Season 9 rewatch

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I've made it to season 9 in my multi year task. Really enjoyed season 8 more than I remember.

I know season 9 is basically unwatchable except for the great Gregory Harrison. My biggest gripe so far other than the stupid way Maggie dies is Angela hiring a detective to follow Pilar to find out she fooled around with Richard. What? Who cares? She fooled around with Malcolm St. Clair too. How would a private detective find out about a past affair anyway? Plus Richard was in jail.

Who wrote this garbage?

Also I hated Mark Lindsey whatever in Dallas and I hate him more here.
 

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I guess Maggie's death was supposed to parallel Chase's drowning 2 1/2 years before. (I just learned that Billy Moses had to pressure them not to drown Cole when he left -- so Giobertis drowning was an intentional motif).

There was a new writing team almost every year during the last half of FC's run, some of whom even bragged in the press that they'd never watched the show -- which is rarely a good sign. (I don't know if that was the case for the new Season 9 crew).

I still don't remember very much from Season 9 (and I'm still not convinced I actually saw all of it). Some people feel the writing improved -- and the writing had obviously been a problem for a while. My memory of it, shared by others, was that the vibe was just too different, that it just didn't feel like FALCON CREST, be it good FC or bad FC.

It became darker, yes, but not the right kind of darker -- more like a slick, soulless '90s type of thing (even though the '90s were barely there by Season 9).

Season 7 became too frenetic (maybe that where the name "Freilich" came from) and even Michael Filerman complained about it. CBS was frustrated with the ratings slide and called up Filerman and said, "fix it!" (or so the legend goes). Camille Marchetta and others came in for Season 8, returned to an orchestral score, and tried to get serious again, but turned the show from silly (Season 7) to kind of boring for Season 8. Ratings continued to spiral (lead-in DALLAS was plummeting, too) and the new team came in for Season 9, dumping the orchestral score once again and replacing it with a synthesized series of musical compositions.

Change is inevitable -- and necessary -- as a television series rolls along. But getting the balance right is the trick, and few new producers can do so -- or may even know (or care) to do so. That was the executive producers' responsibility, Filerman, but he failed at it (but he was no David Jacobs).

But I took the spiral of the big four '80s wealth-based nighttime serials rather personally. They started out with such promise, a promise everybody seemed to sense. But their last halves and their related collapses were painful indeed.

I recall one of my co-workers in the breakroom circa 1988 snarling, "those shows drive me up the wall!" She'd try to continue watching them, had watched for a few years, but their increasingly neurotic narratives she'd come to find pretty maddening.

No one disagreed with her. I chimed in (much as I do now). But these programs just seemed to lose their identities as the decade proceeded. They were no longer character dramas about rich families, but shrilly self-conscious metaphors for the '80s in some way, overly aware of their cultural significance but out of focus or creative steam. Still all dressed up but nowhere to go.

Which left the audience at home drooling in stunned disbelief at how none of them (except KNOTS) could tell a story anymore.



Unlike some, I did not mind the new arrangement of the theme music for Season 9 -- even if I was meh on the visuals:

 
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I’m not sure that they even paid attention to their own season.

Michael tells Richard they are second cousins, ok fine. How come when Michael and Angela meet they’ve never met before?

Later Michael mentions to Lauren that she’s a distant relative of Maggie? Which is it? Are they related to Richard or Maggie?
 

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As I have said before FALCON CREST 9 was like reinventing the wheel. A nonagon would leave a ride very uncomfortable and so to cut a long story cut that sums up the last year perfectly. Andrea Thompson and Gregory Harrison were the only newbies worth their salt. @juschill fasten your seat belt and have a sick bucket beside you for at least two atrocious episodes, in the name of FALCON CREST.





Lance and his banker wife (beautiful Pilar). Alas she just couldn't fill the void left by Melissa.




Lance is examining the acid content of grapes, in one of the Falcon Crest vineyards. Pilar arrives in their caramel coloured Mercedes SL; to speak to her husband, (a scene from season 9, 1989-'90):

Pilar: "For your information the old lady is having me followed."

Lance: "Hey that old lady happens to be my grandmother. Show a little respect."

Pilar: "Damn you! You're not listening to me. She hired someone to follow me."

Lance resumes his examination of the grapes: "Why you hiding something?"

