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<blockquote data-quote="Willie Oleson" data-source="post: 246523" data-attributes="member: 8">The freewheeling/anarchic dialogue in the new soaps (especially Empire and Dynasty) may seem delightfully progressive, but it leaves little room for shock value when it&#039;s supposed to matter.Mama like!/Bobby&#039;s &quot;bitch-wife!&quot;/Elena the &quot;thieving whore&quot; still have that &quot;oh my!&quot; effect. I think Empire would struggle to make it sounds equally effective.Dynasty sure loves to Russian doll the fakery, maybe it&#039;s a modern thing that literally everything has to be twisty, but it usually doesn&#039;t pay off in a way a soap like Knots Landing would have handled it.Give Abby Ewing a fake Rembrandt and the whole season spirals out of control.Too bad they didn&#039;t think of Harper GLASS before Another Life did it. Still, a very soapy name, in the tradition of the Channing Carters.I LOVE the scheming couples. Lance &amp; Melissa did it sometimes, and GREENLEAF had them too (unfortunately, none of their characters are allowed to become truly wicked). Sneaky bedroom conversations and all that stuff, I love it. Vicky &amp; Eric Stavros, the Hogans - it could have been a Soap Battle!I&#039;m trying to think of record company that had this kind of Big Impact On Everything. It&#039;s all very believable within that particular circuit, but I feel they want to make it bigger than it really is, like Falcon Crest did with its wine. Falcon Crest only felt genuinely big as the dominator of the Tuscany Valley.A little off-topic, but back in the 90s there was this &quot;rivalry&quot; between Almighty Records and Klone Records, although it was mostly invented by the fans of these record labels.Since I liked both I could play the devious double-crosser.LOLTo be fair, it&#039;s the same kick-in-an-open-door-comment that original Krystle would have given to a brooding Steven/Kirby/Dominique in Dynasty circa season 4 and onwards.And that&#039;s exactly what original Fallon did in Dynasty&#039;s first seasons, and yet it looks so different. Probably because new Fallon plays it to the hilt, which takes the real blaséness out of it.That, I liked.I really should scroll more carefully.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie Oleson, post: 246523, member: 8"] The freewheeling/anarchic dialogue in the new soaps (especially Empire and Dynasty) may seem delightfully progressive, but it leaves little room for shock value when it's supposed to matter. Mama like!/Bobby's "bitch-wife!"/Elena the "thieving whore" still have that [I]"oh my!"[/I] effect. I think Empire would struggle to make it sounds equally effective. Dynasty sure loves to Russian doll the fakery, maybe it's a modern thing that literally [I]everything [/I]has to be twisty, but it usually doesn't pay off in a way a soap like Knots Landing would have handled it. Give Abby Ewing a fake Rembrandt and the whole season spirals out of control. Too bad they didn't think of Harper GLASS before [I]Another Life[/I] did it. Still, a very soapy name, in the tradition of the Channing Carters. I LOVE the scheming couples. Lance & Melissa did it sometimes, and GREENLEAF had them too (unfortunately, none of their characters are allowed to become truly wicked). Sneaky bedroom conversations and all that stuff, I love it. Vicky & Eric Stavros, the Hogans - it could have been a Soap Battle! I'm trying to think of record company that had this kind of Big Impact On Everything. It's all very believable within that particular circuit, but I feel they want to make it bigger than it really is, like Falcon Crest did with its wine. Falcon Crest only felt genuinely big as the dominator of the Tuscany Valley. A little off-topic, but back in the 90s there was this "rivalry" between Almighty Records and Klone Records, although it was mostly invented by the fans of these record labels. Since I liked both I could play the devious double-crosser. LOL To be fair, it's the same kick-in-an-open-door-comment that original Krystle would have given to a brooding Steven/Kirby/Dominique in Dynasty [I]circa[/I] season 4 and onwards. And that's exactly what original Fallon did in Dynasty's first seasons, and yet it looks so different. Probably because new Fallon plays it to the hilt, which takes the real blaséness out of it. That, I liked. I really should scroll more carefully. [/QUOTE]

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