Watching Season 10 - Bobby's Return

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Bobby seems to be acting awfully high handed in his first scene with JR. He tells JR that he's marrying Pam again and the first time JR steps out of line, Sue Ellen will be a very attractive widow. There's no way around this; it's a death threat to his own brother! Besides that, Bobby is talking as if he has more experience in Ewing Oil than JR does. Jock and Miss Ellie apparently never taught Bobby to respect his elders, and that making death threats to family members is just something you don't do. Bobby even tries to rationalize his divorce from Pam as happening because of "too much interference from family members." I remember it as Pam leaving because she couldn't stand the type of man Bobby had become and blaming him for her mother's plane crash. She said he wasn't the same man she married. Frankly I never saw Bobby act any differently when he was supposed to be the ""good" Bobby or the "bad" Bobby. He acted pretty much the same, disrespecting his elders, assaulting JR whenever he felt like it, threatening people with physical violence to get his way, and for some reason never doing any of that to Cliff despite Cliff actually trying to break up Bobby and Pam. That would have been too enjoyable to watch I guess.
 

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Bobby seems to be acting awfully high handed in his first scene with JR. He tells JR that he's marrying Pam again and the first time JR steps out of line, Sue Ellen will be a very attractive widow. There's no way around this; it's a death threat to his own brother! Besides that, Bobby is talking as if he has more experience in Ewing Oil than JR does. Jock and Miss Ellie apparently never taught Bobby to respect his elders, and that making death threats to family members is just something you don't do. Bobby even tries to rationalize his divorce from Pam as happening because of "too much interference from family members." I remember it as Pam leaving because she couldn't stand the type of man Bobby had become and blaming him for her mother's plane crash. She said he wasn't the same man she married. Frankly I never saw Bobby act any differently when he was supposed to be the ""good" Bobby or the "bad" Bobby. He acted pretty much the same, disrespecting his elders, assaulting JR whenever he felt like it, threatening people with physical violence to get his way, and for some reason never doing any of that to Cliff despite Cliff actually trying to break up Bobby and Pam. That would have been too enjoyable to watch I guess.
Bobby was always like: "I'm gonna tear you apart!" I swear, I could have sworn he actually sort of growled at Cliff once before Pam talked him out of hitting him again! Bobby needed anger management big time. I would never get away with hitting my older sister like he did to JR! I would have liked to see JR start punching back instead of always taking that kind of crap from Bobby!
 

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JR is just mad at him cause by the look of this picture Patrick Duffy discovered hair Gel cause it looks better than it used he he
 

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I think that they were trying to create as much drama as possible between Bobby and JR as soon a possible to make it clear to the viewer that Bobby was back. Bobby def wimped our very quickly as the new season progressed.....
 

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Currently on a re-watch mission and I find it unbelievable/unrealistic how Sue Ellen has magically stopped drinking after the whole detox prison scene in the dream season. Obviously the writers wouldn't have wanted to re-create the rehab storyline but the way they dismissed her addiction in season 10 was dumb.
 

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They should have planned better of what's to come next season. When season 11 premiered it felt like they had just decided what would happen. Weststar for example: Looking back they should have introduced Kimberly as Jeremy Wendell's wife in season 10, like some one time appearance at the Oil Baron's Ball, where she met the Ewings. She and Jeremy could have had a long distance relationship because she was taking care of her sick father elsewhere, so it made sense that she wasn't around, but they could bring her back anytime they want. JR seducing Jeremy's wife in season 11 would have been great, rest of Kimberly's story (her father's Weststar connection, teaming up with Sue Ellen for revenge) could remain the same. Transition from season 10 to season 11 wasn't smoothly at all.
 
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This season was a turd to get through. Bobby and Pam's fire is gone. So off.
One thing I noticed or perhaps just missed it, Pam's car accident was always preceded by those rednecks harassing her then she crashes. From what I just saw, she is talking to Bobby on the phone, boom. Truck pulls out in front of her- toasted Barnes.... the rednecks were deleted.... good.
 

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Now a side order of burnt Barnes.

This would have been the perfect time to introduce the Pamela recast. We know she would look different, perfect way to bring her in. New character basically. Instead of the mummy horseshit.
 

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Bobby was always like: "I'm gonna tear you apart!" I swear, I could have sworn he actually sort of growled at Cliff once before Pam talked him out of hitting him again! Bobby needed anger management big time. I would never get away with hitting my older sister like he did to JR! I would have liked to see JR start punching back instead of always taking that kind of crap from Bobby!
I can hear Jock say the same thing my dad would say, "No one hits anyone in my family but me, no matter what." Of course that what was so great about Jock, even at his age, he could handle both boys. His role was really missed and why I believed when the fight for EO was over, they needed to settle down into JR as the patriarch of the family - that role was needed in my opinion, plus JR was too old at that point for me to find his sleeping around anything but creepy and even in the movies they wouldn't let it go.
 

