Dallas Pictures Visiting Southfork Ranch: A Magical (and Occasionally Confusing) Pilgrimage

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I’ve seen a few of these threads in the past but not recently.

Earlier this year, I finally made the pilgrimage to Southfork Ranch and it was magical—well, at least the exterior was! Overall, I absolutely loved the experience, though I did have a few things I found confusing or disappointing, which I’ll outline here. If there had been a feedback form, I would’ve filled it out, but instead, here are my thoughts!

Driving up the road to the ranch and seeing it in person for the first time was surreal. I was like, OMG, I’m here!—it’s the same iconic drive the characters took in the show. Seeing the house, the driveway, and the surrounding property made the fictional world feel real in a way that was truly special.

The museum was a nice addition, though the family tree raised some questions—why aren’t Gary and Valene’s twins mentioned? It’s odd, especially since Knots Landing characters were referenced in TNT Dallas. That inconsistency felt strange.

Unfortunately, the gift shop was a total letdown. I had been ready to spend money on a nice sweatshirt, mug etc. but the merchandise was generic and boring, all branded with TNT Dallas font. Why weren’t they selling DVDs of the original show or TNT show? Members of my group—some mild fans, some complete newbies—wanted to watch the series but couldn’t stream it easily as non-Americans. DVDs would’ve been perfect. I left empty-handed.

Visiting in the summer, the ranch was quiet, which, as a fan, was amazing. The solitude let me soak in the atmosphere—standing in the field, by the pool, or under the trees. The vibe was immaculate. I can’t imagine they make much revenue from tourism compared to events or ranching, but as a fan, the quiet made it magical.

Seeing Southfork in person gave me a much better understanding of the property’s layout and how the characters spatially moved around. For instance, the long driveway from the main road makes more sense now, and the front of the house (rarely shown except for Gary and Valene’s scene) is easier understood now. I also loved standing by the pool and taking it all in—so iconic.

The house tour itself was interesting but a mixed bag. While I didn’t expect the interior to match the show—I’d seen enough photos to know it didn’t—it was still surprising how odd the layout was. For example:
  • Why does the dining room have no windows?
  • Why is there a random rocking horse in Bobby’s bedroom? We know what the characters’ bedrooms looked like on the show, so it felt strange that the current decor didn’t match. Aligning the interiors more closely with the series would feel more immersive.
The guide’s explanations about filming were confusing. One moment, we were told scenes were filmed in the house, then we were told none were, then that the first film or the TNT Dallas series used it. I left unclear about what was actually filmed there. Also, why would they film a TNT Dallas hospital scene in the garage area instead of a soundstage?

Some stories shared by the guide were outright questionable/offensive, like Jim Davis dying on set with Charlene Tilton and Steve Kanaly by his side, or that Larry Hagman and Linda Gray struggled with the high bed after drinking. If they didn’t even film inside the house, what was the guide talking about? Or straight up Victoria was fired? I also found it odd that they didn’t mention the Cloyce Box Ranch or refer to the house as Duncan Acres, even though those are significant parts of the history.

The timeline of the house’s ownership and its connection to the show was murky too. It was owned by the Duncan family, then someone else, then bankruptcy happened and they weren't allowed to film anymore? But the show never ceased production. How did that work?

There were a lot of little things that stood out:
  • The garage roofline was surprisingly low— I'm surprised Patrick Duffy didn't look huge standing there!
  • I didn’t see the gravestones. Were they there, or did I miss them?
  • The balcony was inaccessible. Is that always the case? I’d have loved to go out onto it.
  • They should better signpost things like the cars so visitors know to look at them.
  • The guide mentioned a n*de bathtub scene with Linda Gray, but I have no memory of Sue Ellen being in a bathtub. Mandy, yes, but Sue Ellen?
On the bright side, seeing the house and imagining how characters moved through it tied the fictional and real spaces together in a fascinating way.

After visiting Southfork, we went to Billy Bob’s, the Fort Worth Stockyards, and into Dallas to see some of the real filming locations. It was such a blast exploring these places and connecting them to the show.

 
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Thank you @Miss Texas 1967 for sharing with us your visit to Southfork. I hope to make it there one day. With regards to the interior, it's a pity the owners simply don't gut the place and mirror the series we grew up with. I'm not talking upstairs but downstairs to reflect the beautiful Georgian Mansion on 4800 Park Lane, Dallas.

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This was the original property used to film the interior Southfork scenes. This is how the property looked when it was placed on the market in 2016. It's how I envisage Southfork to look today. A timeless classic befitting the Ewing family.
 

