Krystina ruined everything

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Dynasty’s first retcon, it could be argued that Adam was the first but it really was Krystina.
How exactly was Krystle able to carry a pregnancy to term so easily,
Krystina started the demise of the original story with lame retelling of everyone’s backstories in season 5
 
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I dunno
Alexis obviously paid the doctor to tell Krystle that she was barren.

Or maybe it was Sammy Jo.
 

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The kid who played little Blake in season 4 was the superior actor, he cried when I’m sure he wanted to burst out laughing when Kathleen had to strange and shake Joan (the last time we ever saw her real hair in 42 years )
 

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Krystina almost died, LB was kidnapped and Danny resulted in a soapy bargain, a soapy custody battle and even a mini-kidnapping.
Diseases are my least favourite storylines, except for the Famous Expert Doctor who is "unavailable because of blabla". Accidents and murder attempts are great, of course. All those promises of "thing are going to be better". "I'll never leave you".
Kidnappings can be very tiresome unless there's something special about it - a whodunit or a replacement. Dynasty did very well.

Custody battles are fun because somebody is going to lose and be very very upset about it. Dana got a horrible storyline as the remorseful adoption mother, to me that means that she didn't want the baby badly enough. And soap characters who don't want it bad are boring and useless, they don't have a motive.
And so she left, with a suitcase and without a motive, although I'm convinced that she never left the house. At least not alive.
Too bad Sean Rowan was wasting his time pointing a gun at Alexis (there wasn't going to be any kind of payoff) while he could have left the series with one big evil deed: killing Dana "Linda Fairgate" style. And then re-custody the baby to the Atkinsons.

I don't understand Lankershim Blasdel 1's retcon theory (and why is that not spelled as "Blaisdel", or does the "1" represent the missing "i"?) but I think it's true that Krystina had a bad influence on Dynasty overall.
Too much happiness in the nursery, it's such a great place for regrets and making difficult decisions - not to just stand there, smiling.
Krystle got everything she wanted, there were no more "what if's". It became a Christmassy wholesomeness that killed Krystle's soap potential, and that is not OK.
 

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Krystina was conceived because of greed, not compelling storytelling.
We were told that it was impossible for Krystle to carry a pregnancy to term for 2 seasons, all of a sudden a doctor says sure and all she needed to bring a baby to term was to be driven around by a chauffeur.
Let’s create a Krystina doll along with bad perfume, cheap clothing and market the shit out of this show instead of writing stories that create a great soap.
All Krystle ever wanted was a child of her own and what happens once she gets one, she spends all her time on her new life long obsession with fancy horses with a very sickly looking man who wants to get into her leather pants.
 
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Sean Rowan was created because they were too lame to try to write new stuff up so they recycled the Ben story that they killed.
Yes I want brain damaged Krystle to shoot Alexis after she found out or just imagined Alexis had some way been responsible for Krystina’s donor heart actually came from a pig.
 
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Sean Rowan was created because they were too lame to try to write new stuff up so they recycled the Ben story that they killed.
Yes I want brain damaged Krystle to shoot Alexis after she found out or just imagined Alexis had some way been responsible for Krystina’s donor heart actually came from a pig.

I envision an amalgam of Sean Rowan in Alexis' hotel bathroom with Sue Ellen & Mafia Boy in J.R.'s hotel room: Dominique is leaving Denver to tour with Vic Damone when she runs into a couple at Stapleton International -- they tell her that they were going to donate their dead baby's heart to Kwythsteeeeeena the previous season, but Alexis talked them out of it. Dominique calls Krystle from an airport phone.

Armed with this information, Krystle rushes to the Carlton Hotel to confront Alexis, only to find the older woman (sorry, Joan) toasting champagne flutes with Blake who's just presented a check to his ex-wife from their Natumbe deal.

Blake, stunned by these new revelations from Krystle, hesitates, mutters to Alexis (and half to himself), "I forgot...." Alexis gasps, "What, Blake...??" To which he responds, ".... what a bitch you are...!" Shocked, Mrs. Colby pulls a derringer on Blake and demands he and Krystle immediately exit Alexis' suite. Which Blake only agrees to do if Alexis returns that fat check he'd just shoved into Alexis' grubby little hand.

Naturally, Alexis, used to receiving funds and not providing them (except to her couturier), refuses. At which point, he attacks her. Krystle squeals, "Noooooooooo!" as she collapses ineffectually under the weight of her own spontaneous migraine. And Blake's & Alexis' tussle winds up on her balcony (not a sexual metaphor), the railing gives way, and Blake tumbles four floors into the lake below Alexis' window (again, not a sexual metaphor). All of which leads Krystle to pick up the gun, Alexis spinning around in shock, just in time to see Krystle aim at her and fire with vague sadism.... We hear a thud... Krystle goes to the phone, refuses to take off her earring (as no Carrington would ever do) and dials 9-1-1, announcing firmly: "This ... is Krystle Carrington...!" Followed by a creepy, closed-mouth smile, as lightning strikes, and the frame freezes. Season 8 over.

Isn't that better than doing the same thing on DALLAS roughly that same month?


"And to think -- I was just shot a few weeks ago on the campaign trail.....!"
 
