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I would rather rewatch "the reunion" than the second part of season 7. Especially since "the reunion" is much shorter.

In my head, you're a hero. I am not brave enough to watch it again. I mean, season 9 was really good (imo). Having Dynasty : The Regression right after was like eating a raw toad after being served the most delicate gourmet meal. I don't want to feel that ever again lol
 

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Dynasty at its most lush when they do a Mansion Walkthrough accompanied by a dramatic score.
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It's also interesting times for Alexis, who doesn't know yet she's going to be the villain of the piece.
Here, she's just woman. Looking around, touching her hair. But Krystle knows evil and she's going to nip it in the bud.
As if!
One of the best scenes, if not the best, in the entire series.
 

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talking about prince Michael: it seems it was original planed to pair him with Sammy Jo before they re-tooled S6

And that they should've done! In my head, the prince has Sammy Jo forced-aborted when she becomes pregnant, as he realizes Alexis wants to recover the throne.
 

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And that they should've done! In my head, the prince has Sammy Jo forced-aborted when she becomes pregnant, as he realizes Alexis wants to recover the throne.
That would have been a great plot and given Heather Locklear something she could really sink her teeth into in terms of acting.
 

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Welcome to the forum. Most of your observations are spot on and the majority agree with you.

Season 7 is considered to be the series low point rather than the Reunion where people tuned in out of curiosity and it was meant to wrap up the series.

even Joan Collins admits with season 7 that’s when the series started to lose its sparkle.
I just watched the first two episodes of season 7 and this is my quick impression:
- Maybe I’m over analyzing, but I noticed a different feeling. These two episodes felt kinda sepia. It lacked the brightness of the previous seasons, especially in contrast with its direct predecessor Season 6. It felt, at least to me, strange and a bit depressing. Even season 1 wasn’t that sepia.
- they replaced one of my favorite characters Amanda and so far I’m not feeling the new Amanda.
- They brought back Michael Culhane, WTF!? Out of all the characters they brought him back!? He was interesting in Season 1 with old Fallon but NOW!? 6 seasons later!?
Instead of giving using Dominique more, giving Steven another boyfriend or bringing Sable into his seasons, whatever ...but not the ex-chauffeur which probably most people either forgot or have never seen because they didn’t watched season 1. Just no!
- Claudia finally met her demise. I don’t know whether I’m gonna miss her or not. She definitely changed over the course of the previous 6 seasons. From being a fragile, introvert woman to a real, over the top Carrington.
Maybe she should just have packed her bags and left Denver instead of dying in a lake of fire.
- Alexis buying a newspaper business and becoming a female Rupert Murdoch. I hope his will last only a couple of episodes and not become a side business. She is a too big character for actively running a local newspaper
- at least Adam is now on the side of Alexis just like in Season 3, a pairing I really enjoyed
- I really liked Jeanette in these 2 episode. A tiny character but with a big heart

- The Reunion was the low point. Evans: "We never had as much trouble as with this script" - Collins: "An awful idea. This really killed the show."
I’m still gonna watch it when I’m done with the regular seasons. Watching Dynasty is like having a friendship with ups and downs. The ups are precious memories and the downs are sometimes just painful. But you stick with them until the end.
Welcome @The2ndLostSonOfAlexis ! And yes S6.B is really great! Ben & Caress and the big fight DC vs Colbyco + this epic cliffhanger ...

talking about prince Michael: it seems it was original planed to pair him with Sammy Jo before they re-tooled S6
Thank you :)
I totally agree! 6B is really one of the highlights of Dynasty
 

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- they replaced one of my favorite characters Amanda and so far I’m not feeling the new Amanda.

Just like anyone when season 7 first aired : no one I know liked the new Amanda. Poor Karen Cellini was wrongly casted, and the producers had no direction for her (and for the character). It was a big mistake to fire Catherine Oxenberg : the younger viewers liked her. I did.
 
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My opinion, and mine only : The Reunion is the low point. So low that I deny its existence. In my head it's non canon, it's an alternate pathetic universe I want to forget.
- but it really has good moments: some fights, Miller clothes, Alexis & Krystle first meeting, B&K on the beach + their last dance, Steven is GAY and HAPPY, Miles is back and shirtless...
And that they should've done! In my head, the prince has Sammy Jo forced-aborted when she becomes pregnant, as he realizes Alexis wants to recover the throne.
- YES!!!


