Why has Grey's Anatomy succeeded where 80s soaps failed?

Gatsbyesque

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Thank you, both.

I'm talking mostly creative. But I didn't know the ratings had held up so well. I'm one of the people who stopped watching Grey's and I assumed everyone did, too, when the creator came out with two more shows that seem to get far more attention. It does better than the other two shows. gasp So they're given platform because of Grey's, and not the other way round.

My bad!
 

bmasters9

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Ironically I had the reverse experience: I tried to watch a few episodes of ER and found it too boring.
Tell me about it! I got the first-season DVD release of ER a time back (the repackaged 7-disc single-sided version), and found it incredibly unwatchable as well.
 

Rove

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The primetime soaps needed distant/surprise relatives showing up to add some spice and relief from that tired old formula.
Dallas did this by having Jamie Ewing (Jenilee Harrison) sashay up the Southfork drive, while the extended Ewing family were enjoying a brief time of happiness beside the pool. Introducing a new character (out of the blue) can have a surprising effect on already established characters. It can twist the story and family dynamics. And while I did like the idea of another Ewing was added to the mix the casting of Jenilee was a disaster in my opinion. Introducing long lost relatives can work but only if the casting is spot on. My only problem with introducing a new character or family into a soap is suddenly the focus is shifted from our regular characters to the newbies. It's like the writers need to force those characters onto the viewers to quickly establish a rapport, but this often comes across as jarring.
 
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Snarky's Ghost

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Dallas did this by having Jamie Ewing (Jenilee Harrison) sashay up the Southfork drive, while the extended Ewing family were enjoying a brief time of happiness beside the pool. Introducing a new character (out of the blue) can have a surprising effect on already established characters. It can twist the story and family dynamics. And while I did like the idea of another Ewing was added to the mix the casting of Jenilee was a disaster in my opinion. Introducing long lost relatives can work but only if the casting is spot on. My only problem with introducing a new character or family into a soap is suddenly the focus is shifted from our regular characters to the newbies. It's like the writers need to force those characters onto the viewers to quickly establish a rapport, but this often comes across as jarring.
Oh, boy, you reeeeeeeally mention Jenilee a lot. You must really hate her! :lol:
 

tommie

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Dallas did this by having Jamie Ewing (Jenilee Harrison) sashay up the Southfork drive, while the extended Ewing family were enjoying a brief time of happiness beside the pool. Introducing a new character (out of the blue) can have a surprising effect on already established characters. It can twist the story and family dynamics. And while I did like the idea of another Ewing was added to the mix the casting of Jenilee was a disaster in my opinion. Introducing long lost relatives can work but only if the casting is spot on. My only problem with introducing a new character or family into a soap is suddenly the focus is shifted from our regular characters to the newbies. It's like the writers need to force those characters onto the viewers to quickly establish a rapport, but this often comes across as jarring.
It can work maybe once, maybe twice... but beyond that is entering daytime soap territory. At one point you'd just have the original characters go "Oh, another one? Anyone for vodka shots" (Sue Ellen: "Me!!!!")
 

Rove

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It can work maybe once, maybe twice... but beyond that is entering daytime soap territory. At one point you'd just have the original characters go "Oh, another one? Anyone for vodka shots" (Sue Ellen: "Me!!!!")
Introducing a long lost brother, sister, son or daughter is stale nowadays. Anytime a series tries this old chestnut is when I pull the plug. Lazy writing in my opinion, as if this scenario hasn't been done a million times. As another poster (Snarky?) rightfully pointed out. When Dallas introduced James Beaumont so late in the series the shock value was not there. Introducing another child of JR's early in the series could have worked a treat, as it would have unbalanced the Ewing household.
 

Snarky's Ghost

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Introducing a long lost brother, sister, son or daughter is stale nowadays. Anytime a series tries this old chestnut is when I pull the plug. Lazy writing in my opinion, as if this scenario hasn't been done a million times. As another poster (Snarky?) rightfully pointed out. When Dallas introduced James Beaumont so late in the series the shock value was not there. Introducing another child of JR's early in the series could have worked a treat, as it would have unbalanced the Ewing household.
Complicated by the fact the Sasha Mitchell just didn't fit the show.
 

Rove

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More complicated by the fact that he just can't act.
As I said in another thread. I'll say no mean things regarding Sasha since I discovered how huge the guy is. He was wonderful on Step By Step. His abilities in acting fitted the character of Cody brilliantly. ;)
 
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