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Thank you @Miss Texas 1967 for sharing with us your visit to Southfork. I hope to make it there one day. With regards to the interior, it's a pity the owners simply don't gut the place and mirror the series we grew up with. I'm not talking upstairs but downstairs to reflect the beautiful Georgian Mansion on 4800 Park Lane, Dallas.

This was the original property used to film the interior Southfork scenes. This is how the property looked when it was placed on the market in 2016. It's how I envisage Southfork to look today. A timeless classic befitting the Ewing family.
I really wish someone would invest money into redoing the interior. It's decades too late considering the lack of people visiting but it would be absolutely awesome to walk into an immersive experience.
 

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Thanks for sharing your photos. I am so glad you had such a great visit at Southfork. :spinning::pals:

Also the gravestones are at Southfork. But closer to Elena's cottage/the stables.
Aw man I totally missed these then. I would've gone to have a look had I been able to see them.
 

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It's gonna be a Super-Walmart in about 18 months. :(
The development around the ranch didn't really bother me as it was far enough away and quiet enough that you really didn't feel much suburbia while on property. Wouldn't want to see it get much much smaller though.
The land across the street is rural with nothing on it, is that to be developed?
 

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I would have thought the city of Dallas would have some type of heritage order slapped on the house itself as being of significant cultural interest. Until Dallas and the Ewing family came along the city was known for the assassination of President Kennedy. Not exactly the type of thing the city would be proud of.

I really wish someone would invest money into redoing the interior. It's decades too late considering the lack of people visiting but it would be absolutely awesome to walk into an immersive experience.
I'd imagine to accommodate Lorimar Southfork some structural work would need to be done. When Southfork was purchased and turned into a wedding/conference centre that would have been the perfect time to replicate the downstairs in it's own building adjacent to the current wedding/conference building. I think that would have been a cheaper option and would more than satisfy the tourists.
 

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I would have thought the city of Dallas would have some type of heritage order slapped on the house itself as being of significant cultural interest. Until Dallas and the Ewing family came along the city was known for the assassination of President Kennedy. Not exactly the type of thing the city would be proud of.

Actually, there are ongoing efforts to obliterate Dealey Plaza, too.

 
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No spooky encounters with JR's ghost? That's disappointing.

Larry always said he wanted his ashes -- post-mortem, I think (that kinky perv-monster) -- cooked in a cake and fed to his friends.

But I guess California law forbade it. (I've had my parents' ashes on the piano bench for six years, so I could probably still do it, if I wasn't too lazy to bake).

Where did they scatter him? Maybe if they'd dumped him on Southfork, an ectoplasmic manifestation might've happened...

 

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Larry always said he wanted his ashes -- post-mortem, I think (that kinky perv-monster) -- cooked in a cake and fed to his friends.

But I guess California law forbade it. (I've had my parents' ashes on the piano bench for six years, so I could probably still do it, if I wasn't too lazy to bake).

Where did they scatter him? Maybe if they'd dumped him on Southfork, an ectoplasmic manifestation might've happened...


And, speaking of which...



Soap star Linda Gray to return to her old Dallas haunt as a ghost​

The veteran actress has signed on to co-produce a romantic comedy in which she will appear as the mischief-making spirit of her old character.​


By Mike Parker
16:12, Sun, Oct 6, 2024


Linda Gray

Dallas star Linda Gray is planning to return to TV's famous Southfork Ranch (Image: Getty)



Iconic Dallas star Linda Gray is planning to return to TV's famous Southfork Ranch - as a ghost.

The veteran actress, 84, who played JR Ewing's long-suffering wife Sue Ellen in the 80s US soap, has signed on to co-produce a romantic comedy in which she will also appear as the mischief-making spirit of her old character.

Insiders say she is also hoping to recruit fellow Dallas star Patrick Duffy, 75, who played her brother-in-law Bobby Ewing in the show that ended in 1991 after 13 years.

Linda wants him to appear alongside her in the as-yet untitled movie as her "poltergeist partner", a senior production source says.

They added: "She wants him to take a final bow with her at the location where they both became household names in the 1980s."

The main plot line in the script, written by When You Step Upon a Star author Will Keck, focuses on a fictitious Taylor Swift-style pop princess who hires Southfork to shoot a music video for a Christmasiconic themed song. But her efforts are thwarted by "supernatural squatters" who are now the only inhabitants of the sprawling ranch house once home to the Ewings.

Linda, who also appeared in a short-lived Dallas comeback between 2012 and 2014, has not publicly commented on the planned rom-com, which is due to start shooting later this year.

