Trump Bans Transgender People From The Military

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Inside Trump’s snap decision to ban transgender troops
A congressional fight over sex reassignment surgery threatened funding for his border wall.

After a week sparring with his attorney general and steaming over the Russia investigation consuming his agenda, President Donald Trump was closing in on an important win.

House Republicans were planning to pass a spending bill stacked with his campaign promises, including money to build his border wall with Mexico.

But an internal House Republican fight over transgender troops was threatening to blow up the bill. And House GOP insiders feared they might not have the votes to pass the legislation because defense hawks wanted a ban on Pentagon-funded sex reassignment operations — something GOP leaders wouldn’t give them.

They turned to Trump, who didn’t hesitate. In the flash of a tweet, he announced that transgender troops would be banned altogether.

Trump’s sudden decision was, in part, a last-ditch attempt to save a House proposal full of his campaign promises that was on the verge of defeat, numerous congressional and White House sources said.

The president had always planned to scale back policies put in place during the administration of President Barack Obama welcoming such individuals in combat and greenlighting the military to pay for their medical treatment plans. But a behind-the-scenes GOP brawl threatening to tank a Pentagon funding increase and wall construction hastened Trump’s decision.

Numerous House conservatives and defense hawks this week had threatened to derail their own legislation if it did not include a prohibition on Pentagon funding for gender reassignment surgeries, which they deem a waste of taxpayer money. But GOP leaders were caught in a pinch between those demands and those of moderate Republicans who considered the proposal blatantly discriminatory.

“There are several members of the conference who feel this really needs to be addressed,” senior House Appropriations Committee member Robert Aderholt (R-Ala.) said Tuesday. “This isn’t about the transgender issue; it’s about the taxpayer dollars going to pay for the surgery out of the defense budget.”

That’s why House lawmakers took the matter to the Trump administration. And when Defense Secretary James Mattis refused to immediately upend the policy, they went straight to the White House. Trump — never one for political correctness — was all too happy to oblige.

“[P]lease be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military,” Trump tweeted Wednesday morning. “Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.”

The president’s directive, of course, took the House issue a step beyond paying for gender reassignment surgery and other medical treatment. House Republicans were never debating expelling all transgender troops from the military.

“This is like someone told the White House to light a candle on the table and the WH set the whole table on fire,” a senior House Republican aide said in an email. The source said that although GOP leaders asked the White House for help on the taxpayer matter specifically, they weren’t expecting — and got no heads up on — Trump’s far-reaching directive.

While Democrats and centrist Republicans are already blasting the move, one White House official said the decision would be “seen as common-sense” by millions — though likely vociferously protested by others. White House officials also noted that conservatives had pushed for the ban, including in a May letter that was signed by dozens of right-leaning groups.

“It’s not the worst thing in the world to have this fight,” the administration official said.

The announcement, multiple sources said, did not sit well with Mattis, who appeared to be trying to avoid the matter in recent weeks. An extensive Defense Department review of the policy was already underway, but a decision wasn’t expected for months.

Insiders said Mattis felt there was no need to rush upending the policy, arguing the Pentagon needed time to study the issue. Its decision would affect at least 2,450 transgender active-military personnel, according to a Rand report — though military LGBT activist groups say as many as 15,000 soldiers fall into that category.

That timeline, however, wasn’t good enough for House Republicans. Rep. Vicky Hartzler (R-Mo.), the original author of the House’s transgender proposal, attempted to reach Mattis by phone numerous times in recent weeks to discuss the transgender issue.

Mattis only got back to her the day she forced the matter on the House floor in mid-July. And, according to Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-N.J.), who opposed the Hartzler proposal, Mattis asked Hartzler to withdraw her amendment and give him space to maneuver.

Lawmakers went around Mattis to engage the White House, and Mattis knew the ban was being considered and was consulted before the announcement, according to several White House officials. But the decision ultimately came down from Trump and was “White House-driven,” Trump aides said.

