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Mary Tyler Moore Show and Its Spin-Offs
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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson" data-source="post: 408589" data-attributes="member: 5079"><p>Directly, but delicately. Despite the sledge hammer approach towards social issues by AITF and MAUDE on the same network, CBS wasn't thrilled about MTM being too bold about Rhoda's Jewishness. Early in the production, a network exec passed a memo to the MTM producers reminding them that Middle America disliked "New Yorkers, Jews, and moustaches".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Rhoda went through an interesting evolution in MTM. After Valerie Harper "slimmed down" (odd, since she was never even plump) Rhoda's humor shifted from self-deprecating to outwardly focused towards the losers she dated. This was a drastic shift in personality, but done so smoothly one might hardly notice. The writers of RHODA never seemed to figure out how to transition Rhoda to being a happily married wife. Her humor no longer had the same outlets. Oddly, the show might have worked better if Joe & Rhoda were less happily married and he was the subject of her barbs. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I haven't seen enough of PHYLLIS to try to sway you, but listen to tommie; if for no reason than I enjoy you being in American sitcomland. I see the entirety of PHYLLIS S1 is on Youtube and in what appears to be good quality. I might just watch it myself. </p><p></p><p>Incidentally, I just noticed you passed episodes of MTM that feature two of the characters I suspect were trials for possible Rhoda-replacements: Sherry (the hooker) and Charlene (the lounge singer). Both characters only stuck around for a few episodes and I've never seen confirmation that they were considered to be recurring parts, but they both stuck me as experiments to give Mary a more worldly friend.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson, post: 408589, member: 5079"] Directly, but delicately. Despite the sledge hammer approach towards social issues by AITF and MAUDE on the same network, CBS wasn't thrilled about MTM being too bold about Rhoda's Jewishness. Early in the production, a network exec passed a memo to the MTM producers reminding them that Middle America disliked "New Yorkers, Jews, and moustaches". Rhoda went through an interesting evolution in MTM. After Valerie Harper "slimmed down" (odd, since she was never even plump) Rhoda's humor shifted from self-deprecating to outwardly focused towards the losers she dated. This was a drastic shift in personality, but done so smoothly one might hardly notice. The writers of RHODA never seemed to figure out how to transition Rhoda to being a happily married wife. Her humor no longer had the same outlets. Oddly, the show might have worked better if Joe & Rhoda were less happily married and he was the subject of her barbs. I haven't seen enough of PHYLLIS to try to sway you, but listen to tommie; if for no reason than I enjoy you being in American sitcomland. I see the entirety of PHYLLIS S1 is on Youtube and in what appears to be good quality. I might just watch it myself. Incidentally, I just noticed you passed episodes of MTM that feature two of the characters I suspect were trials for possible Rhoda-replacements: Sherry (the hooker) and Charlene (the lounge singer). Both characters only stuck around for a few episodes and I've never seen confirmation that they were considered to be recurring parts, but they both stuck me as experiments to give Mary a more worldly friend. [/QUOTE]
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