Why not Lucas?

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

Cidre was the one who was despicable!!

She took a well loved hit series & ruined it!

Daffy also has another piece of good advice for Cidre:

 

[tommie]

I think they should've had Lucas come to the ranch, only it turns out he's a serial killer as a homage to one of the most beloved plots on Original Dallas, plus I think such a storyline would've really appealed to the TNT audience. He could kill off boring characters such as Valene, Gary, Lucy, Cally, Mandy, Ray, Michelle, James, dig up Valene's corpse and murder her again, Jenna, Afton and summon Valene's spirit via an ouija board only to damn her to eternal suffering in hell.

The final scene could be him in Lady Jessica drag pissing on Miss Ellie's grave.

 

[Werewillie Oleson]

She took a well loved hit series & ruined it!

Good Lord those writers of TNT Dallas were brainless idiots. Clearly this lack of detail proves no one watched the original in its entirety. Shame on them all.

Maybe they didn't like the last seasons? There's not exactly much praise for it on these forums.
Therefore I find it kind of funny that they "should have mentioned Cally's child" in the sequel series. To be honest I had not expected to see Cally on TNT Dallas and I thought it was a lovely little scene, a nice detail.
If she hadn't showed up, no-one would have said "where was Cally?"

 

[Piggyrella Sanderson]

Well, if they didn´t like the latter seasons, it didn´t seem so. They brought back the McKays and NuTracey was going to have a bigger storyline. They also seemed to know the runaway mummy storyline and Pam´s last appearance in the show, as well as the existence of "wife nº 2" and what happened to Ewing Oil at the end...but what about the first 5 classic seasons, the relationship between Ray & Donna or Katherine´s fate? Lame lame lame.

...including the TNT Dallas girls!​

 

[Werewillie Oleson]

but what about the first 5 classic seasons, the relationship between Ray & Donna or Katherine´s fate?

It's 13 (14?) seasons. By the time they were watching the last seasons they probably had forgotten all the details from 600 episodes ago.
Of course they could have re-watched the first 5 seasons, but then they'd forget what happened in the last seasons.
They would have to watch DALLAS on a loop, there would be no time to write NuDallas.

 

[Piggyrella Sanderson]

but what about the first 5 classic seasons, the relationship between Ray & Donna or Katherine´s fate?

It's 13 (14?) seasons. By the time they were watching the last seasons they probably had forgotten all the details from 600 episodes ago.
Of course they could have re-watched the first 5 seasons, but then they'd forget what happened in the last seasons.
They would have to watch DALLAS on a loop, there would be no time to write NuDallas.

Yes but what happened in those 5 last years "of shame" is as forgettable and expendable as the whole Dream Season, IMHO.

Now that you mention it, if CC didn´t really write it (save exceptions), nor was the only executive producer, nor was the "memory bank" of all things "Dallas" ( :laugh1: ), why was she there?

Why wasn´t she penning the second season of "Cane", for instance, and not punishing all the viewers with "Dallas does Mexico" or "The Coke-aine Lords (or Ladies...)" or "The Mambo Kings II"?

 

[Karin]

but what about the first 5 classic seasons, the relationship between Ray & Donna or Katherine´s fate?

It's 13 (14?) seasons. By the time they were watching the last seasons they probably had forgotten all the details from 600 episodes ago.
Of course they could have re-watched the first 5 seasons, but then they'd forget what happened in the last seasons.
They would have to watch DALLAS on a loop, there would be no time to write NuDallas.

Well that's just the thing. CC did not even watch all of Dallas. She watched less than 1/3 of the episodes. So that's why she and her team couldn't keep the details from the original 357 episodes straight. Because they had never even bothered to watch all of them.

 

[Presea]

Weren't Lucas (and Jenna?) supposed to appear in season 4?
I don't remember exactly, because all content of the old forum is lost, but i'm quite sure i've read something like that at the time before it got cancelled. That there were plans for them to return.

I read in an interview with Cidre that she said she planned to bring back an old fan favorite character in the new season. She said that she wouldn't tell who it was, but that, "it is a she". When I first read that, I assumed she was planning to make up for her fatal error with Katherine and bring her to the show. I should've known that it was something like this, although it would have been an opportunity to bring Lucas in.

 

[Rove]

I read in an interview with Cidre that she said she planned to bring back an old fan favorite character in the new season. She said that she wouldn't tell who it was, but that, "it is a she".

I had my fingers crossed it would have been Katherine but there was the small matter of reversing CC's decision to have Bobby kill off Katherine mid-sentence. The other female characters I would have liked to see would have been Sly (at JR's Memorial), Marilee Stone or surprise, surprise Donna.

 

[pete lashmar]

Cally's kid.

Was this resolved in the absolute? It's been such a long time since viewing anything post "Swan Song" that I'm beginning to forget the finer details. I do recall JR - from afar - watching Cally and the child and then just driving off. Was this ever touched on again in the Dallas Reunion Movies. I don't believe it was. Did we ever learn that James WAS the daddy?

But I thought the funniest moment was Cally showing up at JR's Memorial and neither Sue Ellen, Mandy or Cally herself had anything to say about the child. Good Lord those writers of TNT Dallas were brainless idiots. Clearly this lack of detail proves no one watched the original in its entirety. Shame on them all.

James never slept with Cally, she told J.R that just ti p*ss him off - it was J.R's for definite.

He found her running a cafe art gallery and then left without speaking to her and it's never been mentioned since - she was last seen at his funeral where everyone acted like they liked each other and no one mentioned the child.

