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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 81716" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>Of course it's possible. I just personally find what's been said about her swing state strategy to be a more compelling argument.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, Trump lied about coal jobs. And yes, Clinton shouldn't have lied in return to counter him.</p><p></p><p>However, she could have countered with a realistic plan to combat lost jobs, stagnant wages, and she could have completely denounced the TPP.</p><p></p><p>Trump's indeed a shameless liar, but people who are hurting economically can easily fall for it. Bernie Sanders, Michael Moore, and even Hillary have acknowledged the economically disenfranchised being attracted to Trump. Dems are seen as the party that bailed out the very people responsible for the economic crash of 2008 and helped deregulate the banks. Unfortunately, it felt as if little was done to repair that image.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Absolutely Comey should have disclosed both investigations. I'm not disputing that all.</p><p></p><p>How much campaigning would have allevieated the influence of meddling? I don't know. Probably the same amount of campaigning necessary to alleviate the economic concerns of the working class.</p><p></p><p>Of course, I could be wrong. Hillary could have campaigned her ass off in those states and still lost. But if a Wisconsin mayor and Michael Moore are to be believed, those states were largely ignored.</p><p></p><p>The fact that Chuck Schumer was more interested in courting moderate Republicans is rather telling to me. It's almost as if he was anticipating the loss of working class Dems.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Trump's deceit is on another level for sure, but Hillary has chosen to interject herself in the political arena once again. In doing so, she's made a few valid points, but has also revealed some blatant lies.</p><p></p><p>I personally believe her sole interest was in getting people to talk about her again, regardless of the reaction. It's almost like she's considering running again in 2020, even though she claims to be finished with politics.</p><p></p><p>Also, I was aware of fake news stories, the DNC leaks, and the Comey investigation, and none of those were deciding factors in my decision to vote third party.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 81716, member: 35"] Of course it's possible. I just personally find what's been said about her swing state strategy to be a more compelling argument. Yes, Trump lied about coal jobs. And yes, Clinton shouldn't have lied in return to counter him. However, she could have countered with a realistic plan to combat lost jobs, stagnant wages, and she could have completely denounced the TPP. Trump's indeed a shameless liar, but people who are hurting economically can easily fall for it. Bernie Sanders, Michael Moore, and even Hillary have acknowledged the economically disenfranchised being attracted to Trump. Dems are seen as the party that bailed out the very people responsible for the economic crash of 2008 and helped deregulate the banks. Unfortunately, it felt as if little was done to repair that image. Absolutely Comey should have disclosed both investigations. I'm not disputing that all. How much campaigning would have allevieated the influence of meddling? I don't know. Probably the same amount of campaigning necessary to alleviate the economic concerns of the working class. Of course, I could be wrong. Hillary could have campaigned her ass off in those states and still lost. But if a Wisconsin mayor and Michael Moore are to be believed, those states were largely ignored. The fact that Chuck Schumer was more interested in courting moderate Republicans is rather telling to me. It's almost as if he was anticipating the loss of working class Dems. Trump's deceit is on another level for sure, but Hillary has chosen to interject herself in the political arena once again. In doing so, she's made a few valid points, but has also revealed some blatant lies. I personally believe her sole interest was in getting people to talk about her again, regardless of the reaction. It's almost like she's considering running again in 2020, even though she claims to be finished with politics. Also, I was aware of fake news stories, the DNC leaks, and the Comey investigation, and none of those were deciding factors in my decision to vote third party. [/QUOTE]
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