Werewillie Oleson
Telly Talk Schemer
And yet it's called DALLAS, not SOUTHFORK or THE EWINGS.
So this new version felt more Dallas-y.
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So this new version felt more Dallas-y.
Miss Texas 1967
Telly Talk Addict
@Kenny Coyote 'verbalised' my thoughts best. If the show was exactly the same as it is now, scriptwise, it wasn't called Dallas, there was no publicity connecting it to Dallas, the actors weren't returning from an existing original, there was nothing to throw back to something nostalgic, if it was just another show that aired starting June 2012, it wouldn't have reached nearly as many people and my bet is it wouldn't have been as polarising as it is now, nor as semi-successful. There was nothing stopping new people who knew nothing of the original series from watching the show, the viewing numbers weren't great though and considering they were likely made up of a considerable amount of people returning week after week out of loyalty to the original series, the show was being propped up by the popularity of the Dallas franchise. Cut the Dallas (series not city) connection completely and you're left with a show that was fine but nothing special, keep the Dallas connection and you're left with a show that people are still critiquing 6-7 years after it was cancelled, critiquing because they weren't satisfied with how the one chance to get a whole bunch of original cast members back to do a continuation of a beloved series ended up playing out. The show could have been amazing had it been placed in the hands of people who actually cared and knew something about what they were committing to, but it was disappointing because that's not what we got. If the show had not been called or connected to Dallas it would have just been another forgotten drama people might have said they stopped watching because by the third season the focus was on something very different to what was laid out in the first season, with the Dallas connection the disappointment goes deeper.
Werewillie Oleson
Telly Talk Schemer
Falcon Crest had its cartel story in season 3, and it's one of the show's most popular seasons. Lots of crime and action and dastardly stuff.
I find new Dallas' season 3 very "Winds Of Vengeance".
Miss Texas 1967
Telly Talk Addict
Maybe so, but there were ways to do a cartel plot that involved the Ewings more than we actually got. Nobody was watching for scenes where there was little Ewing focus. Even in the original series the strength was in plots that kept us caring about the Ewings, not other characters. Did you really care about David Shulton and Laurel Ellis? Or Jory Taylor and Kit? Most people wanted the scenes to be more about the way the plot affected the Ewings, not the others.
Kenny Coyote
Telly Talk Star
I think of how Dallas fans watched TNT Dallas as comparable to why we kept watching original Dallas in its last few years when it wasn't very good anymore or even bad like the last season. If you or I had only started watching Dallas in the last few years, there's a good chance we would have quit watching after a few episodes. It was knowing how good it had the potential to be, because we'd seen it when it was great, that kept us watching the original to the end.
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
Now I'm questioning my own thoughts. Did I watch Lorimar Dallas until the bitter end out of respect, loyalty...hoping the once dominant Dallas would find its feet?
I suspect all of the above...which sums up my viewing of TNT Dallas, respect, loyalty and hope against hope it would right the wrongs of those last remaining years of Lorimar Dallas.
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
This sums up perfectly what TNT Dallas was....
J. R.'s Piece
Telly Talk Star
IMDb had George Pastell down as being born in 1887, making him appear to be abut eighty when he played Klieg in Doctor Who: Tomb of Cybermen. They later altered George Pastell’s birth date to 1923. But people on forums believed him to be eighty in 1967, as a result of that and complimented him on how youthful he looked for an eighty year old.
Robert Shaw is currently credited as being in ITC’s The Buccaneers episode, The Return of Calico Jack. Although he is the show’s star, he is completely absent from that and not credited on the closing titles. His character is overseas. Patrick Troughton is only credited for eight of his nine roles in The Adventures of Robin Hood. And there are loads of appearances from Frank Maher, Fred Haggerty and Peter Brace in tv shows and movies, that they aren’t credited for on IMDb. I can think of at least forty-eight tv and film appearances that Frsnk Maher isn’t credited for on IMDb. Fred Haggerty is in most of the 27 UK episodes (another 12 were filmed in Hollywood) of ITC’s The Count of Monte Cristo and he doesn’t get a single credit on IMDb for any of them.
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Elizabeth Ewins
Telly Talk Member
Why should I or anybody else wish CC bad luck when she is capable of doing it to herself! We don't need to wish her bad luck!
They messed up nothing. Actually, Cidre's TNT Dallas was a real hommage to OG Dallas. Cidre knew season 9 was the "dream season". So she decided to give us her own spin on that, with 3 "nightmare seasons". Now we all are woke up and can forget the bad dreams...
Herofan
Telly Talk Active Member
I believe I know exactly what you mean. I have thought the same thing about other shows as well. Sometimes reunion show producers feel the concept of the original show and the presence of the familiar characters is enough to carry the show; therefore the plot often suffers. I’ve always felt the new plot should be able to stand on its own. If the concept and plot of the TNT Dallas had just been applied to some new show, it would have probably tanked after a few episodes.
Piggyrella Sanderson
Maximum Member
Ana Alicia´s last credit "Frontera roja" is also fake, she said it in one of her podcasts.