- they replaced one of my favorite characters Amanda and so far I’m not feeling the new Amanda.
- They brought back Michael Culhane, WTF!? Out of all the characters they brought him back!? He was interesting in Season 1 with old Fallon but NOW!? 6 seasons later!?
Instead of giving using Dominique more, giving Steven another boyfriend or bringing Sable into his seasons, whatever ...but not the ex-chauffeur which probably most people either forgot or have never seen because they didn’t watched season 1. Just no!
- Claudia finally met her demise. I don’t know whether I’m gonna miss her or not. She definitely changed over the course of the previous 6 seasons. From being a fragile, introvert woman to a real, over the top Carrington.
Maybe she should just have packed her bags and left Denver instead of dying in a lake of fire.
- Alexis buying a newspaper business and becoming a female Rupert Murdoch. I hope his will last only a couple of episodes and not become a side business. She is a too big character for actively running a local newspaper
- at least Adam is now on the side of Alexis just like in Season 3, a pairing I really enjoyed
- I really liked Jeanette in these 2 episode. A tiny character but with a big heart


I’m still gonna watch it when I’m done with the regular seasons. Watching Dynasty is like having a friendship with ups and downs. The ups are precious memories and the downs are sometimes just painful. But you stick with them until the end.

Thank you :)
I totally agree! 6B is really one of the highlights of Dynasty
- I liked the pairing of Alexis & Adam too ... the evil horde living in the holy mansion (including Ben) was great ... -imagine Caress would have stayed their longer ... endless onliners and evil action all the time!
- the producers wanted to go Claudia that badly way because there was trouble behind the scenes ...
 

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- the producers wanted to go Claudia that badly way because there was trouble behind the scenes ...
The producers did not care how she was going as long as she was going. Actually, Claudia was supposed to leave Denver in a limo full of furs but the writers decided, at the last minute, to burn La Mirage down which sealed Claudia's fate as they needed someone to put the fire on.
But yes there was a lot of trouble behind the scene as Pamela Bellwood was very demanding with her pregnancy : she wanted 2 months off (that's why she missed 5 episodes) and she refused to kiss Gordon Thompson (see the article attached). It was ok with the producers until the ratings went down. Suddenly, they needed someone to blame and because of her demands, she became the perfect target.
 

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The producers did not care how she was going as long as she was going. Actually, Claudia was supposed to leave Denver in a limo full of furs but the writers decided, at the last minute, to burn La Mirage down which sealed Claudia's fate as they needed someone to put the fire on.
But yes there was a lot of trouble behind the scene as Pamela Bellwood was very demanding with her pregnancy : she wanted 2 months off (that's why she missed 5 episodes) and she refused to kiss Gordon Thompson (see the article attached). It was ok with the producers until the ratings went down. Suddenly, they needed someone to blame and because of her demands, she became the perfect target.
Also in a recent video with Pamela Bellwood which was shared on this forum, Pamela says she was supposed to have lots of bitchy - and physical fights - with Heather Locklear in Season 6. But because of her pregnancy, the physical scenes were scrapped. So the producers probably weren't pleased with the rewrites. It would have been fun too to see Claudia and Sammy Jo bitch slapping each other again. Though I'd prefer if they kept Luke and it was he who fought with Sammy Jo, at least verbally.
 

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Also in a recent video with Pamela Bellwood which was shared on this forum, Pamela says she was supposed to have lots of bitchy - and physical fights - with Heather Locklear in Season 6. But because of her pregnancy, the physical scenes were scrapped. So the producers probably weren't pleased with the rewrites. It would have been fun too to see Claudia and Sammy Jo bitch slapping each other again. Though I'd prefer if they kept Luke and it was he who fought with Sammy Jo, at least verbally.

Luke and Sammy Jo in a violent smackdown -- I'd tune in for that ... but I wouldn't want to see her hurt him. :lol:
 

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The producers did not care how she was going as long as she was going. Actually, Claudia was supposed to leave Denver in a limo full of furs but the writers decided, at the last minute, to burn La Mirage down which sealed Claudia's fate as they needed someone to put the fire on.