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Bobby seems to be acting awfully high handed in his first scene with JR. He tells JR that he's marrying Pam again and the first time JR steps out of line, Sue Ellen will be a very attractive widow. There's no way around this; it's a death threat to his own brother! Besides that, Bobby is talking as if he has more experience in Ewing Oil than JR does. Jock and Miss Ellie apparently never taught Bobby to respect his elders, and that making death threats to family members is just something you don't do. Bobby even tries to rationalize his divorce from Pam as happening because of "too much interference from family members." I remember it as Pam leaving because she couldn't stand the type of man Bobby had become and blaming him for her mother's plane crash. She said he wasn't the same man she married. Frankly I never saw Bobby act any differently when he was supposed to be the ""good" Bobby or the "bad" Bobby. He acted pretty much the same, disrespecting his elders, assaulting JR whenever he felt like it, threatening people with physical violence to get his way, and for some reason never doing any of that to Cliff despite Cliff actually trying to break up Bobby and Pam. That would have been too enjoyable to watch I guess.
That's what made Bobby fun and slightly dishonest in comparison to JR who never denied his wrongdoings. Bobby would let his temper rip and then blame JR for it. He would get all holier than thou and blame others. The Walt Driscoll situation was JR and the show as a whole that surmised Bobby and Ray's holier than thou attitudes towards JR... a fascinating moment for JR as he slaps his brothers down with some cold hard truth and they are left.... duhhhhhhh. JR was not the cause of Driscoll, they ALL were responsible but Bobby is the one who pushed him over the edge. Not JR.
 

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That's what made Bobby fun and slightly dishonest in comparison to JR who never denied his wrongdoings. Bobby would let his temper rip and then blame JR for it. He would get all holier than thou and blame others. The Walt Driscoll situation was JR and the show as a whole that surmised Bobby and Ray's holier than thou attitudes towards JR... a fascinating moment for JR as he slaps his brothers down with some cold hard truth and they are left.... duhhhhhhh. JR was not the cause of Driscoll, they ALL were responsible but Bobby is the one who pushed him over the edge. Not JR.
Yeah as JR told both of them:

"None of us have clean hands boys!"

He was quite right about that, because of their sting operation Driscoll rammed JR's car setting off the whole series of events of Mickey dying from his injuries sustained in that car collision.

Sometimes Bobby and Ray were no better than JR! :(
 

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Now a side order of burnt Barnes.

This would have been the perfect time to introduce the Pamela recast. We know she would look different, perfect way to bring her in. New character basically. Instead of the mummy horseshit.
I don't think they wanted to do that after the negative reaction they got with Donna Reed as Miss Ellie.

Personally I probably would've been fine with a Pam recast. Margaret Michaels was lovely.

The recent reaction by the fans to Steve Forrest as Jock maybe didn't help either.

However they really missed an opportunity not to keep Steve Forrest as Jock which was a great shame. :(
 

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I've always believed that a much better way to return the character of Bobby Ewing to the canvas, would have been to have his death have been a complete ruse, staged by Katherine.

Once you consider all the missing "details" we didn't see on screen, having the whole "death" ultimately explained - as a "Katherine scheme" - which was - at first - to kill Pam - wouldn't have been that difficult to - all all - recreate.

So, how you explain Katherine's evil plan and the truth that Bobby isn't actually dead?

We start with the facts already in evidence. Since audience did see Katherine in her car - watching the house as Pam turned off the living room light - realizing the couple had reconciled their relationship - her resulting rage led her to hatch-a-plan - to kill Pam the next morning and fake her own death - to escape punishment.

Remember - Katherine had millions & millions of dollars to carry out whatever nasty scheme she wanted - and don't forget - it was Katherine who paid for Naldo's murder and framed Jenna Wade for the deed - earlier that season - so it was already shown to the audience that she did have "connections" to get whatever evil deed she wanted done - accomplished.

So - back to Pam's house - Katherine has about eight hours to arrange this plot, which is plenty of time if she already had people in place - ready to assist her.

Since Katherine knows Pam's habit of walking her guests out of her house, she realizes that Pam will certainly walk Bobby out and into the driveway, that next morning and she figures that hitting Pam with her car and killing her - shouldn't be that difficult a task.

Wasting no time, Katherine puts her plan into motion. First off, she has her car fitted with a special harness, that will keep her in place - once she hits Pam - even though she knows she needs a "friendly place to land" - after the hit.

Thinking quickly, Katherine was doubtful that Pam actually knew her gardener's schedule, so it wasn't a big risk to have one arrive that next morning (who was on Katherine's payroll) and begin work. She surmised that the gardener's truck would be the perfect thing to hit - after plowing into Pam - and that the gardener would provide a person to declare her dead, plus her stage-makeup-faked injuries would be on full display, to add even more realness to the action.