Pilar: "Will you wake up! Angela is up to something, she's trying to come between us."

Lance: "Pilar hey nobody is going to come between us. Not ever!"

Pilar looks across the lush vineyards: "I just get so worried sometimes."

Lance: "Why?"

Pilar: "Cause I know that your grandmother still sees me as the little peasant girl down the road, running around in bare feet and a torn dirty dress."

Lance consoles Pilar: "Hey you're my wife. I'll take care of it!"
 

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I've made it to season 9 in my multi year task. Really enjoyed season 8 more than I remember.

I know season 9 is basically unwatchable except for the great Gregory Harrison. My biggest gripe so far other than the stupid way Maggie dies is Angela hiring a detective to follow Pilar to find out she fooled around with Richard. What? Who cares? She fooled around with Malcolm St. Clair too. How would a private detective find out about a past affair anyway? Plus Richard was in jail.

Who wrote this garbage?

Also I hated Mark Lindsey whatever in Dallas and I hate him more here.
1989 to 1990 season was mostly awful. Richard and Lance took a back seat so the show focused more on Michael Sharpe and Charley Saint James. Emma was a particular highlight for me, though. Damon Rossini or even Vince Karlotti should have reappeared, instead of rotten Charley.
 

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Pilar: "Cause I know that your grandmother still sees me as the little peasant girl down the road, running around in bare feet and a torn dirty dress."
How the Hispanics would like it. Pilar barefoot and dirty. Cesar seemed more polite than Gus. In one of the final episodes Pilar had lived on the streets of Chicago.
 

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Although Charley's departure may seem abrupt, it was already planned in the Bible for the ninth season.
In this @TJP interview in 2005 with David Sheinkopf who played Danny
There is an interesting comment
Thomas the show undergoing all those changes the final year, was the general mood on the set sort of sad? Was there any feeling of resignation among the cast members?
David I think there was like a little bit of ODIUM just because there were so many different changes and so many different storylines going on. They [the producers] were trying to bring a new face to the show, trying to bring in a new audience, trying to make it a little bit younger.!!!
Jerry Thorpe hired David that's why he tries to excuse him
There is also this comment
How did you personally experience those changes? Were there any special reactions from fans, like in the mail, or was there any other kind of feedback you received?
I got a lot of fan mail. Most of it was pretty positive. People liked my character, and they liked the addition to the show. They liked the relationship between me and Carla Gugino. It seemed to be taken quite well by most of the fans.
Well, that's great, especially because there were some characters in season 9 people did not like at all, like Andrea Thompson's character, Genele Ericson, for example. She was, as we know from fan mail, a character that didn't really fit into the show, and people were quite hesitant specifically
Poor Andre a was a good actress but the character was hateful until she confessed to Father Bob 9-13. And she became a second Terry
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The creators this season did not even respect their own story let alone prior seasons.

Genele after Danny’s accident: “Michael I need to know what you’re capable of.”

You literally murdered your own sister over Frank Agretti and you’re worried about an accident caused by Michael? That’s where the line is drawn?
 

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I don’t even think they tried this season. Michael is related to Richard, then Maggie. They waste half a season on Charlie. Waste Danny being there just to overbook it by saying he’s Richard’s son. Richard, who spent his formative years in Europe somehow met up with Michael Sharpe’s wife to be and carried on an affair with her, around the same time he would have been married to Lorraine’s mother.

I so hate what they did to this show in the end. I wish Gregory Harrison would have showed up earlier but the rest of this season can GFY.
 

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The utmost respect to Wendy Phillips but she hadn't the charisma of Susan Sullivan. Danny's mother should have joined earlier. Much too late in joining to have any impact. I believe she had the potential to be a great character.
 

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The utmost respect to Wendy Phillips but she hadn't the charisma of Susan Sullivan. Danny's mother should have joined earlier. Much too late in joining to have any impact. I believe she had the potential to be a great character.
100% agree. Season 9 writers had no idea about the show and its characters, they just went on a big ego trip to make their own series under the FC brand. The Lauren character didn´t eat dog food at least...
 

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I’m finally finished after a years long journey to rewatch all of Falcon Crest.

