What was the single most destructive flaw in DYNASTY ?

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I honestly wouldn’t change a thing. You all have valid points but I loved the show from beginning to end despite its flaws.

I just hope I’m still allowed to post here after saying that.

Someone should ban him for saying that!

He loves Dynasty. Nobody should ever admit that if they wanna keep their sanity!!

 

[DallasFanForever]

He loves Dynasty. Nobody should ever admit that if they wanna keep their sanity!!

Well, it’s really Emma Samms’s fault cause she’s the reason I started watching in the first place. Now what Dynasty fan would say that?

So yes, I guess my sanity can get called into question here.

 

[Chris2]

It was all the royal crap, and the constant changes to the lineup of Carrington kids: several long lost children and multiple recasts.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Well, it’s really Emma Samms’s fault cause she’s the reason I started watching in the first place. Now what Dynasty fan would say that?

So yes, I guess my sanity can get called into question here.

Your sanity is as sane as mine!

There's nothing wrong with being a fan of Dynasty and The Colby's.

Two great shows in my opinion.

 

[Laurie Marr]

The careless, slipshod and lazy plotting. Characters introduced with fanfares but who invariably had nothing to do, stories that fizzled out almost as soon as they got going, fighting talk and operatic bombast without adequate payoff etc. etc. All of which can be summarised in the oft quoted observation that ‘they made it up as they went along.’ Even with a rock solid opening two seasons, a stellar cast and eye popping production values, no one exercised a duty of care to the storytelling.

 

[Zara]

I honestly wouldn’t change a thing. You all have valid points but I loved the show from beginning to end despite its flaws.

I just hope I’m still allowed to post here after saying that.

I totally agree.


Sure, we would still be sitting here 40 years later if Blake had juggled 10 different women and from time to time deflowered them and given them real flowers the day after, and Krystle turning to an even more nervous crying wreck with a Krystina doll and a wine bottle beside her bed, and Alexis drenched her penthouse in bleach to cover up the Morgan Hess murder which proved to be committed by her Asian major domo.

But it would have been so soap mundane. Something to do and watch without any real logic, and love.

When it all boils down; Dynasty was perfect in its own universum, separated from other soaps. With wasn't easy in the power-80s.

Even if I could have lived without the Rita-storyline. And have the writers explain inconsistencies.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

The real problem with Dynasty was as soon as something good happened they brought up the ruddy end credits!

Week after week it was the same!

Mind you The Colby's and Dallas did it too!

 

[Artur]

That is how Pamela Sue Martin looked like in 1987
That could have been the original Fallon seeing the spaceship scene

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

The ongoing problem with the static acting directive was that it gave an "off" or dumbish vibe even to scenes which were relatively well-written.

 

[Luke Fuller]

1. All Rita Leslie / Joel Abrigore / Krystle in the attic plotline. 2. Re-casting of main characters, especially Fallon. 3. Deleting Amanda from the history. 4. Sarah Curtis as a main character for long nine episodes. 5. Sammy Jo as a good girl, including a new partnership with Steven. 6. Blake as a bad guy (a copy of J. R.). 7. Marriage of Adam and Claudia (lasted too long with almost nothing to do with almost no interaction with a family). 8. Lindsay is crying. 9. Ben's quick transition into a good guy. 10. Lobotomy of Krystle. On the contrary, I must defend Moldavian massacre, Kirby and Peter de Vilbis

 

[colbyco]

Like wrote before they had a great cast and were good in introducing them
but after some time the writers didn´t know what to do with them (that even includes leading lady Krystle).
They only knew Alexis has to be evil and Blake has to be her enemy.
Nobody was allowed to be good as Krystle or bad as Alexis (like Deoborah Adair said).
Because Alexis was the number 1 b*tch no female enemy had a real chance (Caress, Dominique, Sammy Jo) -until S9!

It´s a show about missed chances. They had gold but didn´t know how to handle it more than to shine ...
Imagine the Aftermath was handled rightly (lots of blood, dead people, really hurt Carringtons), Caress publicing her book and beeing a rival like Sable,
Ben not becomming the good uncle (instead he blackmails Alexis to marry him), not firing Oxenberg (S7 having the most good looking triangle Sammy Jo/Clay/Amanda ever), Alexis telling she is pregant after "A love remembered" - Krystle starts drinking and catfights Alexis - after that Alexis tells she lost her baby, Caress finds dirt in Australia about Ben ....

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

In this definitive scene from Season 2, Krystle leans casually against the loveseat at one point -- so graceful and natural and unthinkable later on...

 

[ClassyCo]

For me, I'd probably say the follow-up to the Moldavia cliffhanger. Up until the start of the sixth season -- and despite the changes in tone and dip in quality -- I could jive with literally everything DYNASTY did. Sure, it was campy trash, a guilty pleasure if you will, but there is very little I'd change. Of course, some of the actors (i.e. Kathleen Beller and Geoffrey Scott) could've been done without, but there were some real iconic moments in the show prior to the Moldavia fiasco. If the producers weren't willing to take risks -- and it's obvious they weren't -- then the massacre shouldn't have taken place. I mean, they could've killed Steven in the massacre, and that would've been a little more shocking than having Lady Ashley and Luke die. I mean, literally anyone with some "weight" in the plotlines could've died in an effort to shake things up. But the producers weren't willing to rock the status quo.

