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Any thoughts on this show? Cartoon Network (or Adult Swim) as recently pulled this show from its schedule (or so it seems) and I felt triggered to kick-start a discussion here about the show itself.

What's anyone here think?

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I know someone here has watched this show and has an opinion. What y'all thinking?
 

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Let's dig an old thread that never saw the light.

I know some of you all out there have got to be fans of KING OF THE HILL, because my logic tells me that I cannot be the only on here that enjoys this show.
 

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I’ve honestly only caught very little of it but I do remember it being extremely popular. It was a must watch for many people I worked with at the time. I was wondering, did Brittany Murphy’s death have something to do with the cancellation or were there other reasons? Were the ratings still good after 13 years?
 

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I’ve honestly only caught very little of it but I do remember it being extremely popular. It was a must watch for many people I worked with at the time. I was wondering, did Brittany Murphy’s death have something to do with the cancellation or were there other reasons? Were the ratings still good after 13 years?
KING OF THE HILL was a consistently good show throughout its thirteen-season-run. Mike Judge and Greg Daniels, the former being the series creator, were driving forces behind the show for many years. Judge and Daniels infused the series with many story-arcs and character development. The Fox didn't want any strong story-arcs or development so the episodes could be aired out of order in syndication.

The early seasons of KING OF THE HILL drew really good ratings, especially for a Fox animated comedy. The series placed #15 overall in 1998 at the end of its second season. The viewership tapered off, but it was stable throughout the remainder of its run. By the time it ended in 2009, the show was still placing #95, which was decent considering the number of shows on television and the age of KING OF THE HILL itself.

As Judge and Daniels reduced their involvement over the years, KING OF THE HILL did tend to become more formulaic. There were several cases where story lines were introduced, then quickly dropped, and there was a lot of retconning that went on, especially when concerning the core characters and their relationships with their relatives. I remember one of the more obvious changes being Peggy Hill's relationship with her mother. In the earliest seasons, Peggy and her mother enjoyed a healthy mother-daughter rivalry in flashbacks, but by the ninth season, when Peggy and the family go to visit her mother in Montana, Mrs. Platter is a vindictive woman who has never appreciated or respected her daughter.

These types of things tend to happen to shows, despite the genre, when the personnel behind-the-scenes starts to shift. KING OF THE HILL was still a quality show and the change in tone was subtle, but evident, especially to avid fans. If you were a casual viewer, then you probably wouldn't notice anything that much different.

You asked whether or not Brittany Murphy's death had anything to do with Fox cancelling the show. Well, to the best of my knowledge, it didn't. Murphy's death was almost simultaneous with the network's decision to axe the show. Had the show continued, however, I'm not sure whether they would've written Murphy's character Luanne out of the story or if they might have brought in a sound-alike actress to fill her spot. With the rumors that KING OF THE HILL could possibly be revived, if Luanne were to return (as I'm assure she would), I'd assume the producers would get a sound-alike actress to takeover.​
 

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I enjoyed KING OF THE HILL. I never watched it during its initial run, but I was watching it frequently in reruns for a while. I've never seen it all the way through or in any kind of order; I couldn't even guess how many of its total episodes that I've seen. Of all animated family sitcoms (THE SIMPSONS; FAMILY GUY; etc), KotH seemed to be the most grounded and realistic. The plots and humor could easily have worked as a live action sitcom, except for the cast growing older.
 

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I enjoyed KING OF THE HILL. I never watched it during its initial run, but I was watching it frequently in reruns for a while. I've never seen it all the way through or in any kind of order; I couldn't even guess how many of its total episodes that I've seen. Of all animated family sitcoms (THE SIMPSONS; FAMILY GUY; etc), KotH seemed to be the most grounded and realistic. The plots and humor could easily have worked as a live action sitcom, except for the cast growing older.
KING OF THE HILL is a solid show nearly all the way through its thirteen seasons. Even as much as I've watched the show, I seriously doubt I've seen every episode, and I know I've never watched them in order necessarily. There is a subtle explanation of the characters aging on the show, but it is slight. There isn't anything too strong, but they do mentioning Bobby getting older, and his friend Joseph hits puberty and turns in the Green Giant with Indian features.

I don't like any of the other animated shows. There was a time where I watched a lot of AMERICAN DAD, but I really don't have any unction to watch it anymore. My favorite character was Roger, but I think I'd find it too vulgar now to enjoy. I haven't watched it in years, and I probably never will again. I watched THE CLEVELAND SHOW a little too, but it never was a staple.​
 

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t is slight. There isn't anything too strong, but they do mentioning Bobby getting older, and his friend Joseph hits puberty and turns in the Green Giant with Indian features.

Yeah I can see that; but in live action, Bobby would have been pushing 30. That ability to maintain a status quo for years on end is an advantage of animation over live action. The other animated shows have that benefit too but they are all a lot more 'cartoony' than KotH. I think everything about KotH was as realistic as a live action sitcom, but with the luxury of not having the actors age out of their intended roles.
 

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Yeah I can see that; but in live action, Bobby would have been pushing 30. That ability to maintain a status quo for years on end is an advantage of animation over live action. The other animated shows have that benefit too but they are all a lot more 'cartoony' than KotH. I think everything about KotH was as realistic as a live action sitcom, but with the luxury of not having the actors age out of their intended roles.
That makes animation more appealing that live-action in the long run. If someone decides to leave, all you have to do is write off the character or simply hire a sound-alike voice actor/actress to fill the spot. You can keep them the same age and have them have the same "look" for as long as you like.​
 

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I liked King of the Hill. As a previous poster said, it was a solid show throughout its run.

There was talk of a revival of the show over the last few years. As for Luanne/Brittany Murphy, I seem to recall their using the character less in the later years. So you could potentially do it without Luanne (though I always thought she added a lot to the show when she appeared).
 

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I’m not surprised, as it’s still a very popular show. I can definitely see this being successful.
 

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Okay so some fan made their own displays of what a Blu-ray release of KING OF THE HILL could possibly look like. I thought they looked pretty good. They fit with the spirit of the show too.

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