Who will replace Biden as the Democratic nominee?

[CeeCee72]

Politico is reporting that former President Obama will formally endorse VP Harris sometime today or tomorrow.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Politico is reporting that former President Obama will formally endorse VP Harris sometime today or tomorrow.

It's the only thing he could do at this point. She's got the nomination locked up, and establishment Democrats always unite behind the party's selection.

Establishment Democrats have begun gaslighting people too. They claim that concerns over Harris's undemocratic ascension to Democratic Party candidate for President are "Republican talking points." They're also dismissive towards people who believe the Dems should have held a proper, competitive primary and been honest about Biden's poor mental condition from the start. They're as much of a threat to democracy as any Republican, which is why they're now deflecting from criticism over the coronation of Harris.

 

[Angela Channing]

Delegates at the Democratic convention are not obligated to vote for Kamala and are free to vote for any candidate now that they are no longer tied to Joe Biden. So people who think the process is undemocratic should say who they think should challenge her as all votes are now potentially up for grabs. However, if they can't suggest a realistic candidate why are they even raising this as an issue? In a democratic process, a candidate that is elected unopposed is entirely legitimate.

What's important now is beating the corrupt, racist, rapist Republican nominee.

 

[Seaviewer]

Obama definitely has a card up his sleeve by not endorsing Harris, what exactly that card is remains to be seen. Dr. Jill's secret meeting with Deval Patrick in Boston means something as well. Whatever it is, it will be the same damaging Democrat product with different packaging.

Well, the Obamas have endorsed her now.

This is cute.

 

[CeeCee72]

Well, the Obamas have endorsed her now.

Another conspiracy theory dead!

 

[Frank Underwood]

Why is it that when I mention the Democrats lied about Biden's mental decline and held a fake primary, people go straight to delegates? What about the process before this? This is also the third primary in a row in which Dems have been caught meddling in the process in an effort to subvert the will of voters. Nothing about that is democratic IMO.

Four years ago, there was speculation among some people (including myself) that Biden was likely the contingency to get Harris in the White House. By having him choose her as his VP, the process of replacing Biden with Harris would be relatively easy. Considering everything that's taken place, I'd say that's another conspiracy theory confirmed!

As for Obama, he's always been an opportunist. He probably thought Harris would have more competition, but he was always going to back whoever the party insiders chose.

 

[Frank Underwood]

What's important now is beating the corrupt, racist, rapist Republican nominee.

Those are the same traits that the current president possesses. Biden's own daughter Ashley was traumatized because her perverted father would shower with her.

Now the corrupt prosecutor who fought to uphold wrongful convictions and to keep non-violent offenders locked up for use as cheap prison labor is being handed the nomination. She ended up being a great pick for Biden, the architect of a crime bill that predominantly impacted people of color. But he's forgiven because he "apologized."

IMO, voting our way out of corruption and evil is simply impossible.

 

[Angela Channing]

The only people getting their knickers in a twist about the process by which the Democrats are choosing their Presidential nominee are people who never had any intention of voting for them. Meanwhile, the Democrats have united behind Kamala and getting on with the business of beating Trump who is now so rattled he is trying to get out of debating with her.

 

[Frank Underwood]

The only people getting their knickers in a twist about the process by which the Democrats are choosing their Presidential nominee are people who never had any intention of voting for them.

By your logic, people who aren't voting in the general election shouldn't care about the democratic process at any level.

Democrats and their supporters have finally revealed that they don't actually care about democracy. They only hide behind it disingenuously to attack their opponent.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have united behind Kamala and getting on with the business of beating Trump who is now so rattled he is trying to get out of debating with her.

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LMAO, you're so disingenuous. Trump said he won't commit to debating Harris until she's confirmed as the Democratic Party nominee.

And honestly, it's completely understandable after he was burned debating Biden. A presidential debate should NEVER be held before the conventions for this very reason.

 

[Angela Channing]

By your logic, people who aren't voting in the general election shouldn't care about the democratic process at any level.

Democrats and their supporters have finally revealed that they don't actually care about democracy. They only hide behind it disingenuously to attack their opponent.

Not at all. If Kamala is nominated it will be by a democratic process. What you are suggesting is that a Democratic Party politician who supports Kamala to be the nominee should be forced to stand against her in a fake contest to appease Republicans and other people who are not even going to vote for the Democratic Party candidate whoever that might be. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? The Democrats are right to ignore those voices and focus on beating rapist Trump.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Not at all. If Kamala is nominated it will be by a democratic process. What you are suggesting is that a Democratic Party politician who supports Kamala to be the nominee should be forced to stand against her in a fake contest to appease Republicans and other people who are not even going to vote for the Democratic Party candidate whoever that might be. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? The Democrats are right to ignore those voices and focus on beating rapist Trump.

Democrats took all of the necessary steps to ensure Harris was chosen by party insiders and not primary voters. Do you know how ridiculous defending that sounds?