The president was also annoyed by the Pentagon delay, one person said. A different official said the White House had gotten positive reaction from conservatives, an important factor amid their displeasure with Trump’s recent bashing of Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

The transgender fight first surfaced in the House a few weeks ago. With the backing of almost the entire GOP Conference, Hartzler offered an amendment to a defense authorization bill that would ban funding for gender reassignment surgeries and treatments for transgender active-duty personnel.

Republican supporters were shocked when a group of 24 mostly moderate Republicans teamed up with 190 Democrats to kill the effort in a 209-214 vote.

Republicans spent much of a closed-door GOP Conference meeting the next morning steaming about what happened.

“It’s not so much the transgender surgery issue as much as we continue to let the defense bill be the mule for all of these social experiments that the left wants to try to [foist] on government,” Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.), a conservative supporter of the Hartzler proposal, said last week.

He added: “It seems to me, and all due respect to everyone, that if someone wants to come to the military, potentially risk their life to save the country, that they should probably decide whether they’re a man or woman before they do that.”

Supporters of Hartzler’s proposal were determined to try again. Last week, they began pushing GOP leadership to use a procedural trick to automatically include the controversial proposal in a Pentagon spending package set for a floor vote this week. The idea was to tuck the provision into a rules package governing the legislation, sidestepping a second potentially unsuccessful amendment vote and adding it to the bill without a floor fight.

Under intense pressure from moderates in the Tuesday Group to reject the idea, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and his team shied away from the strategy, worried that it would make them look hypocritical for circumventing regular order.

“Leadership should respect the will of the House — and that’s already been expressed,” said Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.), a centrist who opposed the amendment. “These transgender service-people are serving our country and have signed up and agreed to risk their lives for this country, so we want to honor that commitment as well.”

That’s when lawmakers turned to the White House for help. They figured the administration could speed up a decision and settle the dispute once and for all.

“Conservatives were telling [the] White House they didn’t want money in a spending bill to go to transgender health services,” said one senior administration official, noting that it accelerated Trump’s decision.

Their argument fell on sympathetic ears, White House sources said. Chief strategist Steve Bannon encouraged Trump to deal with the matter now.

Hartzler and her supporters were elated.

“I’m glad the president will be changing this costly and damaging policy,” Hartzler said after Trump’s announcement. “Military service is a privilege, not a right. We must ensure all our precious defense dollars are used to strengthen our national defense.”

Source: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/trump-transgender-military-ban-behind-the-scenes-240990
 
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Our government has continuously sent people to die in the endless "war on terror" for fifteen years, and they have the gall to disrespect transgender troops? It's the government that's disgraceful, not the people who serve.

I'm glad to see there are some sensible Republicans on this issue, but the ones who demanded this provision in order to fund Trump's already draconian agenda are sick. A draft dodger like Trump is not fit to tell anybody they don't deserve to be in the military. A Trump tweet from June 2016 says he will fight for the LGBT community. Turns out he meant fight against them.

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Caitlyn Janner says she's "shocked." Morons like her or that Milo (though very different) get a platform in TV's pursuit of ratings and profits and then you get a dumbed down divided nation that elects reality hosts.

It is astounding what seemingly irreparable damage 20 years of toxic FOX News and stupefying reality shows can cause. How can anybody be surprised or shocked by this obvious conman, so obvious it punches you right in the face? You have to be hopelessly dumb or blind or desperate.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/we-...r-for-being-shocked-by-trumps-trans-betrayal/

Meanwhile, transgender former Navy SEAL who helped take down Bin Laden says: "Tell me I'm not worthy to my face". And there are countless transgender people like her.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/tra...n-bin-laden-tell-me-im-not-worthy-to-my-face/

Trump is of course not necessarily anti-LGBT. In fact he's not anti or pro anything. All he cares about is if something is pro or anti Trump. And the only country he pledges his allegiance to is The United States of Donald J. Trump. That's why he'll never hesitate to stab Jenner, Sessions, any member of his own cabinet or the GOP, or any one of the poor pathetic 63 million nitwits who voted for him right in the back.