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Sean Rowan was created because they were too lame to try to write new stuff up so they recycled the Ben story that they killed.
It doesn't matter to me if they were feeling lame or ambitious, it's what on screen that counts.
I just wish it had been discovered that a younger Sean had recorded a few europop schlager hits, a reference to John James and Joan's ne'er-do-well ex-husband.
Sean interacted with various Dynasty characters which, at that point, was quite unusual.
So, rather than Ben I'd say he was a better Peter De Vilbis.
 

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The original idea was for the projector to play little Danny’s custody trial instead of Blake’s murder trial.
Sean saying the sins of the father was originally meant for Blake not Joseph
But that would have been too interesting for Dynasty at that point.
Instead of everyone loving each other out of nowhere the original idea of Ben trying to kill his wife Alexis would have done the job and Sean wouldn’t have been needed
 

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Krystle aim at her and fire
They should have done exactly what Sue Ellen did to JR, setting up Krystle in the early stages of dementia from her limo/ horse accident (no jury would convict her)
They were too too careful but had no problem continuing the crap
Season 8 cliffhanger:
Krystle shoots Alexis when she finds out Alexis sabotaged Krystina’s heart transplant
Krystina is in critical condition (the poor thing)
Krystle is in jail
Blake has had it with everything, he knows Krystle’s health diagnosis
Krystle aimed for Alexis’ moneymaker
The aliens return real Fallon, Amanda and Steven and take back their imposters(over on TC)
 
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They should have done exactly what Sue Ellen did to JR, setting up Krystle in the early stages of dementia from her limo/ horse accident (no jury would convict her)
They were too too careful but had no problem continuing the crap
Season 8 cliffhanger:
Krystle shoots Alexis when she finds out Alexis sabotaged Krystina’s heart transplant
Krystina is in critical condition (the poor thing)
Krystle is in jail
Blake has had it with everything, he knows Krystle’s health diagnosis
Krystle aimed for Alexis’ moneymaker
The aliens return real Fallon, Amanda and Steven and take back their imposters

Although I would do Season 9 just as Paulsen did it -- except Krystle would run off to Dayton after the shooting, and Blake would hand that Natumbe check over to Alexis (along with other threats) to guarantee her silence. Leaving his ex-wife to stammer through an explanation to the police that there had been no incident in her hotel suite (other than her cleaning her licensed firearm on the balcony, the gun going off by accident and grazing herself slightly, and Blake inadvertently crashing through the railing as he rushed out to see if Alexis was okay).

The phonecall from Krystle to law enforcement? A prank upon the rich & famous given that Krystle was indeed seen rushing through the Carlton lobby.

And the thunderstorm further confused the events.

Are the police convinced? No, not entirely. But with powerful Alexis Colby, wrapped in her pink terrycloth robe, insisting no crime was committed upon her, the cops back off. Not knowing what to do about it... Sean Rowan being found dead (of suicide?) in a seedy Limon, Colorado motel room, surrounded by a small arsenal, helps distract attention away from the non-event fracas in Alexis' suite.

Blake, of course, is fished out of the lake beside the Carlton, looking like Blake would look under those circumstances.

Season 9 proceeds as is.

And Sean would not be here:



They were too too careful but had no problem continuing the crap

Yes. That was DYNASTY: protect the garbage -- because it's our garbage.
 
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Although I would do Season 9 just as Paulsen did it
They needed to keep Dominique around a while longer, maybe the actress would have stayed if she finally was given something to do, really would Dominique disappear with Krystle in such bad shape.
Except for the cop and Sable those other characters shouldn’t have happened, Virgina needed to be a very short term character and normal, that after she shoots Alexis turns up at her house.
One of the original children needed to come back, preferably Pamela and maybe even Al, they should have kept it on Wednesdays and given it a chance at redemption
Krystina’s heart story should have been resolved in season 9 with Krystle refusing to get her own surgery until she knows her daughter will be ok.
The best Krystle vs Alexis scene since season 2 happened in 9 when she threatens Alexis’ life if she continued to hurt her family then in that shit reunion Krystle fights her over a broach.
Dana should have stayed a while longer too until she couldn’t take the way Adam started behaving and gave up.
As bad as Virginia and Joanna were I still prefer them to rescuing Leslie and just having her tied up in a cabin in the woods
BTW, Jasmine Guy would have made a great Jackie but her father needed to be Brady Lloyd, all wasted opportunities
 
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the original idea of Ben trying to kill his wife Alexis would have done the job and Sean wouldn’t have been needed
But that didn't happen therefore Sean was needed.

I almost feel insane for appreciating the good things that did happen in Dynasty.
One of the original children needed to come back, preferably Pamela and maybe even Al
No, that was not needed at all. If anything, it would have looked incredibly disruptive and jarring to do a re-recast, basically turning all the recast episodes into one big dream season.
 

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I think that someone who’d never seen Dynasty could watch 5 minutes of a season 2 episode and tell you that the Krystle/Alexis conflict was the core of the show and they could mine several seasons off of that alone.

But the show itself never understood this — well, they did in season 2, but then they seemed to forget. And the show was especially unwilling to ever truly deal with the incredibly f**ked up thing Alexis did when she caused Krystle to miscarry.

And as if it’s not bad enough that the show won’t give the viewers the Krystle/Alexis rivalry that they crave, they undo the effects of what Alexis did to Krystle.
 
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