The Masked Singer

[Ukdallasfan]

Yes big surprise about Sausage

 

[Englishboy]

Well, I was way off with my guesses!

Ne Yo is the only one of this year's celebrities who I have not heard of.

Regarding Joss Stone, the Blackpool clue was a bit of a red herring.

Apparently, there is a beach in South Devon where Joss was raised called Blackpool sands.

Whatever, I have thoroughly enjoyed this year's series. Roll on the Masked Dancer later on in the year.

 

[Angela Channing]

What I really like about this series is the quality of the singers they have on it. It's not the usual reality TV stars or former Hollyoaks actors that are behind the mask but some really high calibre and famous singers like Ne-Yo, Sophie Ellis-Bexter and Morten Harket and well known celebrities like Graham Hoddle, Lenny Henry and John Thompson.

The overnight ratings for the show were also good: 8.6 million viewers average and a peak 10.6 million.

 

[Marika]

In Germany, season 4 is currently in full swing. So far we've had 3 shows.

These contestants have been eliminated:

Das Schwein (The Pig) -> sports reporter Katrin Müller-Hohenstein

Das Einhorn (The Unicorn) -> former Olympic swimmer Franziska van Almsick

Das Quokka (The Quokka) -> actor Henning Baum

These are still in the running:

Der Stier (The Bull) -> most probably singer Guildo Horn (represented Germany in the Eurovision Song Contest 1998)

Seven Nation Army - The White Stripes | Der Stier | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Mit diesem Auftritt animiert der Stier seine Fans zum Abstimmen. Er kombiniert die Stadionhymne "Seven Nation Army" der Rockband The White Stripes mit David ...

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Die Schildkröte (The Turtle) -> most probably singer Thomas Anders (one half of 80s pop act Modern Talking)

Way Down We Go - Kaleo | Die Schildkröte | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Die Schildkröte tritt in Show 3 mit "Way Down We Go" von Kaleo auf und sorgt damit wieder für einen Gänsehautmoment. Das Rateteam und die Zuschauer zu Hause ...

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Der Monstronaut (The Monstronaut) -> rumored to be either Thore Schölermann or Daniel Poschmann (both tv hosts)

When We Were Young - The Killers | Der Monstronaut | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

In Show 2 versucht sich der Monstronaut an der Rocknummer "When We Were Young" von The Killers und begeistert mit seinem Auftritt die "The Masked Singer"-Fan...

www.youtube.com

Der Leopard (The Leopard) -> most probably singer Cassandra Steen

Golden Eye - Tina Turner | Der Leopard | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Mit dem Bond-Song "Golden Eye" von Rocklegende Tina Turner begeistert der Leopard in Show 1 die Zuschauer und das Rateteam. Doch zu welchem prominenten Under...

www.youtube.com

Das Küken (The Chick) -> most probably tv host Judith Rakers

All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor | Das Küken | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Das Küken will mit seinem Auftritt Rea Garvey beweisen, dass es alles andere als ein Brathähnchen ist. Mit "All About That Bass" von Meghan Trainor gibt es a...

www.youtube.com

Der Flamingo (The Flamingo) -> has an androgynous voice ... rumored to be singer Ross Antony

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Der Dinosaurer (The Dinosaur) -> most probably singer Sasha

Get Lucky - Daft Punk | Der Dinosaurier | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Der Dinosaurier begeistert in Show 3 mit zwei Welthits. Er performt "Rapper's Delight" der Sugarhill Gang sowie "Get Lucky" der Electro-Band Daft Punk. Doch ...

www.youtube.com

 

[Angela Channing]

In Germany, season 4 is currently in full swing. So far we've had 3 shows.