Instead of keeping Claudia throughout Season 6 they should have killed her in Moldavia. And I think there a many reasons why this would have been a “win-win” situation for Pamela and the show:
- Pamela Bellwood would have had a peaceful pregnancy without the show in her life. Which is obviously good for her!
- Claudia didn’t brought much to Season 6: She married and divorced Adam and whined 25+ episodes long about the little oil field she inherited.
- Therefore they could have saved Pamela Bellwoods salary aswell as saving the costs for burning down the La Mirage Set

This means there would have been money left to give Catherine Oxenberg her raise and keep her on the show...
... and maybe 1 or 2 different writers to save the script of season 7.
 

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Instead of keeping Claudia throughout Season 6 they should have killed her in Moldavia. And I think there a many reasons why this would have been a “win-win” situation for Pamela and the show:
- Pamela Bellwood would have had a peaceful pregnancy without the show in her life. Which is obviously good for her!
- Claudia didn’t brought much to Season 6: She married and divorced Adam and whined 25+ episodes long about the little oil field she inherited.
- Therefore they could have saved Pamela Bellwoods salary aswell as saving the costs for burning down the La Mirage Set

This means there would have been money left to give Catherine Oxenberg her raise and keep her on the show...
... and maybe 1 or 2 different writers to save the script of season 7.

Killing her in Moldavia would have added some urgency to the finale and the next season's opener. With all that buildup and such a finale they needed at least two major characters to bite the dust.(Or at least show Krystle deflecting the bullets with Wonder Woman bracelets).
Speaking of Claudia's oil well, why didn't Blake just give it to her? He was very protective of Claudia at the end of season 1 and into season 2. He even socked Cecil in the jaw for referring to her as a "prostitute." He didn't the well. It seemed a bit out of character for him to not give it to her.
 

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Claudia was such a poetic and tragic character in season 1. She was troubled but intelligent, she loved literature and poetry...
Season 6 Claudia is just greedy, unbalanced, annoying character with a fetish for fur coats. Poor Pamela Bellwood had to swallow that awful writing, to finally get fired.
 

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Claudia was such a poetic and tragic character in season 1. She was troubled but intelligent, she loved literature and poetry...
Season 6 Claudia is just greedy, unbalanced, annoying character with a fetish for fur coats. Poor Pamela Bellwood had to swallow that awful writing, to finally get fired.
And at least have them more acknowledge her transformation: her newfound 'if-you-can't-beat-'em-then-join-'em' greed, not natural to her, is a symptom of her ultimate mental collapse.

I mean, that's probably how they meant it, but it's way too sloppy and flighty in its execution.

And speaking of execution, I'd have Claudia in a wheelchair when she starts that hotel fire. A wheelchair that gets caught on a rug so she more logically can't escape the inferno she unleased while lighting candles to liars.

 
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Killing her in Moldavia would have added some urgency to the finale and the next season's opener.
At that time Dynasty wasn't very good at doing "urgency", and she needed the opportunity to call Krystle "the most dangerous Carrington of them all".
But there was also no urgency in the La Mirage fire because it felt too good.
Should it have happened in the Carrington mansion, I mean instead of that silly strangulation scene?

Krystle and Blake are gone and Alexis plans to celebrate her victory, only to discover that her mansion is on fire. Bummer!
Claudia tries to flee the scene but is stopped by Ben. They struggle and he accidentally pushes her down the stairs. The flames are getting closer and he goes outside where Alexis watches in horror how her victory goes up in smoke. Meanwile, the half-unconscious Claudia murmurs "help....me...." A ghostly image of Lindsay appears in a melodramatic fashion.

So, if Ben had to do that badly acted remorse thing then at least it would be a little bit more believable.

They would need to redecorate the mansion and recast the iconic stairs with the stairs from the Reunion, ready for some fresh new drama.
La Mirage will be temporarily closed (and then completely forgotten) because of a dead body in the pool. The final shot identifies the victim: it's Prince Michael.
 

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I have watched around 1/3 of the season 7. All I can say that I was never so bored while watching Dynasty. I even started to miss Rita.

However I don’t to want to start a rant about S7.

I have a rather specific question concerning the Dynasty scripts. Since I started watching Dynasty It came to my attention that throughout its run on TV Dynasty was rewritten, retolled many times.

Are there any specific scripts, newspaper articles, blog post online that show what was rewritten, retooled throughout the years? Which Ideas where scrap or put into the script at the last possible moment?

I‘m thankful for every information I could get :)
 
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