It's pointless to discuss this with you. You keep gaslighting me and ignoring my legitimate complaints about the fake primary and Biden's mental decline being covered up.

Democrats are every bit as corrupt and undemocratic as their Republican counterparts. No amount of gaslighting will convince me otherwise.

 

[Frank Underwood]

Black Lives Matter Denounces Democrats for 'Anointing' Kamala Harris​

Black Lives Matter has criticized the Democratic Party for "anointing" Vice President Kamala Harris as the expected Democrat presidential nominee without a public vote.

President Joe Biden announced on Sunday that he was leaving the presidential race and endorsed Harris to replace him at the top of the Democratic ticket to face Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, in November. Biden had faced pressure to step aside after a disastrous debate performance last month magnified concerns about the 81-year-old's age and ability to beat Trump and serve a second term.

By Monday evening, Harris had secured the support of enough Democratic delegates to become her party's nominee, The Associated Press reported.

Responding to the development, Black Lives Matter criticized Democrats for not giving voters a say—and called on the Democratic National Committee to host a virtual snap primary ahead of the party's convention in August. Newsweek has contacted Black Lives Matter, the Harris campaign and the DNC for comment via email.

"Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public," Black Lives Matter said in a statement.

"This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values."

The organization added: "We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Any attempt to evade or override the will of voters in our primary system—no matter how historic the candidate—must be condemned. We demand an informal, virtual snap primary now that the incumbent president is no longer in the running."

Harris is the first woman, Black person and person of South Asian descent to serve as vice president. If she becomes the Democratic nominee and defeats Trump in November, she would be the first woman to serve as president.

Black Lives Matter said any process that does not include voters could undermine Harris, or another Democrat, if they win the White House in November.

"Let us be clear: This is about the Democratic Party following a process that protects the legitimacy of any future Democratic president following this unprecedented moment," the statement said.

"Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites. It would undermine their credibility on issues related to democracy.

"Imagine our first Black woman president not having won some sort of public nomination process. The pundits would immediately label it as affirmative action or a DEI [diversity, equity and inclusion] move, and any progress made by a President Harris would be on shaky foundations. If Kamala Harris is to be the nominee, it must be through a process that upholds democratic principles and public participation."

Some Republicans have already sought to cast Harris as a DEI hire.

"The incompetency level is at an all-time high in Washington. The media propped up this president, lied to the American people for three years, and then dumped him for our DEI vice president," Representative Tim Burchett of Tennessee wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Monday.

Source: Black Lives Matter Denounces Democrats for 'Anointing' Kamala Harris - Newsweek

 

[KayLloyd]

The only people getting their knickers in a twist about the process by which the Democrats are choosing their Presidential nominee are people who never had any intention of voting for them. Meanwhile, the Democrats have united behind Kamala and getting on with the business of beating Trump who is now so rattled he is trying to get out of debating with her.

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Nice try, but Trump has said that if Harris is the nominee when the convention plays out, he will debate her. Why in the world would he ever agree to debate someone who hasn't even been officially declared the nominee yet? And a more appropriate cartoon would be Kammie running backwards singing "It Wasn't Me".

 

[KayLloyd]

Well, the Obamas have endorsed her now.

This is cute.

In a pre-recorded call that Michelle made Barry make. He sounded like the cheating husband who got caught and had to call the mistress with the wife on the line to tell her that he is staying with the wife to work things out. It wasn't on video so you couldn't see the expression on his face

 

[Frank Underwood]

Nice try, but Trump has said that if Harris is the nominee when the convention plays out, he will debate her. Why in the world would he ever agree to debate someone who hasn't even been officially declared the nominee yet?

Yes, especially since Trump was tricked into debating Biden last month before he had been officially declared the nominee. Then the Dems pulled a switcheroo as planned.

Not only was last month's debate the earliest to occur in history, but it was also the first to take place before either party had held their convention. Prior to the debate, the Dems hid Biden's deteriorating condition, held a fake, non-competitive primary, and then used the debate as an excuse to drop Biden and anoint Harris. Now Dems who said that Trump was a threat to democracy for four years are having to tie themselves up in knots defending the coronation of Harris. Many of them are outright gaslighting people.

No matter what they say, there is nothing democratic about the way Harris ended up with the nomination.

 

[Angela Channing]

Nice try, but Trump has said that if Harris is the nominee when the convention plays out, he will debate her. Why in the world would he ever agree to debate someone who hasn't even been officially declared the nominee yet? And a more appropriate cartoon would be Kammie running backwards singing "It Wasn't Me".

As Kamala said "Whatever happened to any time, any place?"

Donald Trump won’t debate Kamala Harris for two very flawed reasons

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has been given the rather unfortunate nickname of ‘Donald Duck’ after he ruled out a televised debate with Kamala Harris, the current vice president whose campaign to nab the top job held by Joe Biden has come with countless Charli XCX brat...

www.indy100.com

 

[Angela Channing]

Black Lives Matter Denounces Democrats for 'Anointing' Kamala Harris​

Black Lives Matter has criticized the Democratic Party for "anointing" Vice President Kamala Harris as the expected Democrat presidential nominee without a public vote.

