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[Ome]

Coronation Street in the 2020s should not be portrayed in a world where there are no crime rates, no government related issues and the Manchester bombings never happened.

I think you are missing the point. I don’t think anyone here is saying that. What is being discussed is the decline in viewership and that Corrie as a UK soap doesn’t reflect life now as well as it did in years gone by.

 

[emm1978]

I think you are missing the point. I don’t think anyone here is saying that. What is being discussed is the decline in viewership and that Corrie as a UK soap doesn’t reflect life now as well as it did in years gone by.

The changing world...

In the present time it's quite common to see characters with smartphones, and other 21st Century gadgets...

60 years ago... that would have looked kind of odd.

 

[Ome]

In the present time it's quite common to see characters with smartphones, and other 21st Century gadgets...

You do know that no one on here is disputing that, right?

 

[Whovian]

The changing world...

In the present time it's quite common to see characters with smartphones, and other 21st Century gadgets...

60 years ago... that would have looked kind of odd.

That's not the kind of 'realism' that anybody in this thread is on about. Nobody's suggesting that everybody stops using smartphones and harks back to the days where you had to use a phone box to call somebody. Were discussing the plots as the issue and the acting and that the general set up of the street - all of which are complete anachronisms compared to the real world in 2024. Characters that reflected real people of the time have been gradually replaced by characters who change based on their current plot and live ridiculously eventful lives, there's no earthiness to them anymore (or at least wasn't when I checked out a few years ago). There's no real street in the country that's 'like Coronation Street' - when it launched there was loads of streets that are 'like Coronation Street' that's why it had so much success.

 

[emm1978]

 

[Whovian]

A well acted scene - that was part of a shocking story-line for it's time. The difference is these days nobody would bat an eyelid at the same plot amongst the rest of the OTT and outlandish stuff we've seen on the street in the intervening 64 years.

 

[Ome]

That’s a great example of how in tune it was back then.

 

[emm1978]

That’s a great example of how in tune it was back then.

Barmaids with stalkers... violent coppers...

Viewers would kick off in droves at such a thing now... especially at the sight of a knife.

 

[Whovian]

Barmaids with stalkers... violent coppers...

Viewers would kick off in droves at such a thing now... especially at the sight of a knife.

BIB. No they really wouldn't. Given the amount of people getting stabbed in London and Manchester by teenagers these days we'd love to see a genuine knife crime storyline. Evelyn going into town and getting hounded by a group of knife-wielding thugs on mopeds to give her watch over would be a realistic storyline - in touch with the real world in 2024. But nobody goes in to town any more in Corrie; they all seem street-bound.

I just watched Friday's episode - it must be my first time watching Corrie in years - there's some good characters left and the story-lines are okay, but the dialogue - which used to be one of the shows strength - was dreadful.

 

[AndyB2008]

BIB. No they really wouldn't. Given the amount of people getting stabbed in London and Manchester by teenagers these days we'd love to see a genuine knife crime storyline. Evelyn going into town and getting hounded by a group of knife-wielding thugs on mopeds to give her watch over would be a realistic storyline - in touch with the real world in 2024. But nobody goes in to town any more in Corrie; they all seem street-bound.

I just watched Friday's episode - it must be my first time watching Corrie in years - there's some good characters left and the story-lines are okay, but the dialogue - which used to be one of the shows strength - was dreadful.

EastEnders managed that storyline you mention, when Carmel's son died.

I guess the street bound thing is to utilise the Salford set more and save on location costs. The nightclub Amy Barlow was at during her storyline was actually on the Media City set.

 

[Whovian]

EastEnders managed that storyline you mention, when Carmel's son died.

I guess the street bound thing is to utilise the Salford set more and save on location costs. The nightclub Amy Barlow was at during her storyline was actually on the Media City set.

Now you've mentioned it that story does ring a bell - I don't watch EE at all but remember it making the news. There was an associated documentary iirc? That said just because it's been done by one soap half a decade ago doesn't mean another can't tackle it or a similar issue especially after this much times passed.

Yeah I get the street-bound things is a production thing but it does make the whole thing feel claustrophobic. A way some of the classic episodes got round this was with characters talking about going off street without showing them actually doing it but they don't seem to do that much anymore.