Chalk this one up to yet another one of those "tweets that didn't age well" in the infinite Trump, Conway, Sanders, etc. collection. Note - when it comes to that "transparent" Scaramucci hack, we call them the "tweets he forgot to delete."
 

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Surely this guy has to go now? This is just disgraceful. How can anyone have voted for him????
 

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Not surprised. I bet his only rational thinking is done playing golf these days.
Everything about him is a disgrace.
No one should be banned from wanting to serve his or her country, except for children.
 

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Look at that arrogant POS. Look at his bloated KFC face. LOL, what is that expression? Does he think he's the King of America or something?

He calls the reporter "very rude" because she asked him a question, which happens to be a pressing current matter, as he had announced it via Twitter just hours before, even taking Pentagon at a surprise, breaking his fake campaign pledge to protect LGBT rights.

No accountability. The filthy turd thinks he can run the country like his criminal money laundering / human trafficking Trump Org.

 
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I'm finding it increasing difficult to talk about Trump without using for letter words. Every day brings another announcement from him that appals me.

Why aren't Americans more angry about this attack on trans rights? Where are the protests? Where are the marches? Although Trump is disgusting, the apparent apathy of Americans is what enables him to get away with policies such as this.
 
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I'm finding it increasing difficult to talk about Trump without using for letter words. Every day brings another announcement from him that appals me.

Why aren't Americans more angry about this attack on trans rights? Where are the protests? Where are the marches? Although Trump is disgusting, the apparent apathy of Americans is what enables him to get away with policies such as this.

I would HOPE it's because those who voted for him, are now hanging their heads in shame!
 

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Trump spoke with 'his generals' about this change in policy but the Pentagon didn't know about this until he tweeted it. You know, because his generals are in the Kremlin.


Angela Channing said:
Why aren't Americans more angry about this attack on trans rights? Where are the protests? Where are the marches? Although Trump is disgusting, the apparent apathy of Americans is what enables him to get away with policies such as this.
Well, only the rednecks, politically naive, and some of the rich folks, like Trump. Otherwise, he has a 35% approval rating -- the lowest by far for a president so new.

Amazingly, he's actually turned out to be even worse than we even thought he'd be.
 

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Total annual healthcare costs of the Department of Defense? $49 billion. That's billion with a B. Total annual transgender-related medical costs? Between $2.4 - 8.4 million. That's million with an M.

In other words, it's 0.017-0.4%. When this draft dodger talks about "tremendous medical costs and disruption" he's clearly lying.

And when he says "my generals and military experts" told him to do so, he's also lying. The Pentagon didn't even know. He's a disgusting liar with no morals whatsoever.

I would HOPE it's because those who voted for him, are now hanging their heads in shame!

Oh, they have no shame. Not until he hits them on their own pocket or affects their health. And the most repugnant among them won't do so even then. Because he's their guy. They'll just find a way to blame Obama. It's ideological blindness. Just look at the latest CBS News report, they actually think he's getting things done:

 

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Why aren't Americans more angry about this attack on trans rights? Where are the protests? Where are the marches? Although Trump is disgusting, the apparent apathy of Americans is what enables him to get away with policies such as this.
The news just broke yesterday, and people have started to push back (including some transgender service people). Resistance to this discrimination will likely increase with time.

The good news is that there are many grassroots activists out there who aren't apathetic, and are actively working to dispose of this sick Congress and President.

Caitlyn Janner says she's "shocked." Morons like her or that Milo (though very different) get a platform in TV's pursuit of ratings and profits and then you get a dumbed down divided nation that elects reality hosts.
I'll never forget Caitlyn Jenner referring to herself as a "traditionalist" who didn't believe in same sex marriage. I found that odd since most traditionalists don't believe in gender reassignment either.

