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Of course, Trump blames a Clinton as per expectation.
Power Perv Extroirdinaire, Jeffrey Epstein, commits suspicious suicide
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I do find AG William Barr's jumping into the fray immediately to be wildly suspicious, however. I mean, like, seriously.
But this is too good to be true:
But this is too good to be true:
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Joe Scarborough has cracked the case!
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Gee. As suspicious as it all is, I guess Epstein really did commit suicide -- because Dr. Baden is always wrong.
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Baden is a hack for hire. Napolitano, however, I rather like -- and he always looks to me like JFK had he lived to be 75.
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Am I right in thinking that Prince Andrew’s alleged offence is to have slept with an under-age girl Epstein introduced him to? I’ve forgotten her name. Has that been proven? Why should Andrew be in jeopardy if Epstein was murdered.
I was looking up the name of the girl who alleged that Epstein wanted her to be the surrogate mother to his baby, and I found her story in a Daily Mail report. Her name is Virginia Giuffre nee Roberts.
Going by DM’s story: Virginia claims (a) Epstein lost interest in her when she was 18 but still wanted her to be his baby’s birth mother; (b) she escaped his clutches at age 19 when she went to Thailand to do a massage course and met her future husband. (They live in Australia.); and (c) she slept with Prince Andrew when with Epstein.
If Virginia is indeed the underage girl the Press and other news media claim Prince Andrew slept with, it’s possible they were mistaken -- at the very least in her being under-age at the time.
Per DM’s reporting: “Roberts (Virginia) in the past claimed in US court papers that she slept with Prince Andrew, a former friend of Epstein – however, he has always denied any involvement and the allegations were later struck from the record as being “immaterial and impertinent”.
This reads like the claim that she’d slept with Andrew was stricken from the court record.
I’ve no idea what the court action was about; DM doesn’t make it clear. Maybe who Virginia slept with was “immaterial” to the case at hand.
But note that DM uses the word ‘allegation’ in the plural, so what else did she allege that was stricken from the record? Her being under-age? What he liked in bed? How he performed?
Note, also, that while the first word in the quoted phrase is “immaterial” the other word in the phrase is “impertinent” – not “irrelevant”.
If Virginia made an allegation that she was under-age at the time… Since sex with a minor is against the law, I find it hard to believe that a court would allow such an allegation by the (then) minor to be struck from the record if there was the likelihood that it was credible.
In other words, if Virginia alleged that she was under-age when she slept with Andrew, and that was an allegation which was struck from the record then the court must have had reason for not believing her claim.
Had Prince Andrew been 'cleared' in a court of law and the international Press just didn’t report it, or widely enough?
The DM story here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...x-slave-18-raise-child-Ghislaine-Maxwell.html
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Jeffrey Epstein: ABC stopped report 'amid Palace threats
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Image captionABC journalist Amy Robach (left) and paedophile Jeffrey Epstein
Leaked footage shows a US TV anchor complaining that editors "quashed" a story about paedophile Jeffrey Epstein due to pressure from the Royal Family.
ABC's Amy Robach is seen in the clip griping that her interview with an alleged victim of Epstein and Prince Andrew never made it to air.
"The Palace found out and threatened us a million different ways," she says.
ABC News said there was "zero truth" to the claim, while Buckingham Palace told the BBC "this is a matter for ABC".
Epstein, a wealthy and well-connected financier, was found dead in a jail cell in August while awaiting trial for sex crimes. His death was ruled a suicide by investigators.
In the video, Ms Robach vents frustration that her 2015 interview with Virginia Giuffre - formerly Virginia Roberts - was never broadcast.
The clip was leaked on Tuesday by Project Veritas, a group that seeks to expose perceived liberal bias in the mainstream media.
Ms Giuffre, 35, alleges she was abused by Epstein and was ordered to have sex with powerful men including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.
In court documents she said she was forced to have sex with the British royal on three separate occasions while she was under the legal age of consent.
Prince Andrew has denied having "any form of sexual contact or relationship" with Ms Giuffre.
In 2015, a judge ruled that the allegations made by Ms Giuffre regarding Prince Andrew were "immaterial and impertinent" and ordered them to be removed from a claim against Epstein.
