How Democrats Can Capitalize on Trump’s Betrayal of His Base

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President Trump ran as a different kind of Republican, putting together a collection of evangelical Christian, rural and working-class voters who felt betrayed by government. He was the outsider, agitating for an agenda that did not promote corporate profits at the expense of workers and vowing, for example, to leave entitlements alone. His vision was nativist, nationalist, protectionist and paternalistic. Big government for the little guy, in other words.

His two biggest initiatives so far — health-care reform and his budget — tell a vastly different story. This is old-style right-wing politics on steroids. Transfer wealth to the rich via Medicaid cuts for the poor and tax breaks to the rich. Deploy health spending accounts, where 70 percent of money comes from those making more than $100,000.

The budget is even less generous to Trump’s base. The Post noted that the listed of abolished programs included “the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program, which disburses more than $3 billion annually to help heat homes in the winter. It also proposed abolishing the Community Development Block Grant program, which provides roughly $3 billion for targeted projects related to affordable housing, community development and homelessness programs, among other things.”

His rural supporters don’t fare very well:

President Donald Trump has proposed halting funding for rural clean water initiatives and reducing county-level staff, for a 21 percent drop in discretionary spending at the Department of Agriculture (USDA), according to a White House budget document.

The $4.7 billion in cuts would leave USDA with a budget of $17.9 billion after cutting some statistical and rural business services and encouraging private sector conservation planning. Farm groups warned that farmers and rural communities could suffer. The budget proposal would save $498 million by eliminating a rural water and wastewater loan and grant program that helps fund clean water and sewer systems in communities with fewer than 10,000 people. Other areas targeted for cuts include staffing at county-level USDA service centers.

If you are an industrial worker, you might be concerned about a 21 percent cut in the Labor Department, which will impact worker safety and training programs.

As one might expect, the AFL-CIO issued a blistering statement from its president, Richard Trumka:

Working people in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin didn’t vote for a budget that slashes workforce training and fails to invest in our nation’s infrastructure. President Trump’s proposed budget attempts to balance the budget on the backs of working families. The $54 billion cut to programs that benefit working families is dangerous and destructive. Huge cuts to the departments of Labor, Education and Transportation will make workplaces less safe, put more children at risk and make improving our failing infrastructure much more difficult. The administration can and should do better.”

The budget abandons the future—slashing investments in workers, communities, young people, protecting our environment and building democracy. There are major cuts in job training, education, health programs, the environment, the arts and foreign aid. Research programs in science and medicine are slashed. Sixty-two government programs/agencies are slated for elimination.

The budget, like the health-care plan, strikes at the heart of Trump’s campaign promises, which did not envision a libertarian evisceration of government. Trump leaves the details to others, but the details undermine his appeal to working-class voters, his core support. Either he never meant to be a different kind of Republican or his team has used his rhetorical routine to mask a budget that is less populist than any other in the modern era. Democrats would be wise to start analyzing the budget’s real-world impact — quantifying cuts to each state and to programs that serve people making, say, less than $75,000. What expenses are shifting onto the backs of working-class and middle-class people? What protections are eliminated? This is not going to match up with the beneficent image Trump tried to cultivate.

Trump hired a right-wing Cabinet, so it’s no surprise a right-wing budget and health-care plan emerged. Democrats would do well to focus on the clash between Trump, protector-of-the-little-guy, and Trump, friend-of-the-rich-and-powerful. The former was simply a sales pitch for the campaign; the reality should be a rude awakening for all those “new” GOP voters — who might be amenable to a true populist economic message from the other party.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...an-capitalize-on-trumps-betrayal-of-his-base/
 

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"Democrats would do well to focus on the clash between Trump, protector-of-the-little-guy, and Trump, friend-of-the-rich-and-powerful." Which is exactly what Bernie Sanders does, along with proposing better policies.

There's a YouTube commentator named Jimmy Dore whose thoughts on both Trump and the Democrats align with mine:

"People say I don't come down on Trump hard enough. I don't think you need to. I think he's already the most unpopular politician/president at this point in his presidency in the history of presidents. So, really? Again, the problem is that Trump is a symptom of the problem, he's not the problem. The problem is both political parties have turned their back on the workers in the country, that's what happened. And they got in bed with... both of them are in bed with Wall Street, the Military Industrial Complex, and Silicon Valley. So that's what happened. Now I don't blame you if you voted for him because you thought he was going to be a friend of the working man because he said he was going to be. He's not. Neither was Hillary Clinton. Neither is Barack Obama. Neither is the Democratic Party. Do you see the problem? Do you see why Trump is President? People had nowhere to go. That's what the Democrats were counting on, that people had nowhere to go. Well, they didn't go anywhere, they stayed home. That's what happens when you give them nowhere to go, they stay home. That's what happened in Michigan. That's what happened in Wisconsin."