As for the cliffhanger itself, I thought it was quintessentially a hyped-up season finale done right.

 

[colbyco]

That´s right some important had to die ... so I would have introduced "The Colbys" earlier to kill half the family and Sable thinking Alexis dealt with the soldiers she moves to Denver with Miles and wants revenge. "The Fallmonts" would have become the spin-off - much more different like "KL" was more different from "Dallas".
5 weeks before the wedding Brady is back with Jackie both travel with Dominique to Moldavia and die - maybe even Dominique. Claudia dies. Blake needs a emergency operation. Dex sits in a wheelchair for some weeks. Krystle is dead (the fake one - the real one was kidnapped just before the wedding - even the viewers aren´t sure which one got killed!).

and after Collins didn´t appear for shooting - take it as a creative sign from god and didn´t show her for 3 weeks (no opening credit and fake scripts about her furneral that some yellow press magazines will find) .... make a bang! After 3 weeks when Sable sits close to Blake´s bed in hospital dreaming of becoming the next Mrs Carrington (after Jason and Conny died Colby Enterprises did collapse, Sable is in sorrow to save her lifestyle) both Alexis and Krystle show up!

 

[rayray]

It's interesting that they killed Cecil Colby earlier on, when his death generated story (even though his continued presence could also have generated great stories as well.) When the massacre came around, multiple story-generating deaths were possible, but they went safe and killed dead-end characters (since they weren't going to take risks with the gay couple storyline, and Ali McGraw's character had nowhere to go story-wise.)

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

It's interesting that they killed Cecil Colby earlier on, when his death generated story (even though his continued presence could also have generated great stories as well.) When the massacre came around, multiple story-generating deaths were possible, but they went safe and killed dead-end characters (since they weren't going to take risks with the gay couple storyline, and Ali McGraw's character had nowhere to go story-wise.)

Apparently that didn't go down too well with the actor.

Lloyd Bochner was under the impression that he'd be on Dynasty for quite a while as Cecil Colby.

 

[ClassyCo]

I really liked Cecil Colby and actor Lloyd Bochner. I thought his voice and his look was well-suited for DYNASTY. He had a good rivalry with Blake and I enjoyed his romance with Alexis.

When Bochner read the script and saw where Cecil was to suffer a heart attack, he presented the writers and producers questions about the future of his character. Quite simply, the actor was searching for affirmation that Cecil was not to die, which was originally confirmed. But, as Bocher later said, there was "miscommunication somewhere" and Cecil did ultimately pass shortly after marrying Alexis at the start of Season 3.

Producers apparently wanted a "hunkier" love interest for Alexis, thus the forthcoming entrance of Michael Nader as Dex.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I really liked Cecil Colby and actor Lloyd Bochner. I thought his voice and his look was well-suited for DYNASTY. He had a good rivalry with Blake and I enjoyed his romance with Alexis.

When Bochner read the script and saw where Cecil was to suffer a heart attack, he presented the writers and producers questions about the future of his character. Quite simply, the actor was searching for affirmation that Cecil was not to die, which was originally confirmed. But, as Bocher later said, there was "miscommunication somewhere" and Cecil did ultimately pass shortly after marrying Alexis at the start of Season 3.

Producers apparently wanted a "hunkier" love interest for Alexis, thus the forthcoming entrance of Michael Nader as Dex.

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And they certainly got that with Michael Nader.

As a gay male I can confirm that Michael Nader was quite simply sex on legs!

 

[colbyco]

It's interesting that they killed Cecil Colby earlier on, when his death generated story (even though his continued presence could also have generated great stories as well.) When the massacre came around, multiple story-generating deaths were possible, but they went safe and killed dead-end characters (since they weren't going to take risks with the gay couple storyline, and Ali McGraw's character had nowhere to go story-wise.)

- the problem is the show made big "events" but nearly nothing had a consequence!
* Moldavia ... nobody was really hurt! Nobody had nightmares later! Nobody need to go to a psychiatrist later.
* Krystle was kidnapped for weeks .... where were the nightmares when she was back home. Just a little upset scene with Steven and 2 scenes with Blake. 2 episodes later it was like nothing happened.
* Claudia died ... she was married to Adam & Steven, stepmother to Danny, she was there since the pilot - she didn´t even got a furneral (I know producers were happy when she was gone - but they should thought about how they damage the show)
* Blake did spent some days alone with Alexis ... Blake saying nothing happened and everything was ok. Krystle was jealous for 5 seconds only.
* Steven killed Matthew. He spoke with Alexis and had the scene with the car "I will and can survive in this world" ... 1 episode later killing a man/ a former friend / an ex husband of his ex wife hadn´t any impact on him!

At least Krystle should have start drinking after hold hostage in Moldavia, kidnapped for weeks, loosing the mansion, Blake arrested for murder, Blakes and Alexis home alone, Krystina´s heart problem, her ex lover Matthew got killed in front of her .... no nightmares! NOTHING! and mostly her character had nothing to do!
One of this "events" would be enough for Sue Ellen to drink down half Texas ...

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Apparently that didn't go down too well with the actor.

Lloyd Bochner was under the impression that he'd be on Dynasty for quite a while as Cecil Colby.

Lloyd Bochner was an excellent actor who worked on lots of stuff.
Surely Dynasty could have kept such a skilled actor in some capacity