I'm tempted to start another thread asking these very things and/or change the title of this thread now we're a bit further down the line @Angela Channing ?Not sure if this has been asked yet but even though I live here in the US I find this topic fascinating. A couple of questions:
What was the point in the UK leaving the EU after almost 50 years? How was this sold to you, its citizens?
And also is the UK still the only country to date to leave the EU for Brexit? If so then obviously this part is very telling. Again, thanks for the feedback as this is something I never see discussed over here obviously.
By all means start a new thread where we can discuss the reasons behind Brexit and any positives that people think have come from us leaving the EU.
There was no point and it's just been one disaster after another since we left.What was the point in the UK leaving the EU after almost 50 years?
Those who campaigned for us to leave the EU tapped into the racism and xenophobia that exists in the UK and sold it as a way of stopping foreigners from entering the country. The reality is that more immigration to the UK comes from non EU countries and the EU workers that have come here often do the work that UK citizens won't do: jobs like picking fruit, being a carer or working in hospitality. By contrast, around 1.3 million people born in the UK live in EU countries, many of which were old retirees living in Spain who do not work and therefore don't contribute to the economy of their host country to the same extent as younger EU workers who came here.How was this sold to you, its citizens?
No other country has left the EU, in fact other countries are queuing up to join but they haven't yet meant the economic or human rights tests to be eligible. However, currently Albania, North Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia and Turkey have formally applied to join the EU. Additionally, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Kosovo have indicated that they would like to join.And also is the UK still the only country to date to leave the EU for Brexit?
They should be ashamed, not embarrassed, because all this and more was predicted as being the inevitable consequence of Brexit but they didn't care. We are now a poorer, less influential more expensive and a more xenophobic and racist country as a result of Brexit. That's plenty to be ashamed of causing.
The European Union's trade surplus with UK for the first 7 months 2021, i.e, after the post Brexit trade deal, was €82.1 billion which is significantly up from the same months in 2020 when it was €56.7 billion.
The reason for this is UK exports to the EU has fallen by 17.1%. EU exports to UK grew by 6.2%.
However you look at these figures it's a disaster for UK companies that trade with the EU but less so for EU countries that trade with us. Brexit is killing UK exports which means less tax revenues and fewer jobs here.
I think before that our press had lots of reports from EU travellers to the UK who had to wait for hours in airports because of some rule that strangely doesn't affect travellers outside EU countries. Journalists then wondered why the EU isn't applying the same (non-existing) "rule" to British tourists. Now obviously they do. All on the shoulders of citizens who like to travel and are more likely remainers...Have heard from 2 friends now that the airport experience for British travellers is an absolute nightmare on arrival/leaving EU countries thanks to Brexit. My brother was 3 hours early for a flight to NI out of Denmark and the system is so shambolic (one laptop for all non EU) that he missed his flight.
My brother and I will both be shredding our British passports at the earliest convenience. Utterly ashamed not that I ever classed myself as British anyway, it’s just part of our confusing identity being from Northern Ireland. We voted NO to Brexit but Johnson doesn’t care about us.I think before that our press had lots of reports from EU travellers to the UK who had to wait for hours in airports because of some rule that strangely doesn't affect travellers outside EU countries. Journalists then wondered why the EU isn't applying the same (non-existing) "rule" to British tourists. Now obviously they do. All on the shoulders of citizens who like to travel and are more likely remainers...
It's shameful but the UK is playing an "alone against the world" game that even right-wing governments in Poland and Hungary understand to play better with than against because they think at least about the effect on their economies. In the future Johnson will probably compare Britain's economy to Belarus to make a winning point. It's sad to observe the regressive development in the UK.
This made NEWS here in Australia and Brexit was mentioned as being the cause because most of the lorry drivers previously employed have returned to their home countries. It was sad to see my English cousins descend into fights over fuel but then I'm reminded how tense things became here in Australia over toilet paper.Petrol shortages cause stations to close