Image copyrightVIRGINIA ROBERTS
Image captionMs Giuffre says she was abused by Prince Andrew several times
What does the video show?
"I've had this story for three years. I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts," says Robach, speaking to someone off-camera.
"We would not put it on the air. First of all, I was told, 'who's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This is a stupid story.'
"Then the Palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways.
"We were so afraid that we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will.
"That also quashed the story," the host of ABC's 20/20 programme added.
In a statement to BBC News a spokesperson for Buckingham Palace said it was "a matter for ABC".
Robach also says that the interview included allegations against former US President Bill Clinton.
"We had everything," she continues. "I tried for three years to get it on, to no avail.
"And now it's all coming out and it's like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it."
How have ABC responded?
In a statement after the footage leaked, ABC stood by its decision not to air the interview, saying the reporting did not meet its standards.
"But we have never stopped investigating the story," the statement continues, adding that "substantial resources" had been dedicated to investigating Epstein.
In a separate statement, Robach said she "was caught in a private moment of frustration" last summer as the Epstein story unfolded.
She said she was "upset that an important interview I had conducted with Virginia Roberts didn't air because we could not obtain sufficient corroborating evidence" to meet ABC's editorial standards.
"My comments about Prince Andrew and her allegation that she had seen Bill Clinton on Epstein's private island were in reference to what Virginia Roberts said in that interview in 2015.
"I was referencing her allegation - not what ABC News had verified through our reporting."
She added that "in the years since no one ever told me or the team to stop reporting" on Epstein.
Image captionABC journalist Amy Robach (left) and paedophile Jeffrey Epstein
Leaked footage shows a US TV anchor complaining that editors "quashed" a story about paedophile Jeffrey Epstein due to pressure from the Royal Family.
ABC's Amy Robach is seen in the clip griping that her interview with an alleged victim of Epstein and Prince Andrew never made it to air.
"The Palace found out and threatened us a million different ways," she says.
ABC News said there was "zero truth" to the claim, while Buckingham Palace told the BBC "this is a matter for ABC".
Epstein, a wealthy and well-connected financier, was found dead in a jail cell in August while awaiting trial for sex crimes. His death was ruled a suicide by investigators.
In the video, Ms Robach vents frustration that her 2015 interview with Virginia Giuffre - formerly Virginia Roberts - was never broadcast.
The clip was leaked on Tuesday by Project Veritas, a group that seeks to expose perceived liberal bias in the mainstream media.
Ms Giuffre, 35, alleges she was abused by Epstein and was ordered to have sex with powerful men including Prince Andrew, the Duke of York.
In court documents she said she was forced to have sex with the British royal on three separate occasions while she was under the legal age of consent.
Prince Andrew has denied having "any form of sexual contact or relationship" with Ms Giuffre.
In 2015, a judge ruled that the allegations made by Ms Giuffre regarding Prince Andrew were "immaterial and impertinent" and ordered them to be removed from a claim against Epstein.
Image captionMs Giuffre says she was abused by Prince Andrew several times
What does the video show?
"I've had this story for three years. I've had this interview with Virginia Roberts," says Robach, speaking to someone off-camera.
"We would not put it on the air. First of all, I was told, 'who's Jeffrey Epstein? No one knows who that is. This is a stupid story.'
"Then the Palace found out that we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us a million different ways.
"We were so afraid that we wouldn't be able to interview Kate and Will.
"That also quashed the story," the host of ABC's 20/20 programme added.
In a statement to BBC News a spokesperson for Buckingham Palace said it was "a matter for ABC".
Robach also says that the interview included allegations against former US President Bill Clinton.
"We had everything," she continues. "I tried for three years to get it on, to no avail.
"And now it's all coming out and it's like these new revelations and I freaking had all of it."
How have ABC responded?
In a statement after the footage leaked, ABC stood by its decision not to air the interview, saying the reporting did not meet its standards.
"But we have never stopped investigating the story," the statement continues, adding that "substantial resources" had been dedicated to investigating Epstein.
In a separate statement, Robach said she "was caught in a private moment of frustration" last summer as the Epstein story unfolded.
