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Somebody's developed a sense of humour. My supermarket now has floor stickers which say "Keep 1.5 metres apart (Makes the Heart Grow Fonder)".
 

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I read today that here in the U.S. we may actually be experiencing a second wave and they may have to revert back to stricter lockdowns despite the opening up of much of the country.
I'm having a hard time with it, and I'm much luckier than people who have lost loved ones or their jobs. My heart really goes out to them
My 90 year old mother and the other residents of her nursing hine has been quaquarantinto in their tiny rooms since the end of February. I understand the necessity of it, but still this is cruel and unusual punishment,

I know the coronavirus is very serious, but how can any country survive another several months of this lockdown, economically, socially, and psychologically?
Every time there seems to be some good news it's crushed. Very disheartening.
 
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Every time there seems to be some good news it's crushed. Very disheartening.
Last week in Australia there were protest rallies in support of events stemming from America. Despite State Premiers, our Prime Minister and health authorities requesting people to stay home thousands descended on our major cities. One person who attended a rally in Melbourne, Victoria has tested positive to Covid-19. I understand people wishing to show support to our American friends but in this current climate for the love of GOD people think of the wider community.

Australia - as a whole - has done remarkably well during this Covid-19 crisis. This came about because the majority of Aussies, in typical fashion, banded together as one. Authorities are now waiting 2 weeks to see if further positive results will stem from those protest rallies. I have my fingers crossed we don't otherwise our state governments are going to lock everything down again.
 

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I know the coronavirus is very serious, but how can any country survive another several months of this lockdown, economically, socially, and psychologically?
I know - it's cruel on so many levels. If you don't die of COVID-19 because you're in total lockdown, then you might die because you are in lockdown for a very long time. Without exercise such as a long walk, you may suffer muscle atrophy. You may even get a higher blood pressure which of course can cause heart problems. Isolation is good for absolutely no one.

In this case, I am relieved that my grandparents are no longer around. They didn't live near any grocery store or pharmacy out there in the countryside. They needed their children to drive them to a store. And if we all couldn't help because we could spread the virus to them, they'd be all alone and pretty much helpless.
 

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Victoria has seen an uptick in new cases over the last ten days or so resulting in a re-tightening of some restrictions while, confusingly, others are still being loosened.

It looks like we my be headed for that dreaded "second wave" - and there's already been a new run on toilet paper. :rolleyes:
 

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I can't believe the number of people I see not wearing masks or social distancing. I see more people even in stores and on public transportation where there are signs everwhere saying masks must be worn. The people in charge don't enforce these rules which I think is a result of all the recent rioting and this extreme anti-police sentiment. Store managers don't want someone tearing up there store because they were asked to wear a mask.
Unfortunately, I think there will be a second wave, but if people aren't following the rules now, how can they bring back the lockdown? We are descending into lawlessness.
I am really trying to be hopeful, but sometimes I feel as if we really are witnessing the collapse of society. I'm considering accepting that and going on a severe news consumption diet. Every day I'll not even expect to read any good news about society and be grateful for the "little," such as seeing a clear, blue sky.
If anyone has any signs of hope about society, please share them.
 
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When I hear our government claim they are doing a great job with how they are handling the Covid-19 crisis I feel angry and the relaxation of the current restriction feels dangerously premature. In the UK we have the second worse Covid-19 death toll in the world so how can that be a success?

Closer to home, one of my friends lost both her parents to Covid-19, two other friends lost their mothers, a former employee lost her father and my manager at my first full time job lost his wife of over 40 years, all as a direct result of the coronavirus.

How can our government think it's doing a good job?
 

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N Ireland is opening bars and restaurants on July 4 and of course my friend who cannot stay at home immediately wants to go out. The rest of us are more cautious and in no rush. I have no real desire to be going out immediately - is that silly?

Babies are now getting it. It’s still very much here. I’m actually finding the relaxing of lockdown even more of a headmelt than the supposed lockdown itself. I can’t do this wishy washy stuff of being in between.

My friend hasn’t abided by the rules at all either - which worries me about being too close.
 