 
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Polls show that 96% of the people who voted for him would do so again and think he's doing just great.

It's amazing how generous and patient they are with somebody they see as "one of their own".

And that's the problem. The white working class who voted him in with thunderous cohesion hold him to no standard at all, due to cultural identity issues. They see Trump as an idealized (ie, rich) version of themselves -- partly because he sold himself that way, and also because he looks the part (by their jaded standards).

You're seeing all over the news these poor, sad, rural white folks conceding that Obamacare literally saved their lives, and yet they all voted for Trump, would vote for him again, and are so willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt -- despite their healthcare and that of 25 million of their peers being on the chopping block.

"Rome wasn't built in a hundred days," they say. And they'd better hope not.

They are quite willing to die for Trump if he dictates that that's "what's necessary" because they see him as the kind of father figure they recognize, the kind of father figure status they are only willing to bestow on a bad man.

Just as they detest anyone who attempts to help them genuinely, because "strong men" don't do that. Real men hustle, and hustle successfully, even if the working class has an inkling that they're the ones being hustled. They're simply willing to sacrifice themselves, if need be.

And why? For what?

Who knows... But while I'll be the first to acknowledge that Trump is not Hitler, let us not forget that Hitler was not just a popular, clever politician who fooled a lot of people. He in fact became the most popular politician in modern european history. And that's no coincidence.

That pattern has repeated itself many times. A bad man who lies endlessly seems uncomplicated, unconflicted, and therefore strong, a "real man" whom people want as a leader. But a politician who actually sincerely wants and tries to help the people is viewed as a pu$$y because that's just not what real men do.

It's hard to overcome that psychology.

I'm not convinced they can be saved.
 

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Polls show that 96% of the people who voted for him would do so again and think he's doing just great.

It's amazing how generous and patient they are with somebody they see as "one of their own".

And that's the problem. The white working class who voted him in with thunderous cohesion hold him to no standard at all, due to cultural identity issues. They see Trump as an idealized (ie, rich) version of themselves -- partly because he sold himself that way, and also because he looks the part (by their jaded standards).

You're seeing all over the news these poor, sad, rural white folks conceding that Obamacare literally saved their lives, and yet they all voted for Trump, would vote for him again, and are so willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt -- despite their healthcare and that of 25 million of their peers being on the chopping block.

"Rome wasn't built in a hundred days," they say. And they'd better hope not.

They are quite willing to die for Trump if he dictates that that's "what's necessary" because they see him as the kind of father figure they recognize, the kind of father figure status they are only willing to bestow on a bad man.

Just as they detest anyone who attempts to help them genuinely, because "strong men" don't do that. Real men hustle, and hustle successfully, even if the working class has an inkling that they're the ones being hustled. They're simply willing to sacrifice themselves, if need be.

And why? For what?

Who knows... But while I'll be the first to acknowledge that Trump is not Hitler, let us not forget that Hitler was not just a popular, clever politician who fooled a lot of people. He in fact became the most popular politician in modern european history. And that's no coincidence.

That pattern has repeated itself many times. A bad man who lies endlessly seems uncomplicated, unconflicted, and therefore strong, a "real man" whom people want as a leader. But a politician who actually sincerely wants and tries to help the people is viewed as a pu$$y because that's just not what real men do.

It's hard to overcome that psychology.

I'm not convinced they can be saved.
Yes, that's a harsh reality. I understood why some people fell for Trump's faux populism in the beginning, but that's over with now. The poor and middle class Trump supporters who refuse to abandon him are deluded. They have become the useful idiots standing up against their own self interests. All progressives can do now is reach out to the rational, disillusioned Trump voters because they're still receptive to genuine populism.
 
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I recall what @TomParks2016 said to me in a pm in November: "the man has a heart and he will build that wall." If one is that delusional and unable to recognize Trump's obvious incompetence prior to the elections, they will never be able to see the light.

Then there are those who might be able to, but not willing. They disregard the facts, because the basis for their support is purely emotional. They just want to stick it to the liberals. I recently saw a comment: "What's so bad about North Korea nuking Los Angeles?"

I just hope all that Twitter chatter, as unreliable as it is, about massive indictments finally coming our way is true.
 

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The Republicans have done a very good job since the '80s of tricking the working class into thinking that they're the party that most represents their interests, despite endless Trickle Down Economics policy that only screws that working class over. And if they can successfully demonize Muslims, Mexicans and Lena Dunham as the architects of the working class's misery to help unify the rednecks, all the better.

At a certain point, they become responsible for their own deception and destruction.

I recall reading a op-ed piece by a prominent conservative essentially blaming Obama for all the sins from eight years of Dubya, and the piece came out on January 21, 2009 -- the day after Obama was inaugurated the first time. And when you know you can rewrite history that thoroughly that quickly with your key demographic, there's nothing else you can't get away with.
 

