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Baywatch owns the distinctive of being the most highly viewed television series in the history of the medium, according to Wikipedia. Its initial network run on NBC generated mixed reviews and even less impressive Nielsen ratings; it was 73rd out of 103 shows, and was cancelled after 21 episodes in 1990.

After overseas markets were apparently eager to cash-in on the David Hasselhoff craze, producers sold the series into syndication, where it lasted until 2001, producing another 221 episodes. The series brought in record-breaking ratings for an off-network episodic television show, and made household names out of many of its cast members, such as Pamela Anderson and Carmen Electra, among a host of others.

Despite its public popularity, however, critics were never kind to Baywatch, especially after it started airing in syndication. Critics, TV historians, commercial writers, etc. critiqued the show's strong emphasis on skin over plot, and complained that the actors chosen were picked more for their picturesque physical attributes than their dramatic capabilities. (In fact, many of the cast members were cast without having any prior professional acting experience.) There were also considerable complaints to the content of the show itself; there were concerns over the actors projecting an archetypal body type that was unrealistic when compared to everyday American teens, the show's largest audience demographic.

The syndication market became increasingly crowded, and because of escalating budgets, Baywatch drew to a close in 2001.

What's your thoughts on the show?

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I prefer the remake...:cool1

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I haven't seen the remake yet so I can't comment on it.

I remember watching the first couple of seasons of Baywatch but lost interest thereafter. I can't say I disliked it, but it didn't really capture the imagination in terms of storylines.

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Gosh, I actually liked to watch this crap back in the day, but in hindsight it was just terrible in every way.

Poor Stephanie/Alexandra Paul - she was killed off wasn't she? And she was the one woman who realistically looked like she could be a lifeguard.
 

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Gosh, I actually liked to watch this crap back in the day, but in hindsight it was just terrible in every way.

Poor Stephanie/Alexandra Paul - she was killed off wasn't she? And she was the one woman who realistically looked like she could be a lifeguard.
Alexandra Paul jokes that she was the "smart one" simply because she had short brown hair and was an athletic woman with smaller breasts. Apparently, the producers were fairly open about their thoughts on Paul; they didn't find her as sexy as the other women in the cast, but they also felt that her considerably better acting capabilities gave the show a sense of credibility that it wasn't all fluff, skin, and musical montages.

As I understand it, Paul wanted a clear cut off the show. She didn't want anything left unsaid; she wanted the audience to know she wasn't coming back. The producers, however, weren't wanting her to go. They reasoned that the mutual actor-producer decision to kill off actress Shawn Weatherly in the initial network season apparently devastated the audience, and the producers didn't wanted to do the same with audience favorite Paul.

She didn't care. She wanted out. And so she died.
 

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I've never been tempted to watch an episode, but I wasn't the target audience anyway.

I only recently discovered that John Palmer was in the first season.


I did watch the first season when it originally aired here, but at that point I hadn't watched early S&D, so I never made the connection.
 

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Yours truly got a subscription to Hulu earlier this week, and as it turns out, the entire series of Baywatch is right at my fingertips in a beautifully remastered form.
 

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The remastered format looks really good and it's in 16:9. Some of the music obviously is replaced for licensing rights I assume (they did that for the digital version of US Queer as Folk too, sadly some parts with very generic sounding themes, also 16:9 btw). But seeing Billy Warlock, David Charvet, David Chokachi or Michael Bergin in those montage clips running at the beach in speedos is my travel back into innocent times of my late youth. :)

While the acting is sometimes bad (rookie lifeguard Manny probably the worst), some are decent (David Hasselhoff, John Allen Nelson and David Chokachi do their self-ironic style rather good) and some episodes have really excellent guest-stars: my highlight is Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa in S2E13 "War of Nerves" as villain Mason Soto. Tagawa is also brilliant in The Man in the High Castle. Rib Hillis delivers a good performance in the two-parter "Baywatch Down Under" filmed in Australia (S9E16+17), which supposedly was a set-up for the next season until they went for Hawaii instead (Baywatch Hawaii, S10+11, has a slight more modern feel and introduced an entertaining Jason Momoa)