These contestants have been eliminated:

Das Schwein (The Pig) -> sports reporter Katrin Müller-Hohenstein

Das Einhorn (The Unicorn) -> former Olympic swimmer Franziska van Almsick

Das Quokka (The Quokka) -> actor Henning Baum

These are still in the running:

Der Stier (The Bull) -> most probably singer Guildo Horn (represented Germany in the Eurovision Song Contest 1998)

Seven Nation Army - The White Stripes | Der Stier | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Mit diesem Auftritt animiert der Stier seine Fans zum Abstimmen. Er kombiniert die Stadionhymne "Seven Nation Army" der Rockband The White Stripes mit David ...

www.youtube.com

Die Schildkröte (The Turtle) -> most probably singer Thomas Anders (one half of 80s pop act Modern Talking)

Way Down We Go - Kaleo | Die Schildkröte | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Die Schildkröte tritt in Show 3 mit "Way Down We Go" von Kaleo auf und sorgt damit wieder für einen Gänsehautmoment. Das Rateteam und die Zuschauer zu Hause ...

www.youtube.com

Der Monstronaut (The Monstronaut) -> rumored to be either Thore Schölermann or Daniel Poschmann (both tv hosts)

When We Were Young - The Killers | Der Monstronaut | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

In Show 2 versucht sich der Monstronaut an der Rocknummer "When We Were Young" von The Killers und begeistert mit seinem Auftritt die "The Masked Singer"-Fan...

www.youtube.com

Der Leopard (The Leopard) -> most probably singer Cassandra Steen

Golden Eye - Tina Turner | Der Leopard | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Mit dem Bond-Song "Golden Eye" von Rocklegende Tina Turner begeistert der Leopard in Show 1 die Zuschauer und das Rateteam. Doch zu welchem prominenten Under...

www.youtube.com

Das Küken (The Chick) -> most probably tv host Judith Rakers

All About That Bass - Meghan Trainor | Das Küken | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Das Küken will mit seinem Auftritt Rea Garvey beweisen, dass es alles andere als ein Brathähnchen ist. Mit "All About That Bass" von Meghan Trainor gibt es a...

www.youtube.com

Der Flamingo (The Flamingo) -> has an androgynous voice ... rumored to be singer Ross Antony

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Der Dinosaurer (The Dinosaur) -> most probably singer Sasha

Get Lucky - Daft Punk | Der Dinosaurier | The Masked Singer | ProSieben

Der Dinosaurier begeistert in Show 3 mit zwei Welthits. Er performt "Rapper's Delight" der Sugarhill Gang sowie "Get Lucky" der Electro-Band Daft Punk. Doch ...

www.youtube.com

It's interesting that so many songs were performed in English rather than German.

 

[Marika]

It's interesting that so many songs were performed in English rather than German.

That's because Germany has a long history of listening to and producing music with English lyrics. Barring the schlager genre and hip hop, only a few local mainstream artists sing in German. Our radio stations have always been playing American and British music.

List of best-selling singles by year (Germany) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Marika]

Season 4 of the Masked Singer Germany was won by singer Sasha, posing as the Dinosaur.

 

[Angela Channing]

Season 4 of the Masked Singer Germany was won by singer Sasha, posing as the Dinosaur.

I've not heard of Sasha as I don't think she has broken in to the UK market yet. How big a star is she? What amazes me about the UK version of The Masked Singer is that they have some really high profile celebrities taking part.

 

[Marika]

I've not heard of Sasha as I don't think she has broken in to the UK market yet. How big a star is she? What amazes me about the UK version of The Masked Singer is that they have some really high profile celebrities taking part.

Haha, Sasha is a guy Usually spelled "Sascha", it's a short form of Alexander. He's been in the music business since 1997 and has released 7 successful studio albums.

Sasha (German singer) discography - Wikipedia

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A few years ago, he switched from singing in English to German.

This was probably his biggest hit from 1998:

Cassandra Steen, who came 2nd this season, has also been making music since the early 2000s, both as a solo artist and as the frontwoman of "Glashaus".

Thomas Anders, who finished 4th, was one half of 80s pop duo "Modern Talking" who were huge in most parts of Europe (except for the UK, it seems).

Modern Talking discography - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ross Antony (who was born in England) has been in the spotlight since the early 2000s when he was part of the pop group "Bro'Sis". Now he's a well known schlager singer and tv host. Thore Schölermann was once a soap actor, and because of his popular gay storyline he gained an international fanbase. He's now a tv host, presenting "The Voice of Germany" and other shows. Judith Rakers hosts the most watched news on TV, and Olympic swimmer Franziska van Almsick was a media sensation in the 90s.