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When the rival party ignores the working class and supports trade policies that would send their jobs overseas, it makes a charlatan like Trump seem more convincing.

In my opinion, neither party was really for the workers this election. That's why there was so much hatred for the establishment. Trump managed to tap into that, and use it to his advantage. There will always be those conservatives who are motivated by racism, xenophobia, and the belief that Trump is actually working on their behalf. But there are also the people who see past the bullshit and are waiting on a candidate with a platform that will better their lives. Those are the Trump supporters Democrats need to work on. But as long as they reject the policies of the most popular politician in the country in favor of platitudes, I don't see much changing.

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I recall reading a op-ed piece by a prominent conservative essentially blaming Obama for all the sins from eight years of Dubya, and the piece came out on January 21, 2009 -- the day after Obama was inaugurated the first time. And when you know you can rewrite history that thoroughly that quickly with your key demographic, there's nothing else you can't get away with.
There will always be myopic conservatives who will believe that sort of thing. Sean Hannity once said Bush inherited the negative impact of 9/11 from Bill Clinton, even though 9/11 happened on Bush's watch.

But I've also come across my share of myopic Democrats who believe the Democratic Party still has the best interests of the poor and middle classes at heart.
 

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When the rival party ignores the working class and supports trade policies that would send their jobs overseas, it makes a charlatan like Trump seem more convincing.
No, they voted for Trump not based on policy but the way he "seemed" -- their kind of asshole and therefore a real man.

Once "one of their own" is in, they have no grasp or interest in policy.

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In my opinion, neither party was really for the workers this election. That's why there was so much hatred for the establishment. Trump managed to tap into that, and use it to his advantage. There will always be those conservatives who are motivated by racism, xenophobia, and the belief that Trump is actually working on their behalf. But there are also the people who see past the bullshit and are waiting on a candidate with a platform that will better their lives. Those are the Trump supporters Democrats need to work on. But as long as they reject the policies of the most popular politician in the country in favor of platitudes, I don't see much changing.


There will always be myopic conservatives who will believe that sort of thing. Sean Hannity once said Bush inherited the negative impact of 9/11 from Bill Clinton, even though 9/11 happened on Bush's watch.

But I've also come across my share of myopic Democrats who believe the Democratic Party still has the best interests of the poor and middle classes at heart.
For all the flaws and lackings of Democrats, it is absolutely not the same thing.

But you only care about the Sins of Hillary. Which are not irrelevant, but not at the center of what happened in November 2016.
 

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No, they voted for Trump not based on policy but the way he "seemed" -- their kind of asshole and therefore a real man.

Once "one of their own" is in, they have no grasp or interest in policy.

For all the flaws and lackings of Democrats, it is absolutely not the same thing.

But you only care about the Sins of Hillary. Which are not irrelevant, but not at the center of what happened in November 2016.
You have your way of looking at it, and I have mine.

Frankly, I think the sins of the Democratic Party as a whole played a huge role in November 2016. The people who admire the brash bravado of Trump have always existed. But is that really why 77,744 voters were able to push the electoral college in Trump's favor? I doubt it, especially since they happened to reside in the rust belt. Why would they vote Democrat when the Democrats didn't show up and support trade policies like TPP?

The Democratic firewall fell for a reason, but it's hard to believe that reason was simply because thousands of people wanted a tough talking asshole for president.
 
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You have your way of looking at it, and I have mine.

Frankly, I think the sins of the Democratic Party as a whole played a huge role in November 2016. The people who admire the brash bravado of Trump have always existed. But is that really why 77,744 voters were able to push the electoral college in Trump's favor? I doubt it, especially since they happened to reside in the rust belt. Why would they vote Democrat when the Democrats didn't show up and support trade policies like TPP?

The Democratic firewall fell for a reason, but it's hard to believe that reason was simply because thousands of people wanted a tough talking asshole for president.
Every point you've made about Hillary and the DNC has merit. But it's clear that trumps everything else, going by your posts. Even your occasional concessions about the Republicans and Trump himself are made thru gritted teeth and only occur when your bias is pointed out. Myopic indeed.
 

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Every point you've made about Hillary and the DNC has merit. But it's clear that trumps everything else, going by your posts. Even your occasional concessions about the Republicans and Trump himself are made thru gritted teeth and only occur when your bias is pointed out. Myopic indeed.
They're not concessions made through gritted teeth. From 2003 to 2016, all I did was bash Republicans here. I was also a huge advocate for Obama during his initial campaign and the early days of his presidency.