President Joe Biden announced on Sunday that he was leaving the presidential race and endorsed Harris to replace him at the top of the Democratic ticket to face Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, in November. Biden had faced pressure to step aside after a disastrous debate performance last month magnified concerns about the 81-year-old's age and ability to beat Trump and serve a second term.

By Monday evening, Harris had secured the support of enough Democratic delegates to become her party's nominee, The Associated Press reported.

Responding to the development, Black Lives Matter criticized Democrats for not giving voters a say—and called on the Democratic National Committee to host a virtual snap primary ahead of the party's convention in August. Newsweek has contacted Black Lives Matter, the Harris campaign and the DNC for comment via email.

"Democratic Party elites and billionaire donors are attempting to manipulate Black voters by anointing Kamala Harris and an unknown vice president as the new Democratic ticket without a primary vote by the public," Black Lives Matter said in a statement.

"This blatant disregard for democratic principles is unacceptable. While the potential outcome of a Harris presidency may be historic, the process to achieve it must align with true democratic values."

The organization added: "We do not live in a dictatorship. Delegates are not oligarchs. Any attempt to evade or override the will of voters in our primary system—no matter how historic the candidate—must be condemned. We demand an informal, virtual snap primary now that the incumbent president is no longer in the running."

Harris is the first woman, Black person and person of South Asian descent to serve as vice president. If she becomes the Democratic nominee and defeats Trump in November, she would be the first woman to serve as president.

Black Lives Matter said any process that does not include voters could undermine Harris, or another Democrat, if they win the White House in November.

"Let us be clear: This is about the Democratic Party following a process that protects the legitimacy of any future Democratic president following this unprecedented moment," the statement said.

"Installing Kamala Harris as the Democratic nominee and an unknown vice president without any public voting process would make the modern Democratic Party a party of hypocrites. It would undermine their credibility on issues related to democracy.

"Imagine our first Black woman president not having won some sort of public nomination process. The pundits would immediately label it as affirmative action or a DEI [diversity, equity and inclusion] move, and any progress made by a President Harris would be on shaky foundations. If Kamala Harris is to be the nominee, it must be through a process that upholds democratic principles and public participation."

Some Republicans have already sought to cast Harris as a DEI hire.

"The incompetency level is at an all-time high in Washington. The media propped up this president, lied to the American people for three years, and then dumped him for our DEI vice president," Representative Tim Burchett of Tennessee wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Monday.

Source: Black Lives Matter Denounces Democrats for 'Anointing' Kamala Harris - Newsweek

My question still stands, who is supposed to stand against Kamala when all her potential serious rivals support her candidacy? There can't be a contest if no one wants to stand against her. What would be undemocratic would be running a fake contest where everyone knows what the outcome would be just to please critics.

 

[Frank Underwood]

My question still stands, who is supposed to stand against Kamala when all her potential serious rivals support her candidacy? There can't be a contest if no one wants to stand against her. What would be undemocratic would be running a fake contest where everyone knows what the outcome would be just to please critics.

They already ran a fake contest, so now the delegates get to select Harris. This left Biden's primary challengers Marianne Williamson and Dean Philips out in the cold.

Voters don't get a say in who the Democratic Party's nominee for president is, and that was done deliberately. There's nothing democratic about this, period.

I'm glad that a pro-Democratic Party activist group like BLM is calling out the anointing of Harris for what it is. You certainly can't accuse them of being "right wing critics."

 

[Frank Underwood]

As Kamala said "Whatever happened to any time, any place?"

Donald Trump won’t debate Kamala Harris for two very flawed reasons

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has been given the rather unfortunate nickname of ‘Donald Duck’ after he ruled out a televised debate with Kamala Harris, the current vice president whose campaign to nab the top job held by Joe Biden has come with countless Charli XCX brat...

www.indy100.com

What an odd thing to focus on. Yes, Trump debated Biden before he was declared the nominee at the Democratic National Convention, and it was a huge mistake. By revealing Biden's mental decline to the public before the convention, the Dems were able to swap him out with Harris. There's no incentive to debating another unconfirmed nominee.

Trump's "any time, any place" comment was also intended specifically for Biden, so Harris and the Dems are being deceptive as usual. If she's confirmed, he'll debate her.

 

[Angela Channing]

What an odd thing to focus on. Yes, Trump debated Biden before he was declared the nominee at the Democratic National Convention, and it was a huge mistake. By revealing Biden's mental decline to the public before the convention, the Dems were able to swap him out with Harris. There's no incentive to debating another unconfirmed nominee.

Trump's "any time, any place" comment was also intended specifically for Biden, so Harris and the Dems are being deceptive as usual. If she's confirmed, he'll debate her.

Republicans:
The Democrats have stitched this up so Kamala will definitely be their party's nominee.

Also Republicans:
Trump will refuse to debate with Kamala until she's definitely their party's nominee.