Then, like clockwork - phony EMT's would suddenly arrive to take the "dead" Katherine away - quickly leaving the scene before the actual EMT's arrive to tend to the fatally injured Pam.

It was a perfect plan, except that Bobby pushed Pam out of the way and he took the force of the blow of the car - upon himself.
And it makes perfect sense that Katherine wouldn't have even had a notion of that happening, since she truly doesn't understand the fact that Bobby loves Pam - so much - he would willingly die in her place.

Upset as she was about Bobby being hit, the very-much-alive Katherine still realized there was still a chance for her to "steal" a helpless Bobby for herself, so she again went into action, from the first moments the doors of the medical van, shut tight.

While the true EMT's arrived at the scene and took Bobby to Dallas Memorial Hospital, Katherine instructed her goons to work double-time to secure the services of various unethical doctors & nurses - who were already known to be eager to cash in - on multi-million dollar paychecks - if the occasion ever presented itself.

And while Bobby truly was critically injured - his surgery had been successful enough to insure his continued life, even if all involved were instructed to downplay the positive results of the surgery and his chances of survival.

The devices around Bobby's bedside were "rigged" to stage a cardiac arrest - which Katherine knew would send the family into a downward emotional spiral that would make them easy targets of the various bought & paid for staff - allowing them cover to get Bobby out of the hospital and onto Katherine's medical helicopter and eventually - into a private clinic - where he could recover - under Katherine's watchful eye.

Faking the funeral arrangements would be a piece-of-cake, for Katherine - she simply faked a dead body to resemble Bobby's corpse and it's this poor unknown soul, who is buried on Southfork, near Bobby's treehouse.

So - back to the cliffhanger:
Instead of Pam's opening the door to see Bobby in the shower - the last scene of that season - shows perfectly healthy & strong Bobby James Ewing coming out of a beautiful ocean scene, where he had gone for a swim (yes, much like Patrick did on the "Man from Atlantis") and quickly jumping into Katherine's overwhelmingly happy, loving embrace, with him, saying something like, "My life - with you - it's just like this place - it's almost paradise...".

DaDUM !!

Was Bobby brainwashed?
OR - does he have a brain injury due to the clash with Katherine's car?
OR - is Bobby conning Katherine - waiting for a chance to escape?
OR - does someone eventually finds Bobby - then they have to prove to him, that his life with Katherine is a hoax?

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Yeah as JR told both of them:

"None of us have clean hands boys!"

He was quite right about that, because of their sting operation Driscoll rammed JR's car setting off the whole series of events of Mickey dying from his injuries sustained in that car collision.

Sometimes Bobby and Ray were no better than JR! :(
J.R.'s scheme was just aimed at Driscoll, the holier-than-thou twins, ensnaring Mickey, Sue Ellen, Lucy.

I've always believed that a much better way to return the character of Bobby Ewing to the canvas, would have been to have his death have been a complete ruse, staged by Katherine.

Once you consider all the missing "details" we didn't see on screen, having the whole "death" ultimately explained - as a "Katherine scheme" - which was - at first - to kill Pam - wouldn't have been that difficult to - all all - recreate.

So, how you explain Katherine's evil plan and the truth that Bobby isn't actually dead?

We start with the facts already in evidence. Since audience did see Katherine in her car - watching the house as Pam turned off the living room light - realizing the couple had reconciled their relationship - her resulting rage led her to hatch-a-plan - to kill Pam the next morning and fake her own death - to escape punishment.

Remember - Katherine had millions & millions of dollars to carry out whatever nasty scheme she wanted - and don't forget - it was Katherine who paid for Naldo's murder and framed Jenna Wade for the deed - earlier that season - so it was already shown to the audience that she did have "connections" to get whatever evil deed she wanted done - accomplished.

So - back to Pam's house - Katherine has about eight hours to arrange this plot, which is plenty of time if she already had people in place - ready to assist her.

Since Katherine knows Pam's habit of walking her guests out of her house, she realizes that Pam will certainly walk Bobby out and into the driveway, that next morning and she figures that hitting Pam with her car and killing her - shouldn't be that difficult a task.

Wasting no time, Katherine puts her plan into motion. First off, she has her car fitted with a special harness, that will keep her in place - once she hits Pam - even though she knows she needs a "friendly place to land" - after the hit.

Thinking quickly, Katherine was doubtful that Pam actually knew her gardener's schedule, so it wasn't a big risk to have one arrive that next morning (who was on Katherine's payroll) and begin work. She surmised that the gardener's truck would be the perfect thing to hit - after plowing into Pam - and that the gardener would provide a person to declare her dead, plus her stage-makeup-faked injuries would be on full display, to add even more realness to the action.