While the males are often seen obviously doing some of their stunts themselves the females are usually running at the beach, jumping in the water and next they're somewhere in the water saving people. It seems they had problems to swim a few metres (single exception: Alexandra Paul). One supporting player, Michael Newman, who was in all seasons of Baywatch as Newmie, was a real lifeguard and his stunts are visually the best. But it's just bizarre if you see Pamela Anderson saving someone with her long hair extensions and those superlong fingernails that would make it impossible in real life to perform what she does on-screen... There is an excellent parody by Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders illustrating what I mean:


While I don't understand the critic about the "body type" actors had for this show - it was about lifeguards and not farmers, secretaries or whatever - I've never read a compliment to the series for including that many older actors. Aside from many veteran actors as guests, Richard Jaeckel and Monte Markham (Clint Ogden in Dallas) appeared in it for a few seasons and Anne Jeffreys often guest starred as Hasselhoff's mother (The Colby's Joseph Campanella played his father). Baywatch also had surprisingly many episodes with handicapped people (mentally and physically disabled), more than I've seen in other TV shows during the show's era. To me that was more than a counter-balance to the fit and beautiful guys and girls. And frankly: who wants to see obese people in swimsuits?
 
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Baywatch: Hawaii , Seasons 10+11 (1999-2001), are now also available in remastered format (16:9) on Blu-Ray, Hulu and Amazon Prime. In some episodes a few scenes were obviously not available in filmed material but only in video quality. That affects some action scenes on water but none at the beach or interior shots. But this is only evident in a handful of episodes while most looks really good. In general I recommend Baywatch: Hawaii as a relaunch that actually improved a lot on storytelling and delivering new visual ideas to combine the beautiful locations shoots with action elements. Maurice Hurley who was a writer and supervising producer on The Equalizer (1985-86), a co-executive producer on Star Trek- The Next Generation (1987-89) and the ill-fated Baywatch Nights (1996-97) became the co-executive producer for Baywatch: Hawaii's entire run and I think he injected the right amount of fresh creativity. (Yes, I know he was also an asshole to the beloved Gates McFadden.)

The Hoff aka Mitch is only appearing in a few episodes in Season 10 (with one guest appearance of Jeremy Jackson as Hobie) and it's better without him - Mitch has a mid-life crisis and the Hoff started to overact while speaking with a James Coburn voice... Newmie is also recurring in Season 10.

Michael Bergin as J.D. is the only lifeguard who transferred from Malibu (he debuted in Season 8) to Hawaii and stays until the end of the series. While Bergin is very athletic and a good swimmer he's also the weakest link as an actor. He's barely able to raise his rather soft voice in dramatic scenes. Brooke Burns as Jessie from Season 9 is in most episodes of Season 10 but only recurring in Season 11 and not in the final two episodes.

Simmone Mackinnon who appeared in the Season 9 two-parter filmed in Australia reprises her role as Allie Reese through Season 10 but isn't in Season 11. I really didn't care for the other females... except that I noticed they were better swimmers than the women in the original format.

From his first scene on in Episode 1 of Season 10 Jason Momoa is especially charming. For a young guy he has an interesting presence despite the light material. Jason Brooks plays Sean Monroe, the head of the Baywatch lifeguard training center in Oahu and I prefer him over The Hoff. Guest-actors include Catherine Oxenberg (Dynasty), Tom Arnold (True Lies), Anson Williams (Happy Days), Corbin Bernsen (L.A. Law), Scott Gurney (The Fluffer), William Gregory Lee (Dante's Cove) and the late Pat Morita (Karate Kid).

 

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Baywatch: Hawaii , Seasons 10+11 (1999-2001), are now also available in remastered format (16:9) on Blu-Ray, Hulu and Amazon Prime. In some episodes a few scenes were obviously not available in filmed material but only in video quality. That affects some action scenes on water but none at the beach or interior shots. But this is only evident in a handful of episodes while most looks really good. In general I recommend Baywatch: Hawaii as a relaunch that actually improved a lot on storytelling and delivering new visual ideas to combine the beautiful locations shoots with action elements. Maurice Hurley who was a writer and supervising producer on The Equalizer (1985-86), a co-executive producer on Star Trek- The Next Generation (1987-89) and the ill-fated Baywatch Nights (1996-97) became the co-executive producer for Baywatch: Hawaii's entire run and I think he injected the right amount of fresh creativity. (Yes, I know he was also an asshole to the beloved Gates McFadden.)