I think this latest season had the most high-quality celebrities to date.

 

[Angela Channing]

Haha, Sasha is a guy

Oops, that was embarrassing for me, lol. He's a good singer, it's a shame he's not more widely known in the UK.

The Mask Singer continues to fascinate me. It's a show I shouldn't really like because it's so crazy but I always find myself compelled to watch it.

 

[DallasFanForever]

The Masked Singer is a guilty pleasure of mine as well. It’s not something I would normally watch but for some reason when I start watching it I can’t stop. I find it very fascinating.

 

[Emelee]

The Swedish version premiered last week.

The 6 first performances:

 

[Marika]

In Germany, season 5 of The Masked Singer started 2 weeks ago.

The 10 contestants are:

Die Chili (The Chili):

-> Unmasked in the 1st show as Jens Riewa, main presenter of Germany's most-watched news program "Tagesschau"

Der Hammerhai (The Hammerhead Shark):

-> Unmasked in the 2nd show as Pierre Littbarski, former professional soccer player and soccer coach who was part of the national team when Germany won the World Championship in 1990

Das Axolotl (The Axolotl):

-> This one has an awful voice

Das Stinktier (The Skunk): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vok579CRtIM

Mülli Müller (Furry Thing in a Trashcan): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnZMl5iZTjM

Der Mops (The Pug): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfU_hch0lKY
-> Most likely this is singer Carolin Niemczyk, one half of pop duo "Glasperlenspiel"

Der Teddy (The Teddy Bear): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY4GXzGU0Ao

Der Phönix (The Phoenix): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMGosJN1TGs
-> Most likely this is someone sitting in a wheelchair

Die Heldin (The Heroine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwNjYp2WS6Q
-> Most likely this is Austrian singer Christina Stürmer

Die Raupe (The Caterpillar): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1ZaxDvl90I
-> Most likely this is singer Sandy Mölling, a member of Germany's most successful girl group "No Angels"

 

[Monzo]

Have the candidates also got worse in terms of singing in other countries? Definitely in Germany. The first few seasons were really good, but good voices are now the exception. TMS is still the most watched show of channel ProSieben, but it only has 55 percent of viewers who watched it in its heyday and those heydays are not so long ago.

 

[Marika]

TMS is still the most watched show of channel ProSieben, but it only has 55 percent of viewers who watched it in its heyday and those heydays are not so long ago.

That's not entirely true.

Season 1 had 3.15 million viewers on average.
Season 2 was the most-watched season with 4.15 million viewers on average, and that's probably because that season aired during the 1st Covid-Lockdown.
Seasons 3 and 4 averaged 3.3 millions, and the premiere of season 5 gained the same numbers.

The season 2 finale was the most-watched episode with 5.34 millions, but the second most-watched episode had 4.3 millions, so that finale was an outlier.

What's more important is the market share in adults aged 14-49, and according to these numbers, season 5 is still on par with the earlier seasons.

 

[Monzo]

Season 2 was the most-watched season with 4.15 million viewers on average, and that's probably because that season aired during the 1st Covid-Lockdown.
Seasons 3 and 4 averaged 3.3 millions, and the premiere of season 5 gained the same numbers.

The season 2 finale was the most-watched episode with 5.34 millions, but the second most-watched episode had 4.3 millions, so that finale was an outlier.

What's more important is the market share in adults aged 14-49, and according to these numbers, season 5 is still on par with the earlier seasons.

Market share for total viewers for first two shows of season 5 was 11,3% and 10,7%, while in Covid-Season (season 2) worst share was 12,0%, best was 19,1%. In Covid-Season (season) 2 market share in adults aged 14-49: worst share was 24,6%, best was 36,9%, this season so far: 24,1% twice. Last season (4) market shares in adults aged 14-49 for first two shows: 26,7% and 26,1%.