Also just googled the Rovers as I curiously noticed that there wasn't a single scene in it during Friday's episode only for the first result to be a story about how an unexploded bomb is buried underneath the rovers and is going to explode at some point this year!

 

[Barbara On A Broomstick]

`They all live in One street, they all work in the same street
No one gets a bus or train into town to work

Half the characters are in low paid ?? mimimum wage type jobs but they can all afford to eat breakfasts in cafes, lunch/dinner in Bistros and Rovers 7 days a week ,

I eat a breakafst in a cafe if Im on holiday and its not included - if my house was in the same street i wouldnt be popping in for a coffee every day either

They are wear new clothes

The bedrooms in the small back street terraced houses must be huge as last time I watched Eilleen (looks awful by the way) had about 5 lodgers staying- where do they sleep!

bomb is buried underneath the rovers and is going to explode at some point this year!

Hopefully will take out Chesney, Fiz, Gemma, Billy, his sort of adopted daughter, Shaun, Maria, Kirk, his wife whose name i have forgotten, Sarah, yasmin and kenny Rogers lookalike, and any child actor under 18!

The epiosde I watched last week was pants! and some shocking acting too, Thank goodness for Youtube and rewatching Alec and bet, Hilda and Jack, Blanche and Deirdire et al. Just give Maureen Lipman and David Neilson their own show and have Ken, Audrey, Gail and Rita drop by.

 

[emm1978]

An article from 1990, explaining how viewers of fictional drama serials respond by actually approaching actors in the street and subjecting them to verbal and physical abuse, kicking them, spitting on them in the supermarket, etc... in other words, invading and abusing their privacy & personal space... total bastards...

And people wonder why I'm so quick to speak out in defence of actors? It's not the show and it's characters that have ever made me sick... it's people like that...

It's difficult enough as it is for actors to secure regular work in the industry, without idiots like that making life hell for them...

Be kind, be caring... treat people with respect!

 

[AndyB2008]

An article from 1990, explaining how viewers of fictional drama serials respond by actually approaching actors in the street and subjecting them to verbal and physical abuse, kicking them, spitting on them in the supermarket, etc... in other words, invading and abusing their privacy & personal space... total bastards...

And people wonder why I'm so quick to speak out in defence of actors? It's not the show and it's characters that have ever made me sick... it's people like that...

It's difficult enough as it is for actors to secure regular work in the industry, without idiots like that making life hell for them...

Be kind, be caring... treat people with respect!

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Agreed.

When the Trevor Jordache storyline happened in Brookside, Bryan Murray had to have a security escort at one point as he was getting abuse due to his role as Trevor.

 

[emm1978]

Agreed.

When the Trevor Jordache storyline happened in Brookside, Bryan Murray had to have a security escort at one point as he was getting abuse due to his role as Trevor.

You'd think that these people weren't acting and actually doing it!

It's like when Ray Crosby raped Faye in Coronation Street... from the amount of complaints received, it's almost like those people thought the actor really had raped his co-star.

I know the actor who played Ernest Bishop's killer in 1978... Two weeks after it was shown, he was enjoying a holiday in Greece, when another English tourist there came up to him and shouted angrily at him, "MURDERER!" A case of the viewer believing he really was a murderer, as opposed to simply an actor playing one.

 

[Carrie Fairchild]

how an unexploded bomb is buried underneath the rovers and is going to explode at some point this year!

If it’s the same story I looked at, I think it’s a metaphorical “bomb” about the circumstances that led to the Rovers reopening as opposed to an actual bomb.

 

[emm1978]

If it’s the same story I looked at, I think it’s a metaphorical “bomb” about the circumstances that led to the Rovers reopening as opposed to an actual bomb.

An unexploded bomb would not be unusual... they had one in the 1960s... and I think one in the 1970s too.

 

[Carrie Fairchild]

An unexploded bomb would not be unusual... they had one in the 1960s... and I think one in the 1970s too.

Yes. I remember EastEnders had one too (for one of the anniversaries I think) where all the characters had to take shelter in the Vic.

 

[Whovian]

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No Coronation Street (or any soap) in the Top 15. Most rated episode of Corrie coming in at 17th with 4.85m viewers.

First time no soap has made the Top 15 since 21-27 November 2022 when Corrie came in at 21st place with 5.10 viewers.

 

[Whovian]

Jack Carroll is an awful actor; I don't think I'll be watching again until he's written out.