But our source said: "She was disappointed when the reboot ended with her character Sue Ellen falling off the wagon and feels it left a sour taste in the mouths of many fans.

"Her new film isn't going to be a fullblown continuation of the Ewing saga but she's hoping Patrick will team up with her to give those fans the closure they never got - with a few laughs on the way."


Soap star Linda Gray to return to her old Dallas haunt as a ghost | Celebrity News | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk
 
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And, speaking of which...



Soap star Linda Gray to return to her old Dallas haunt as a ghost​

The veteran actress has signed on to co-produce a romantic comedy in which she will appear as the mischief-making spirit of her old character.​


By Mike Parker
16:12, Sun, Oct 6, 2024


Linda Gray

Dallas star Linda Gray is planning to return to TV's famous Southfork Ranch (Image: Getty)



Iconic Dallas star Linda Gray is planning to return to TV's famous Southfork Ranch - as a ghost.

The veteran actress, 84, who played JR Ewing's long-suffering wife Sue Ellen in the 80s US soap, has signed on to co-produce a romantic comedy in which she will also appear as the mischief-making spirit of her old character.

Insiders say she is also hoping to recruit fellow Dallas star Patrick Duffy, 75, who played her brother-in-law Bobby Ewing in the show that ended in 1991 after 13 years.

Linda wants him to appear alongside her in the as-yet untitled movie as her "poltergeist partner", a senior production source says.

They added: "She wants him to take a final bow with her at the location where they both became household names in the 1980s."

The main plot line in the script, written by When You Step Upon a Star author Will Keck, focuses on a fictitious Taylor Swift-style pop princess who hires Southfork to shoot a music video for a Christmasiconic themed song. But her efforts are thwarted by "supernatural squatters" who are now the only inhabitants of the sprawling ranch house once home to the Ewings.

Linda, who also appeared in a short-lived Dallas comeback between 2012 and 2014, has not publicly commented on the planned rom-com, which is due to start shooting later this year.

But our source said: "She was disappointed when the reboot ended with her character Sue Ellen falling off the wagon and feels it left a sour taste in the mouths of many fans.

"Her new film isn't going to be a fullblown continuation of the Ewing saga but she's hoping Patrick will team up with her to give those fans the closure they never got - with a few laughs on the way."


Soap star Linda Gray to return to her old Dallas haunt as a ghost | Celebrity News | Showbiz & TV | Express.co.uk
That sounds fanficcy....
 

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I'm glad to hear you found the experience enjoyable @Miss Texas 1967 and @Laurie Marr. I'm planning on going in the not too distant future but sod's law there is going to be a housing development. I just hope it doesn't impact too much on SOUTHFORK and all things DALLAS. We've been told that won't be the case but time can only tell. Fingers and toes crossed there is not too much impact, down the road. Ole Jock Ewing would have something to say: "What in the world is going on and who in the hell do those boys think they are? That's six stick pastures, for my prize longhorns."




Jock joins Ellie on the Southfork patio, as she looks up at the night sky. The rest of the family are out socialising. Ellie is thinking very deeply, one month after her turbulent mastectomy, (a scene from season 2; DVD-3, 1979 - '80):

JOCK: "You all right, Miss Ellie? Get you a sweater or something?"

ELLIE: "No, Jock. Thanks!"

JOCK: "Well, it’s getting kind of nippy out. Be winter soon."

ELLIE: "Too soon."

JOCK: "Well, it’s sure quiet here around tonight. Even Lucy’s out."

ELLIE: "It’s too quiet. I like it better when there’s family around. We’re all drifting apart, Jock. It’s not at all the way I pictured it."

JOCK: "How did you picture it, Miss Ellie?"

ELLIE: "Oh, I don’t know. Seeing it the way it was when the boys were growing up. Only there’d be our grandchildren. The two of us here with the boys and their families. One very large, happy family."

JOCK: "Well, we’ve got Lucy; little baby John, Bobby, J.R. Gary’s doing fine in California. Bobby’s going into business with J.R. It’ll give us more time to be together. To do the things that we’ve talked about and never did."

ELLIE: "Maybe that’s something else we pictured that won’t ever happen."

JOCK: "Why not, Miss Ellie? I loved you all these years and I want to end up my life with you. It’s a time of life that I’ve been looking forward to."

ELLIE: "I wish I could feel that way."

JOCK: "But you should Ellie. No matter what else has happened, we’ve still got each other. Remember that!"

ELLIE: "Not like we used to."
 

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It occured to me that Ellie was the only one we never saw on a horse. We did see JR on a horse once in the second to the finale season.
 
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