after recovering.

Our strategy isn't really much different from many other countries. It's been grossly misinterpreted. And media in other countries keep on quoting sources that aren't valid or correct. Some on purpose (fascists regimes like Russia and China) and some because the journalists aren't bothered about checking the sources. Like that Lena Einhorn. She should never be officially quoted about covid-19. They might as well quote me.
 

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An eerie prophecy on the coronavirus pandemic: Sylvia Browne, in her book - End of Days: Predictions and Prophecies About the End of the World, apparently predicted the outbreak in 2008.

“In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again ten years later, and then disappear completely.”



“In around 2020 a severe pneumonia-like illness will spread throughout the globe, attacking the lungs and the bronchial tubes and resisting all known treatments. Almost more baffling than the illness itself will be the fact that it will suddenly vanish as quickly as it arrived, attack again 10 years later, and then disappear completely,” the book reads.
 

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All of NI’s stores have been given the go ahead to open today.

Cue second wave.
 
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