It's not like I stopped believing that Republican politicians were bad people. I just happen to believe the election was influenced differently than you do. I also believe it's important to hold the Democrats accountable. Republicans are the devil you know, but Democrats are often wolves in sheep's clothing. Now I could pretend that's not the case and focus solely on Trump, but I would have to ignore reality in order to do so.

Suggesting the discussions should only be geared towards Trump also shows bias, but I guess that doesn't matter since it's the bias of the majority here.

I feel like I've become the new "McGarrett" in the sense of being an outsider, even though I'm still a progressive.
 
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Myopic indeed.
And for the record, I wouldn't criticize the Democrats at all if I was truly myopic. I'd vote Democratic across the board, whether the candidate was a Hillary Clinton or a Bernie Sanders. I would be blue team all the way, and perform mental gymnastics in order to justify the corporate Democrats who've confirmed Trump's nominees, who are against a $15 an hour minimum wage and single payer, and who are pro-fracking and pro-TPP.

I think it's rather ridiculous to say that I have to be coerced into admitting Trump's flaws. In reality, I've been a vocal opponent of Republican policies here for thirteen years. The reason I've come out so hard against the Democrats this past year is because a lot has changed between Obama's candidacy and Obama's presidency. The reason Hillary lost to Obama in 2008 is the same reason she lost the presidential election this year. And that's because she's the epitome of status quo establishment politics, while candidate Obama stood for progressive values. Of course, as his presidency went on, he ended up becoming part of the establishment himself.

But it's not just them. Flip flopping corporatism has infected much of the Democratic Party, which is why they're wiped out at every level of government. It doesn't take a critical thinker to recognize what an abomination Trump's presidency is. Same goes for The Republican controlled Congress. What does require critical thinking is coming up with a strategy to beat them. And that requires a substantive postmortem of the Democratic Party. Just look at the town halls with Bernie. The Trump supporters he spoke with were receptive to his positions on health care, entitlements, and the minimum wage. Same goes for the unity tour he's been on with Tom Perez. When Perez refuses to support single payer health care, and instead uses platitudes regarding "hope" and "leading with our values," he gets boos. Bernie speaks in favor of policy positions people want, and is cheered.

But some people refuse to acknowledge that. They figure Trump voters will follow him to their demise because they love his brash bravado. And while his staunch supporters will do just that, especially those motivated by racism, sexism, and xenophobia, there are also the voters who felt betrayed by Democrats over things like TPP and a health care plan that left 29 million uninsured. Some Trump voters originally voted for Obama twice.

Progressive values resonate more than the establishment admits, which is why they screwed Bernie Sanders. As he correctly pointed out, they would rather go down with the Titanic as long as they have first class seats.
 

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I saw a story over the weekend where they were interviewing a contractor who'd been stiffed by Trump for 32,000 dollars over a paint job he'd done. When he sued, Trump followed his stated pattern of refusing to settle. When the painter inevitably won the law suit, he was rewarded not just 32,000 dollars but ten times that much, for legal fees and punitive damages, as the judge was apparently appalled that Trump allowed such a warranted demand for payment -- and for a paltry (to Trump) 32 thousand dollars -- to go to court in the first place.

But then the plaintiff painter revealed that he'd still voted for Trump, justifying the decision with an explanation he obviously felt was a philosophical one: "business is business, politics is politics."

He'd rather vote for the crook that ripped him off him than 'that crooked bitch Hillary' running her pedophile ring out of that pizzeria in Oregon.

So these folks aren't smart.

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I saw a story over the weekend where they were interviewing a contractor who'd been stiffed by Trump for 32,000 dollars over a paint job he'd done. When he sued, Trump followed his stated pattern of refusing to settle. When the painter inevitably won the law suit, he was rewarded not just 32,000 dollars but ten times that much, for legal fees and punitive damages, as the judge was apparently appalled that Trump allowed such a warranted demand for payment -- and for a paltry (to Trump) 32 thousand dollars -- to go to court in the first place.

But then the plaintiff painter revealed that he'd still voted for Trump, justifying the decision with an explanation he obviously felt was a philosophical one: "business is business, politics is politics."

He'd rather vote for the crook that ripped him off him than 'that crooked bitch Hillary' running her pedophile ring out of that pizzeria in Oregon.

So these folks aren't smart.

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Many of them aren't smart, which I've fully acknowledged. A guy like Trump will always have his minions who will follow him no matter what, even when he blatantly screws them over.

But I still believe the Trump voters who feel deceived into believing Trump was anti-establishment can be won over. They're the ones Democrats need to appeal to, not the ignorant low brow class.
 

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But I still believe the Trump voters who feel deceived into believing Trump was anti-establishment can be won over. They're the ones Democrats need to appeal to, not the ignorant low brow class.
If they supposedly have that level of intelligence, they should've already figured that out by now. However, I'm highly skeptical that anyone that smart could've been deceived by a lunatic like Trump in the first place.
 
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