 

[tommie]

He found her running a cafe art gallery and then left without speaking to her and it's never been mentioned since - she was last seen at his funeral where everyone acted like they liked each other and no one mentioned the child.

To be fair, most people tend to be on their best behavior at funerals and people's memories often become much nicer when someone dies. It's the same thing that happened to Jock, but it's also very true to life. A lot of crap people pulled when they were alive tend to be forgotten when they die.

Also, working in a line about having JRs child for what was a brief cameo is ultimately not what I would've wanted. They could've introduced Cally's child with JR eventually, sure but doing it randomly at the funeral and then doing nothing with it would be pointless. The same thing with Lucas.

 

[Rove]

They could've introduced Cally's child with JR eventually, sure but doing it randomly at the funeral and then doing nothing with it would be pointless. The same thing with Lucas.

That was the failure from those involved with TNT Dallas. They hadn't done their homework. If they had focused their attention on the Ewing family from the outset rather than the Ramos, Ryland and Mexican Drug Cartels we would instead be talking about Cally's child, Lucas and even Margaret. There were stories to be told regarding those other offspring. And what better opportunity to create drama if someone like Lucas just turned up at Uncle JR's Memorial. The issue was "Cancellation" was already hovering over TNT Dallas.

It's why I will never purchase TNT Dallas because at times when I watched episodes I could feel my anger rising at how ridiculous it had become. I don't wish to inflict that kind of pain on myself again.

 

[Luke_Krebbs_Ewing]

I think they should've had Lucas come to the ranch, only it turns out he's a serial killer as a homage to one of the most beloved plots on Original Dallas, plus I think such a storyline would've really appealed to the TNT audience. He could kill off boring characters such as Valene, Gary, Lucy, Cally, Mandy, Ray, Michelle, James, dig up Valene's corpse and murder her again, Jenna, Afton and summon Valene's spirit via an ouija board only to damn her to eternal suffering in hell.

The final scene could be him in Lady Jessica drag pissing on Miss Ellie's grave.

All of that could be spookily true! I am a bit unhinged & psychotic, but I control it with medication usually Bacardi or Whiskey!
Well except for the fact it would be one of Pam's bikini's I would probably be wearing when I piddle on Cynthia Cidre's grave, not Miss Ellie's!!

 

[Justine]

Who would you cast as Lucas? I wrote a fan-fiction ages ago with Taylor Lautner as Lucas but I don't think I'd pick him - I'm not sure who I'd choose, looks-wise.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

Yes, Christopher vs Lucas was the great missed opportunity.

Yes it was. Lucas should have been there from the first season onwards.

I read in an interview with Cidre that she said she planned to bring back an old fan favorite character in the new season. She said that she wouldn't tell who it was, but that, "it is a she". When I first read that, I assumed she was planning to make up for her fatal error with Katherine and bring her to the show.

I wouldn't consider Katherine a "fan favorite." She tried to murder Bobby twice.

James never slept with Cally, she told J.R that just ti p*ss him off - it was J.R's for definite.

That's right.

 

[Piggyrella Sanderson]

I wouldn't consider Katherine a "fan favorite." She tried to murder Bobby twice.

:fp:

 

[Steven Wayne]

I wouldn't consider Katherine a "fan favorite." She tried to murder Bobby twice.

I admit that as a person in real life Katherine Wentworth wouldn’t have a lot of fans... As a character in DALLAS she certainly did (and does). She is also helped by the fact that many fans would consider her years on the show among the best all over.

 

[Kenny Coyote]

I admit that as a person in real life Katherine Wentworth wouldn’t have a lot of fans... As a character in DALLAS she certainly did (and does). She is also helped by the fact that many fans would consider her years on the show among the best all over.

I think you're a fan of the actress who played Katherine. You recognize she put on good performances and she did. She really came across as evil and delusional. But strictly speaking of the character, were you rooting for her, hoping she was successful in murdering Bobby or did you, more likely, hate her for trying to kill Bobby?

In that kind of situation, the actress is trying to make Katherine hated. If you hated Katherine that's a compliment to the actress!

BTW, what was her cause of death according to TNT Dallas? I saw it but can't remember now.

You wrote: She is also helped by the fact that many fans would consider her years on the show among the best all over.

They were great years. You could tell they were getting sloppy later on because Cliff sold his shares of Tool and Die to her but then a season or two later, Cliff still owned those shares. he had them and used them as collateral for a loan from Wendell. Pam need up having to pay a lot of money to get them back because Cliff defaulted on the load, as usual. That was a huge mistake! I don't know how nobody noticed it and pointed it out to the director when they were filming.

 

[Piggyrella Sanderson]

I think you're a fan of the actress who played Katherine.

Moi and la Pig are not fans of Morgan, we are besties and follow each other on Twitter...My Gawd, Katherine´s following me...with a blond wig??? :eck:

 

[Steven Wayne]

I think you're a fan of the actress who played Katherine. You recognize she put on good performances and she did. She really came across as evil and delusional. But strictly speaking of the character, were you rooting for her, hoping she was successful in murdering Bobby or did you, more likely, hate her for trying to kill Bobby?

I certainly admired the work that Morgan Brittany did on DALLAS, but I was also a fan of the drama that her character brought to the show. I absolutely LOVED it when she had those evil confrontations with Cliff and how she managed to get Pam‘ signature under THE LETTER! Katherine‘s actions made DALLAS way more exciting than it would have been without her. I would have had no interest in watching a series where Bobby and Pam lived happily ever after...