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<blockquote data-quote="Mustard" data-source="post: 148705" data-attributes="member: 46"><p>Yes, he certainly does, as long as they stay away from Dallas <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, Gary's experience with Olivia and Brian helped him in regards to Bobby and Betsy later. The whole Lucy situation left even more scars on Gary in many ways than it did on Val, because Val did everything in her power to get Lucy back when she was a teenager, from snatching Lucy and going on the run and legal action, while Gary had run off some time before that. Gary had different issues with Lucy compared to Val with Lucy. Lucy felt this herself, you could tell. She would sometimes scowl at her dad for not being tougher, or mocking him for not being there for her upbringing when he was trying to lay some ground rules. So yes, Gary needed the experience of bringing up Olivia and Brian for a few years to help him with the whole parenting thing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Gary slept with Judy because Judy looked up to Gary and his strength regarding alcoholism, and Gary felt flattered by that. In his marriage to Val, it was Gary who was looking up to his wife and her strength. Abby knew this too, which is why she also knew it wouldn't work between Gary and Judy. Gary never considered being in a relationship with Judy, unlike what Judy thought when she confronted Val about her affair.</p><p></p><p>So with Gary and Judy, Gary was flattered that a woman was looking up to him and his strength, but it wasn't going to go beyond this. With Gary and Abby, it went a lot deeper. Abby was pushing Gary to get better in business and to handle responsibilities in his life as a whole, challenging him to do something about the insecurities he felt. Abby meant more to Gary than Judy ever did, even though Gary most certainly didn't want to lose Val, who he loved and who gave him the security he needed in life. Abby made it clear that she wasn't like Val, and wasn't into giving Gary security, as she pushed him to get better and sort himself out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What about Cathy with Ben?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The connection that Ted and Joan had was incredible, really.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustard, post: 148705, member: 46"] Yes, he certainly does, as long as they stay away from Dallas ;) Yes, Gary's experience with Olivia and Brian helped him in regards to Bobby and Betsy later. The whole Lucy situation left even more scars on Gary in many ways than it did on Val, because Val did everything in her power to get Lucy back when she was a teenager, from snatching Lucy and going on the run and legal action, while Gary had run off some time before that. Gary had different issues with Lucy compared to Val with Lucy. Lucy felt this herself, you could tell. She would sometimes scowl at her dad for not being tougher, or mocking him for not being there for her upbringing when he was trying to lay some ground rules. So yes, Gary needed the experience of bringing up Olivia and Brian for a few years to help him with the whole parenting thing. Gary slept with Judy because Judy looked up to Gary and his strength regarding alcoholism, and Gary felt flattered by that. In his marriage to Val, it was Gary who was looking up to his wife and her strength. Abby knew this too, which is why she also knew it wouldn't work between Gary and Judy. Gary never considered being in a relationship with Judy, unlike what Judy thought when she confronted Val about her affair. So with Gary and Judy, Gary was flattered that a woman was looking up to him and his strength, but it wasn't going to go beyond this. With Gary and Abby, it went a lot deeper. Abby was pushing Gary to get better in business and to handle responsibilities in his life as a whole, challenging him to do something about the insecurities he felt. Abby meant more to Gary than Judy ever did, even though Gary most certainly didn't want to lose Val, who he loved and who gave him the security he needed in life. Abby made it clear that she wasn't like Val, and wasn't into giving Gary security, as she pushed him to get better and sort himself out. What about Cathy with Ben? The connection that Ted and Joan had was incredible, really. [/QUOTE]
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