Jimmy Todd
Telly Talk Star
i really liked Steve Forrest on the show, just not as Jock. If they had made him an antagonist fkr rhe Ewings in another way that would have been wonderful.
Ubiquitous?
But that would have made him just another adversary. The Wes Parmalee plotline, though inevitably controversial, was at its heart what DALLAS was all about.i really liked Steve Forrest on the show, just not as Jock. If they had made him an antagonist fkr rhe Ewings in another way that would have been wonderful.
Indeed....oddly, as I type this I'm watching Ellie discovering the buckle, knife & letters - how bizarre is that!But that would have made him just another adversary. The Wes Parmalee plotline, though inevitably controversial, was at its heart what DALLAS was all about.
We even have a thread about it, one started by pete lashmar:
http://soapchat.net/threads/wes-parmalee-story-with-hindsight.3172/
All he really learned was that there had been another man on the helicopter. In no way was it proven which was which.It was dropped? Bobby had come back from South America having learned that Parmalee was Wyatt Hanes, she had said goodbye to Ellie and left town.....so other than seeing him tried in court and sent to prison there wasn't much more they could have done with the storyline at the time they ended it.
All he really learned was that there had been another man on the helicopter. In no way was it proven which was which.
All he really learned was that there had been another man on the helicopter. In no way was it proven which was which.
They had finished filming the story before the plotline had a chance to air, so they couldn't have been responding to the audience's reaction. And besides, not everyone hated it.
It was mostly wrapped up but, yes, it seemed to end in a rather sudden way -- but Steve Forrest had to go film a GUNSMOKE reunion movie, and the Wes Parmalee plotline was an intentionally ambivalent one that was meant to leave us hanging and not have anything completely explained away, so the viewer could believe he was or wasn't Jock depending on what we wanted.
Because it may have been a false confession. The show tossed out a lot of red herring to allow viewers to choose whatever they wanted to believe. That's what made the Wes Parmalee plot almost Shakespearean. It wasn't a "stupid plot", it was almost brilliant if bizarre.Parmalee confessed he was a fraud anyway, so what difference does it make?
Or, it would seem, overrate it.One thing you never want to do is insult the intelligence of your audience.
Or, it would seem, overrate it.
Some won't … appreciate it.Overrating the intelligence of the audience of your show is bad? Tell me what you think is the negative consequence of setting the bar high.
Pity they just didnt do a DNA sample on Wes and match it with the boys! Simple! end of speculation!!
Some won't … appreciate it.
Watching it all over again in my re-watch and boy Jock must have rambled on and on and on - Wes has just told Sue Ellen about Cliff being the possible father of John Ross, Punk said only 2 people know what was said in the helicopter - him and Jock Ewing - but it's still the fact that he recognises people on sight. The execs may not have plotted for him to be Jock but sorry, all the evidence points to the fact he was - they overcooked the pudding on this one IMO and ran away very quickly.
But in the age of DVDs and repeats, Wes most definitely comes across as being the genuine Jock Ewing IMO.
I’d pay good money to see footage of Jim Davis as a fever-stricken Jock rambling for hours upon hours, telling the Ewing backstory and random details from all the previous seasons!
Seems to concern you.Does that concern you?
They may very well have used the same surgeon for Pam.Kenny Coyote said:When they want the audience to believe this man could be Jock despite having a completely different build than Jock did, how do they expect the audience to ignore that? Are we supposed to believe his entire skeleton shrank? The man looked younger than Jock did in 1978. He had no visible burn scars despite supposedly having been terribly over most of his body. That tells the audience they didn't try.
They should have gotten Parmalee's surgeon for Pam. Then she wouldn't have had to run away and abandon her family because she had so many burn scars. Apparently, according to the people responsible for that time period in Dallas, they have better plastic surgeons in the jungles of Colombia than in Texas.
Especially if because of the fever, he told the backstory including secrets that he normally wouldn't tell. Secrets that J.R. and Bobby wouldn't even know.
It would put a whole new perspective on a re-watching of the series.
I don't really care what they intended. On screen it's ambiguous at best.They say on the DVD special features they never intended to have him turn out to be Jock.
That's irrelevant to me. Call it poor casting if you want but the differences between the two actors have no bearing on the story.despite having a completely different build than Jock did,