She said she was "upset that an important interview I had conducted with Virginia Roberts didn't air because we could not obtain sufficient corroborating evidence" to meet ABC's editorial standards.
"My comments about Prince Andrew and her allegation that she had seen Bill Clinton on Epstein's private island were in reference to what Virginia Roberts said in that interview in 2015.
"I was referencing her allegation - not what ABC News had verified through our reporting."
She added that "in the years since no one ever told me or the team to stop reporting" on Epstein.
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Prince Andrew to be quizzed on Epstein in Newsnight special
BBC to broadcast ‘no holds barred’ interview with royal on Saturday night
Jim Waterson Media editor
Fri 15 Nov 2019 09.16 GMTLast modified on Fri 15 Nov 2019 13.31 GMT
Emily Maitlis talks to Prince Andrew. Photograph: Mark Harrison/BBC
Prince Andrew has agreed to speak publicly for the first time about his friendship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, in a “no holds barred” interview with the BBC’s Newsnight programme to be broadcast on Saturday night.
The prince has been the subject of fierce speculation over his relationship with the financier, who was found dead in a New York jail cell three months ago.
Epstein’s accuser Virginia Giuffre claims Prince Andrew was “an abuser, a participant” in her exploitation as a teenager and says she was coerced to have sex with him.
The prince has previously strongly denied any inappropriate behaviour or being aware of any such behaviour by Epstein, but he has struggled to stop the flow of damaging claims. Newly released footage showed him at Epstein’s home in 2011 after the financier was released from a spell in jail.
Newsnight sources said the interview was a result of six months of negotiations with the royal household, with an agreement that there would not be any advance vetting of the questions.
The interview was conducted on Thursday at Buckingham Palace and the BBC has decided to broadcast a special edition of the show at 9pm on Saturday. It was conducted by the lead Newsnight presenter, Emily Maitlis, who promised it would be “no holds barred”.
The palace has until now relied on issuing strongly worded press statements, while some newspapers have reported “sources close to Prince Andrew” as saying that a photo of him with Giuffre was fake because his fingers were “much chubbier” in real life.
Giuffre claims she was made to have sex with Andrew in 2001 when she was 17 after being flown to London on a private jet. She has previously said that while he denies the claims, “he knows the truth and I know the truth”.
BBC to broadcast ‘no holds barred’ interview with royal on Saturday night
Jim Waterson Media editor
Fri 15 Nov 2019 09.16 GMTLast modified on Fri 15 Nov 2019 13.31 GMT
Emily Maitlis talks to Prince Andrew. Photograph: Mark Harrison/BBC
Prince Andrew has agreed to speak publicly for the first time about his friendship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, in a “no holds barred” interview with the BBC’s Newsnight programme to be broadcast on Saturday night.
The prince has been the subject of fierce speculation over his relationship with the financier, who was found dead in a New York jail cell three months ago.
Epstein’s accuser Virginia Giuffre claims Prince Andrew was “an abuser, a participant” in her exploitation as a teenager and says she was coerced to have sex with him.
The prince has previously strongly denied any inappropriate behaviour or being aware of any such behaviour by Epstein, but he has struggled to stop the flow of damaging claims. Newly released footage showed him at Epstein’s home in 2011 after the financier was released from a spell in jail.
Newsnight sources said the interview was a result of six months of negotiations with the royal household, with an agreement that there would not be any advance vetting of the questions.
The interview was conducted on Thursday at Buckingham Palace and the BBC has decided to broadcast a special edition of the show at 9pm on Saturday. It was conducted by the lead Newsnight presenter, Emily Maitlis, who promised it would be “no holds barred”.
The palace has until now relied on issuing strongly worded press statements, while some newspapers have reported “sources close to Prince Andrew” as saying that a photo of him with Giuffre was fake because his fingers were “much chubbier” in real life.
Giuffre claims she was made to have sex with Andrew in 2001 when she was 17 after being flown to London on a private jet. She has previously said that while he denies the claims, “he knows the truth and I know the truth”.
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I haven't watched the interview in full. Has Virginia Giuffre nee Roberts filed anything other than defamation suits? Such as civil suits for emotional distress etc against those men who should have been up for statutory rape (since she's been naming names)?
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As far as I know that's the only legal action she has taken so far.