The Hoff aka Mitch is only appearing in a few episodes in Season 10 (with one guest appearance of Jeremy Jackson as Hobie) and it's better without him - Mitch has a mid-life crisis and the Hoff started to overact while speaking with a James Coburn voice... Newmie is also recurring in Season 10.

Michael Bergin as J.D. is the only lifeguard who transferred from Malibu (he debuted in Season 8) to Hawaii and stays until the end of the series. While Bergin is very athletic and a good swimmer he's also the weakest link as an actor. He's barely able to raise his rather soft voice in dramatic scenes. Brooke Burns as Jessie from Season 9 is in most episodes of Season 10 but only recurring in Season 11 and not in the final two episodes.

Simmone Mackinnon who appeared in the Season 9 two-parter filmed in Australia reprises her role as Allie Reese through Season 10 but isn't in Season 11. I really didn't care for the other females... except that I noticed they were better swimmers than the women in the original format.

From his first scene on in Episode 1 of Season 10 Jason Momoa is especially charming. For a young guy he has an interesting presence despite the light material. Jason Brooks plays Sean Monroe, the head of the Baywatch lifeguard training center in Oahu and I prefer him over The Hoff. Guest-actors include Catherine Oxenberg (Dynasty), Tom Arnold (True Lies), Anson Williams (Happy Days), Corbin Bernsen (L.A. Law), Scott Gurney (The Fluffer), William Gregory Lee (Dante's Cove) and the late Pat Morita (Karate Kid).

I thought the BAYWATCH: HAWAII episodes had already been on Hulu, but evidently I was mistaken. I had only watched the first four or five episodes before I stopped.​
 

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What’s funny is that Alexandra Paul was happy to return for the 2003 reunion movie, despite her complaints.

The first few seasons aren’t bad if you’re looking for fun, escapist show. Everyone was pretty good looking with a few real beauties (Shawn Weatherly, Erika Eleniak) but all had reasonable acting skills and screen presence. By season 3, it was clear they were going more for eye candy and underwear models, some of whom were really bad actors, like that block of wood David Charvet. It was all downhill from there.
 

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What’s funny is that Alexandra Paul was happy to return for the 2003 reunion movie, despite her complaints.

The first few seasons aren’t bad if you’re looking for fun, escapist show. Everyone was pretty good looking with a few real beauties (Shawn Weatherly, Erika Eleniak) but all had reasonable acting skills and screen presence. By season 3, it was clear they were going more for eye candy and underwear models, some of whom were really bad actors, like that block of wood David Charvet. It was all downhill from there.
One of the later seasons had so many cast credited they had to have some sharing.

The one where Angelica Bridges is in it, just before Schwartz, Berk, Bonann and Hasselhoff committed the 'Baywatch Bloodbath'.
 

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In the new Baywatch series, Stephen Amell takes on the main role as Mitch's son Hobie, who was originally portrayed by Brandon Call and then by Jeremy Jackson.


Stephen Amell is usually successful with series, in which he often gets to undress, like Arrow and Heels. However, when he mostly has to wear clothes, as was recently the case with his lead role in the much-hyped Suits: LA, the show flopped, so the chances of Baywatch being successful are good.
 

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When I watched Baywatch as a kid in the 90s, it seemed like the best, serious dramatic, most amazing, fabulous show ever. The cast, the setting, the theme song, exciting things happening on the beach.... It was so popular here, just like in most of the world I guess. We even loved Baywatch Nights. So for the longest time my memory of Baywatch was like this, that pure TV fantasy moment in time that just stuck with me.

BUT... then I checked it out as an adult and I was shocked at how laughable it was. It was somehow sad to have one's fantasy ruined like that. I couldn't find any redeeming qualities about it. I can't remember what season or part of it I watched at that moment, probably some of the middle with the best known cast, Pam was in it of course. Maybe I would find it better if I watched it now again, after the bubble has burst.

Also, for some reason, I always thought it was Jamie Lee Curtis that played Stephanie Holden, despite clearly seeing someone else's name in the titles, every day.... :D I guess it was my own, personal Mandella Effect moment. Then, as an adult, I realized it was someone called Alexandra Paul in the role. That was a let down as well, the memory of a Hollywood actress/royalty like Curtis on Baywatch was much more satisfying.



 
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