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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 81823" data-attributes="member: 35">I guess that means you missed the posts where Snarky and I gave her credit for what she said about Russia, her deplorables comment, and how she has been the target of ludicrous accusations.The problem is that every point she tries to make is valid to you.Hillary&#039;s book is up there with Trump&#039;s &quot;alternative facts.&quot;&nbsp; If she&#039;s to be believed, criticisms over policy and Wall Street ties equates to personal attacks.&nbsp; We&#039;re also supposed to believe that Bernie stole her ideas and was so far left that he &quot;promised everyone a pony.&quot;&nbsp; We&#039;re supposed to believe that every Bernie supporter is a sexist &quot;bro,&quot; and that female Bernie supporters were pressured into supporting him by the sexist men in their lives.Coming from &quot;my point of view,&quot; that&#039;s quite a heap of bullshit.&nbsp; Being a woman is now used as a defense against all forms of criticism, regardless of the validity of it.Yeah, like the people who can recognize contradictions and lies.The only thing that&#039;s not clear cut is Hillary&#039;s ground strategy in the swing states.&nbsp; Not that I doubt warnings from people on the ground in those states went unanswered, but it&#039;s possible that campaigning there wouldn&#039;t have made a difference.&nbsp; Still, the fact that she didn&#039;t try, along with the fact that they were talking about picking up two Republicans for every blue collar Democrat they lost suggests Dems did indeed write them off.She&#039;s been given credit for her previous support of bankruptcy protection for low income people, as well as healthcare reform (which she worked on with Bernie Sanders in 1993).&nbsp; Snarky even said he&#039;d vote for her again.But you can clearly see the difference between people who voted for Hillary for pragmatic reasons, and those who support everything she says and does.&nbsp; The latter group supports white washing her history.&nbsp; So naturally, the enemy is anybody who brings it up.&nbsp; How dare you criticize her for once being against gay marriage, supporting wars in Iraq, Libya, and Syria, giving paid speeches to Wall Street and subsequently reversing her position on bankruptcy law, etc.&nbsp; Everybody&#039;s upset over Trump&#039;s DACA decision and the breaking up of families, but how soon we forget that Hillary said illegal immigrant children would be &quot;sent back&quot; just three years ago.But poor Hillary.&nbsp; Nobody wants to give her credit for her &quot;accomplishments.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 81823, member: 35"] I guess that means you missed the posts where Snarky and I gave her credit for what she said about Russia, her deplorables comment, and how she has been the target of ludicrous accusations. The problem is that [I]every[/I] point she tries to make is valid to you. Hillary's book is up there with Trump's "alternative facts." If she's to be believed, criticisms over policy and Wall Street ties equates to personal attacks. We're also supposed to believe that Bernie stole her ideas [I][B]and [/B][/I]was so far left that he "promised everyone a pony." We're supposed to believe that every Bernie supporter is a sexist "bro," and that female Bernie supporters were pressured into supporting him by the sexist men in their lives. Coming from "my point of view," that's quite a heap of bullshit. Being a woman is now used as a defense against all forms of criticism, regardless of the validity of it. Yeah, like the people who can recognize contradictions and lies. The only thing that's not clear cut is Hillary's ground strategy in the swing states. Not that I doubt warnings from people on the ground in those states went unanswered, but it's possible that campaigning there wouldn't have made a difference. Still, the fact that she didn't try, along with the fact that they were talking about picking up two Republicans for every blue collar Democrat they lost suggests Dems did indeed write them off. She's been given credit for her previous support of bankruptcy protection for low income people, as well as healthcare reform (which she worked on with Bernie Sanders in 1993). Snarky even said he'd vote for her again. But you can clearly see the difference between people who voted for Hillary for pragmatic reasons, and those who support everything she says and does. The latter group supports white washing her history. So naturally, the enemy is anybody who brings it up. How dare you criticize her for once being against gay marriage, supporting wars in Iraq, Libya, and Syria, giving paid speeches to Wall Street and subsequently reversing her position on bankruptcy law, etc. Everybody's upset over Trump's DACA decision and the breaking up of families, but how soon we forget that Hillary said illegal immigrant children would be "sent back" just three years ago. But poor Hillary. Nobody wants to give her credit for her "accomplishments." [/QUOTE]

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