Other than Gregory Harrison there is nothing good I can say about season 9. Maybe the worst part was overbooking the Danny story. Now he’s Richard’s son even though Richard should have been in Europe at the point Danny was conceived. Or at least married to Lorraine’s mother.

I hated everything about Lauren.

Hate how they emasculated Lance.

Rivaling the worst development was the Charley storyline.

Genele/Frank is right behind that.

I wonder if Jane Wyman would have fought this season if she had not been in poor health.

The Gioberti family was revealed to be insignificant in the Falcon Crest story.

Such a disaster to finish off what was a great show for six of the first eight seasons.
 

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I wonder if Jane Wyman would have fought this season if she had not been in poor health.

It should be common knowledge by now that Jane's health was not the real reason for her temporarily being written off. Just like in Susan's case, she and Lorimar just agreed on telling the media the usual "we-still-have-the best-relationship" story, which has always been common in the entertainment industry. As Victoria LaFortune revealed in our interview, Jane (who was the only cast member to get the bible in advance) was so disgusted by the storylines of season 9 that — although she still intended to work against her doctor's advice — asked the producers to kill off her character. In the end, Lorimar convinced her of the coma solution, but she was more than disappointed about the development and that she even had to sell to the media season 9 was promising.
 

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If Angela was going to appear in every episode of season 9, I assume the budget was already set when the bible was written. What happened to the money set aside for Jane Wyman? Was it invested in other actors or more locations, or did the producers split it among themselves?
 

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If Angela was going to appear in every episode of season 9, I assume the budget was already set when the bible was written. What happened to the money set aside for Jane Wyman? Was it invested in other actors or more locations, or did the producers split it among themselves?

As usual in the industry, Jane was paid for every single episode of season 9 regardless of her appearance because she was a main cast member in the main titles with a minimum guarantee for all episodes produced. Lorimar had a "pay or play" clause — the terminology is a bit misleading, but that clause stipulates that the talent must play in an episode or remain out of an episode at the producers' discretion, but must definitely be paid.

It is the same clause that guaranteed Ana Alicia the full salary for season 8 for her Melissa character although she was written off in the second episode.
As Ana Alicia stated herself, she got an additional per-episode salary for her Samantha rôle because it was a different part.
This is all in accordance with SAG standard rules.

It was different in Susan's case though since her contract expired at the end of season 8 and was not renewed. She was only offered to appear in two additional episodes in season 9 and was paid for these on the basis of an episodic assignment. Although she wasn't fired (legally speaking), she was terminated because the new producers led her to believe her contract would be renewed shortly before production began. It was only until the first script of season 9 was delivered to her when she found out she would be terminated. Susan's projected per-episode salary was used to hire three new cast members (Wendy Phillips. Andrea Thompson and Gregory Harrison).
 

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Michael mentions to Lauren that she’s a distant relative of Maggie? Which is it? Are they related to Richard or Maggie?
I'm currently watching season 9 and just recently saw that episode. Michael meant that Lauren was given Richard's children to foster because Maggie, as Richard's wife, was a distant relative of Lauren.

I think this is the first time I'm watching season 9 since the original run and I was excited to see how I would feel about two actresses that I've seen in two other series since then and found them quite convincing there: Wendy Phillips in Promised Land and Andrea Thompson in NYPD Blue. I think Lauren is better than I remembered, but Wendy Phillips kind of preaches to people in Falcon Crest, like in Promised Land, but in the spin-off of Touched by an Angel it was exactly what you wanted to see, while it doesn't fit in with Falcon Crest. While I can still find something positive about Wendy Phillips, I can't say the same about Andrea Thompson. Genele is more horrible than I remembered and her relationship with Frank makes no sense at all. I kind of get Emma and Charley as a couple, but not Genele and Frank. And could it be that Renee's body was buried on the Agretti estate? Frank was looking for it there, but Genele had already taken it somewhere else.

Michael Shape is also not as good as I remember. He is still the best of the new villains/psychos on the show, but his appearance is often so exaggerated that it no longer seems believable.

Positive about Falcon Crest's final season compared to the final seasons of the other big soaps is that the story moves forward. Dynasty dragged out a murder mystery for an entire season, while on Falcon Crest you didn't have to think about who was killed by whom, the murders just happened, so despite all the bad, sometimes very bad plots, season 9 is not boring.
 
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