Season premieres in million viewers: S1: 2,19 S2: 3,32 S3: 3,33 S4: 3,55 S5: 2,97
Season premieres in market shares: S1: 9,4% S2: 12,0% S3: 12,5% S4: 12,3% S5: 11,3%
Season premieres in market shares in adults aged 14-49: S1: 20,7% S2: 25,3% S3: 25,9% S4: 26,7% S5:24,1%

 

[Marika]

Wikipedia has slightly different numbers than your list – probably because their numbers are Live+7 ratings, adding viewers who didn't watch the show live, but at a later point.

Still, I don't see a 45 % drop in viewership as you mentioned earlier, especially not in terms of market share. These are still very good numbers – there's hardly any other show that manages to reach a market share of 20 % among adults 14-49.

 

[Monzo]

Wikipedia has slightly different numbers than your list – probably because their numbers are Live+7 ratings, adding viewers who didn't watch the show live, but at a later point.

Still, I don't see a 45 % drop in viewership as you mentioned earlier, especially not in terms of market share. These are still very good numbers – there's hardly any other show that manages to reach a market share of 20 % among adults 14-49.

Wikipedia lists seasons 1,2 & 4 premieres live ratings, while seasons 3 &5 are live+3, so if there are not all time shifted numbers available you can compare live ratings. By the way, Wikipedia links all ratings to the source.

The 45% drop is obtained by using the rule of three. Use heyday viewership and last show's viewership and you get the result. The drop is actually 47,72% but I rounded it down to 45%.

Like I said before The Masked Singer is still ProSieben's most watched show. It's great but not that uncommon to reach a market share of 20 % among adults 14-49. Here's an overview of shows with more than 20% market share among adults 14-49 within the last seven days:
10/29 RTL aktuell 20,5%
10/27 DFB-Pokal: Borussia Mönchengladbach – FC Bayern München: 26,7%
10/27 Tagesthemen: 22,4%
10/25 RTL aktuell: 20,6%
10/24 Tatort: 26,5%
10/24 Tagesschau: 24,5%
10/23 The Masked Singer: 24,1%
10/23 Tagesschau: 23,3%

 

[Marika]

I guess you consider the show's heyday the season 2 finale, which had an abnormally high audience compared to the rest of the season – which I already mentioned earlier.

In these numbers you listed here

Season premieres in million viewers: S1: 2,19 S2: 3,32 S3: 3,33 S4: 3,55 S5: 2,97
Season premieres in market shares: S1: 9,4% S2: 12,0% S3: 12,5% S4: 12,3% S5: 11,3%
Season premieres in market shares in adults aged 14-49: S1: 20,7% S2: 25,3% S3: 25,9% S4: 26,7% S5:24,1%

I don't see any drop by 45 %.
In my book, 3.32 million (season 2 premiere) to 2.97 (season 5 premiere) million is a drop by 10 %.

Like I said before The Masked Singer is still ProSieben's most watched show. It's great but not that uncommon to reach a market share of 20 % among adults 14-49. Here's an overview of shows with more than 20% market share among adults 14-49 within the last seven days:
10/29 RTL aktuell 20,5%
10/27 DFB-Pokal: Borussia Mönchengladbach – FC Bayern München: 26,7%
10/27 Tagesthemen: 22,4%
10/25 RTL aktuell: 20,6%
10/24 Tatort: 26,5%
10/24 Tagesschau: 24,5%
10/23 The Masked Singer: 24,1%
10/23 Tagesschau: 23,3%

Yeah, and The Masked Singer is the only classic entertainment show among these. The rest are news, sports and a "cult" crime show.

But let's leave it at this, comparing and discussing too many numbers can get frustrating – I'm already looking forward to tonight's show

 

[Monzo]

I guess you consider the show's heyday the season 2 finale, which had an abnormally high audience compared to the rest of the season – which I already mentioned earlier.

Correct, I compared most viewers ever to current viewership, that's the drop I've mentioned. You're right, our discussion is going nowhere. You got your point of view, I got mine. By the way, I was asking if in other countries are less good singers compared to earlier seasons, I didn't intend to go into a ratings discussion. There are a few German ratings forums, so I guess Tellytalk users are not so curious about it.