But it does prove that people who face discrimination can be just as discriminatory themselves. Milo's a prime example of that as well.

Trump is of course not necessarily anti-LGBT. In fact he's not anti or pro anything. All he cares about is if something is pro or anti Trump. And the only country he pledges his allegiance to is The United States of Donald J. Trump. That's why he'll never hesitate to stab Jenner, Sessions, any member of his own cabinet or the GOP, or any one of the poor pathetic 63 million nitwits who voted for him right in the back.
Absolutely true. For someone who's never held public office before, he's certainly mastered the art of bullshitting people while trying to push through one of the most despised agendas of all time.

Anybody that still thinks he's an anti-establishment populist needs to have their head examined.

Chalk this one up to yet another one of those "tweets that didn't age well" in the infinite Trump, Conway, Sanders, etc. collection. Note - when it comes to that "transparent" Scaramucci hack, we call them the "tweets he forgot to delete."
Yes, just like his 2012 tweets regarding the electoral college. Poor Donny tiny hands just can't help being a liar and hypocrite.

Total annual healthcare costs of the Department of Defense? $49 billion. That's billion with a B. Total annual transgender-related medical costs? Between $2.4 - 8.4 million. That's million with an M.

In other words, it's 0.017-0.4%. When this draft dodger talks about "tremendous medical costs and disruption" he's clearly lying.
Thanks for posting the numbers. I hadn't seen them yet, but I figured they would only make up a small percentage of the budget. Transgenders hardly seem like a group that would be a financial burden on the military.

And when he says "my generals and military experts" told him to do so, he's also lying. The Pentagon didn't even know. He's a disgusting liar with no morals whatsoever.
In a nutshell.
 
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Why aren't Americans more angry about this attack on trans rights? Where are the protests?
Looks like protests have begun after all:

Protesters speak out against Trump’s transgender military ban in front of the White House

Dozens of people gathered in front of the White House Wednesday night as part of a last-minute protest to decry President Trump’s announcement earlier in the day that he would ban transgender people from serving in the military.

They carried anti-Trump signs and faced the White House as they chanted “Trans rights are human rights.”

“As a military spouse, I urge our leaders to protect trans troops,” one sign read.

Chelsy Albertson, 31, was visiting the nation’s capital from Indianapolis when she read Trump’s tweets this morning announcing the military ban. She searched for a protest to join and, when she couldn’t find one, created a Facebook group and started one of her own in front of the White House.

By 7 p.m., dozens of people were there and included tourists, office employees who worked nearby and transgender veterans.

Many of the protesters delivered emotional speeches explaining how the ban would impact them. Major Kimberly Moore, a transgender woman who served in the army for 20 years, said she fought to secure Americans’ freedom and think it’s “disgusting” that the country isn’t protecting the rights of its transgender citizens.

“I feel that we are disenfranchised and marginalized,” she said. “Ironically, that’s why we originally went to war with England, because they treated us like less than full citizens.”

Kara Zajac, a transgender woman who served in the Navy between 2010 and 2016, said she wanted to protest Wednesday because she has transgender friends still enlisted in the military who cannot protest.

“They fight for us, and we’ll fight for them,” she said.

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Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...der-military-ban-in-front-of-the-white-house/
 

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Trump is just interested in having a "win".

And he's more interested in the spirit of the "win" than the substance of the "win". And he's quite happy, as we know, to bully the vulnerable (i.g., minorities) to show he's Boss.

We know Trump has no particular concern about Mexicans, LGBTers, or even Muslims. He just wants to beat up on them to impress and distract his drooling redneck base who are too foolish to not realize they're next.