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News came out today that Sweden already had the virus here in December, which is about 2 months before the first confirmed case (at that time) was reported. I imagine the virus was quite spread in many countries by December as well. The first cases had not been to Italy, but to Spain and other countries. The virus didn't first come to Sweden from Italy after all. It was already spreading when all those people went on their ski trips to northern Italy back in February.
 

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There has always been a belief among epidemiologists (and a few others) in South Florida that the reason Miami-Dade became such a hotspot was because of the Super Bowl being held there. That was Feb. 20.
 

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N Ireland is opening bars and restaurants on July 4 and of course my friend who cannot stay at home immediately wants to go out. The rest of us are more cautious and in no rush. I have no real desire to be going out immediately - is that silly?

Babies are now getting it. It’s still very much here. I’m actually finding the relaxing of lockdown even more of a headmelt than the supposed lockdown itself. I can’t do this wishy washy stuff of being in between.

My friend hasn’t abided by the rules at all either - which worries me about being too close.
I was always one for going out and socialising. However the thought of going to a bar, getting table service, social distancing, sitting very far apart at tables, limited numbers of people allowed in the bar. Well of that sounds like a punishment to me. It seems like there would be zero craic. I cant see me going near many bars for a while. I would like to go to a few nice restaurants with my food buddies though.
I have looked into going back to work too. So far my doctor is saying wait until the end of July. I have heard that it can be up to your own discretion though. Apparently more shielding letters are going out at the minute with updated advice. If I can I hope on getting back to work in the next 2 weeks or so.
 

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Congratulations to Liverpool fantastic win and all that, BUT - 2000 people in a tight space all celebrating last night and the police did nothing?

And people still can't hold proper weddings and funerals???

:fp::fp::fp:
 

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Congratulations to Liverpool fantastic win and all that, BUT - 2000 people in a tight space all celebrating last night and the police did nothing?

And people still can't hold proper weddings and funerals???

:fp::fp::fp:
The Prime Minister said it was alright for people to act on their instincts when he was defending Dominic Cummings so I imagine that if you are a Liverpool fan waiting 30 years to win the top English football league your instinct would be to celebrate with other Liverpool fans. The police couldn't do anything because Boris Johnson effectively ended the lockdown when he backed Cummings.
 

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2000 people in a tight space all celebrating last night and the police did nothing?
Just like the crowds on the beach yesterday. Selfish halfwits with no concern for their safety or that of other people.



The waste of resources on trying to manage idiots like this is just sickening. Especially when you consider that we're in a worldwide pandemic and there was a significant terrorist attack in the UK just days ago.

For the people who are full of such entitlement there's no real deterrent in the form of consequences. It was gratifying to see these boozy Brits receive a hefty fine and get barred from working in Singapore. We could do with more of that here.
 

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The situation in Victoria has worsened, with an alarming increase in case numbers.

Residents of some apartment towers have been virtually imprisoned there since Sunday, the border with @Rove 's state of New South Wales has been closed for the first time in a century, and now the entire Greater Melbourne area is returning to lockdown as of midnight tonight.

It's all being blamed on security lapses in hotels where returned overseas travellers were being quarantined, including one salacious allegation of an intimate encounter between a guard and a guest.

There is a reluctance by the authorities to use the term "second wave" but that's little more than semantics at this point.
 

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That’s bad for Australia I didn’t think it was bad there. I am absolutely anticipating a second wave and I’m going to have to ask for a change in my working conditions if it does happen. I think the term essential worker really does need to be examined, and limited.

There was a small rise in cases in Northern Ireland yesterday and other parts of Europe have spiked. Lockdowns are being lifted for the sake of the economy but it’s far too soon. I have a hard time understanding people who HAVE to go out - it doesn’t bother me staying in - but I do feel this is going to happen again.
 

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In Sweden, more young people are getting the virus now. And it's not any surprise why. They are having fun with friends. Many stupid influencers are posting photos and videos from parties they're having. They are being slammed by sensible people, but they don't care. They think they're invincible.

I'm going back to work next month after being home since March. I don't think it's possible to always be at least 5 feet away from each student. I can just hope they are sensible enough to stay home if they feel slightly ill.
 

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That’s bad for Australia I didn’t think it was bad there.
Most of the rest of the country seems to be doing fine, although NSW now has a few cases they are watching now, too.
 
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