Then, like clockwork - phony EMT's would suddenly arrive to take the "dead" Katherine away - quickly leaving the scene before the actual EMT's arrive to tend to the fatally injured Pam.

It was a perfect plan, except that Bobby pushed Pam out of the way and he took the force of the blow of the car - upon himself.
And it makes perfect sense that Katherine wouldn't have even had a notion of that happening, since she truly doesn't understand the fact that Bobby loves Pam - so much - he would willingly die in her place.

Upset as she was about Bobby being hit, the very-much-alive Katherine still realized there was still a chance for her to "steal" a helpless Bobby for herself, so she again went into action, from the first moments the doors of the medical van, shut tight.

While the true EMT's arrived at the scene and took Bobby to Dallas Memorial Hospital, Katherine instructed her goons to work double-time to secure the services of various unethical doctors & nurses - who were already known to be eager to cash in - on multi-million dollar paychecks - if the occasion ever presented itself.

And while Bobby truly was critically injured - his surgery had been successful enough to insure his continued life, even if all involved were instructed to downplay the positive results of the surgery and his chances of survival.

The devices around Bobby's bedside were "rigged" to stage a cardiac arrest - which Katherine knew would send the family into a downward emotional spiral that would make them easy targets of the various bought & paid for staff - allowing them cover to get Bobby out of the hospital and onto Katherine's medical helicopter and eventually - into a private clinic - where he could recover - under Katherine's watchful eye.

Faking the funeral arrangements would be a piece-of-cake, for Katherine - she simply faked a dead body to resemble Bobby's corpse and it's this poor unknown soul, who is buried on Southfork, near Bobby's treehouse.

So - back to the cliffhanger:
Instead of Pam's opening the door to see Bobby in the shower - the last scene of that season - shows perfectly healthy & strong Bobby James Ewing coming out of a beautiful ocean scene, where he had gone for a swim (yes, much like Patrick did on the "Man from Atlantis") and quickly jumping into Katherine's overwhelmingly happy, loving embrace, with him, saying something like, "My life - with you - it's just like this place - it's almost paradise...".

DaDUM !!

Was Bobby brainwashed?
OR - does he have a brain injury due to the clash with Katherine's car?
OR - is Bobby conning Katherine - waiting for a chance to escape?
OR - does someone eventually finds Bobby - then they have to prove to him, that his life with Katherine is a hoax?

;0)
Wow! That frustrating part is you put more thought and heart into it than that idiot Katzman and his hacks. Katherine was always dismissed too quickly.
 

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I love this game!

The scene plays out the same- except we don't see who the driver is- Katherine? Nah. An unknown driver.
The cliffhanger plays out the same, mostly. Is Bobby dead?
Season premiere says Yes, sorta...

I always hated the Dallas shower retcon. It insulted the audience and erased real emotion.

Here’s how Bobby Ewing’s “death” should’ve been resolved.

The car accident happens the same way. Pam is pushed aside. Bobby is hit. We never see the driver. Chaos. Cliffhanger.

Doctors declare Bobby dead. The family grieves. Pam is shattered.

But then—alone in the hospital hallway—Pam sees Bobby’s gurney roll past. As the elevator doors close, Bobby sits up. She sees it. We see it. No dream. No ambiguity.

Everyone tells Pam she imagined it.

For an entire season, she’s treated like she’s losing her mind. And the show never cuts away to Bobby. Nothing. Silence.

Until later.

Pam starts noticing she’s being watched. Then she’s abducted and taken to a remote cabin.

The man removes his disguise.

It’s Bobby.

Alive.
Pam is stunned, but not really surprised. With a smirk, Bobby says, "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
And here’s the truth that makes it all work:
Bobby didn’t fake his death for money or power. He did it to stop something worse.

The “accident” wasn’t random. It was a warning tied to a dirty Ewing Oil deal, NOT JR, Bobby refused to approve—something criminal that would’ve endangered lives. While in the hospital, Bobby overhears that if he survives, the problem doesn’t go away. If he’s dead, it does.

So he stays dead.

Not for the company.
Not for J.R.
But to protect Pam, Miss Ellie, and Christopher.

Pam wasn’t told because she would’ve fought it. And Bobby knew she’d rather hate him than bury him twice.

The elevator moment wasn’t planned. The drugs wore off. Life kicked in. Pam saw the truth—and paid the price for it.

When Bobby finally returns, J.R. didn’t know. He welcomes him home. Miss Ellie holds her son. Pam is vindicated. And Jock—already gone by then—hangs over it all like a ghost Bobby wishes he could’ve faced.

No shower.
No reset button.
No insult.

Just consequences, sacrifice, and a resurrection that actually means something.

That’s the Bobby Ewing return we should’ve gotten.
 
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