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Pentagon will NOT be taking any steps to enforce Trump's out-of-the-blue transgender ban, until an official word from the White House comes in, which they still say the intend to do. Go figure. You actually can't rule the country via Twitter, you have to do it the old-fashioned way. Turns out, the big question now is if the troops will get honorable or dishonorable discharge, each carrying messy consequences:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/trump-transgender-military-ban-no-modification-241029

Meanwhile, US Joint Chiefs of Staff say they were completely blindsided by Trump's ban. Further proof he just pulled it out his disgustingly obese ass:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/27/politics/trump-military-transgender-ban-joint-chiefs/index.html

One final note, POLITICO said yesterday Trump did it to save his precious wall, so he can have a bone to toss to his base. Others speculate he loves to undo all Obama's accomplishments. I think it is most likely, it was yet another desperate deflection from GOP's legislative failures and the accelerating investigation into Russia and his company's / family's criminal activities.
 

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One final note, POLITICO said yesterday Trump did it to save his precious wall, so he can have a bone to toss to his base. Others speculate he loves to undo all Obama's accomplishments. I think it is most likely, it was yet another desperate deflection from GOP's legislative failures and the accelerating investigation into Russia and his company's / family's criminal activities.
As Joy Behar said on The View yesterday, keep your eye on the ball and follow the money: All roads lead to Russia.
 
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It's official:

President Trump signs directive banning transgender people from military

President Donald Trump on Friday signed a memorandum directing the military not to move forward with a plan to allow transgender individuals to join, a senior White House official said.

The presidential memorandum also banned the Department of Defense from using its resources to provide medical treatment regimens for transgender individuals currently serving in the military, offering an uncertain future for transgender service members currently serving.

Trump also directed the departments of Defense and Homeland Security "to determine how to address transgender individuals currently serving based on military effectiveness and lethality, unitary cohesion, budgetary constraints, applicable law, and all factors that may be relevant," the White House official said.

The White House official who briefed reporters on the memo on Friday evening declined to say whether transgender troops would be allowed to remain in the military under those policy guidelines.

But the official signaled that the administration was returning to the military's pre-2016 policy under which no transgender individuals were allowed to serve openly in the armed forces.

The guidance comes a month after Trump said on Twitter that he would reinstate a ban on transgender troops, an announcement that took many in the military's leadership -- including the joint chiefs of staff -- by surprise.

"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military," Trump said in a series of tweets. "Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."

"Thank you," he added.

The White House offered no guidance at the time as to how the ban would be implemented, leaving transgender servicemembers wondering about their future in the military.

Trump's decision reversed a policy initially approved by the Defense Department under President Barack Obama, which was still under final review, that would allow transgender individuals to openly serve in the military. Defense Secretary James Mattis announced in June that he was delaying enactment of the plan to begin allowing transgender individuals to join the US military.

Trump's decision was met with widespread rebuke by members of both parties and civil rights advocates, who argued that Trump's decision reversed years of progress for LGBT rights and flew in the face of studies showing minimal impacts on the military.

A 2016 Rand Corp. study commissioned by the Defense Department concluded that letting transgender people serve openly would have a "minimal impact" on readiness and health care costs, largely because there are so few in the military's 1.3 million-member force.

The study put the number of transgender people in the military at between 1,320 and 6,630. Gender-change surgery is rare in the general population, and the Rand study estimated the possibility of 30 to 140 new hormone treatments a year in the military, with 25 to 130 gender transition-related surgeries among active service members annually. The cost could range from $2.4 million and $8.4 million a year, an amount that would represent an "exceedingly small proportion" of total health care expenditures, the study found.

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Isn't it illegal to do something like this!? I don't know who Trump thought he was fooling when he said that he was doing it because of the costs for operations. If that was really the case, then he could have just said that the government won't pay for the operations, not create a ban. This is discrimination, and unfortunately, it will continue. Once Congress comes back from recess, most of them will aid Trump in doing everything they can to kill disabled Americans. And I highly doubt that anyone (even the courts) will do much to fight for them. Because both parties have never given a s*** about people with disabilities.
 
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