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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 406049" data-attributes="member: 35">There was a time when that was the case, but I&#039;m not so sure it holds true today.&nbsp; Putting my personal feelings about Hillary Clinton aside, she did win the popular vote in 2016 by almost 3 million votes.&nbsp; Yes, the swing states went to Trump and allowed him to win the electoral college, but it wasn&#039;t because they refused to vote for a woman.&nbsp; Clinton had ignored the swing states and wouldn&#039;t campaign there, which left a lane open for Trump to position himself as the working class&#039;s champion.&nbsp; This disparity in approaches was emphasized again when Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer went on TV and said the Dems would pick up two moderate Republicans for every blue-collar Dem they lost.Of course, 2020 was completely different because of the pandemic.&nbsp; The country had also grown Trump weary.&nbsp; By voting for Biden, they also voted for the first woman of color Vice President.&nbsp; Biden may have been at the top of the ticket, but they apparently found Harris suitable to serve out the remainder of Biden&#039;s term should he be unable to do so.&nbsp; The problem Harris faces now is people have had 3 and a half years to see her in &quot;action,&quot; and it&#039;s clear that there&#039;s not much substance to her.&nbsp; She also carries the baggage of the Biden Administration&#039;s policies. Economic conditions for the lower classes have continued to decline.&nbsp; Meanwhile, they&#039;re funding a war in Ukraine and a genocide in Gaza.The bottom line is I believe a woman can become president, preferably if she has solid policy positions and is a competent speaker.&nbsp; Unfortunately, that&#039;s not Kamala Harris.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 406049, member: 35"] There was a time when that was the case, but I'm not so sure it holds true today. Putting my personal feelings about Hillary Clinton aside, she did win the popular vote in 2016 by almost 3 million votes. Yes, the swing states went to Trump and allowed him to win the electoral college, but it wasn't because they refused to vote for a woman. Clinton had ignored the swing states and wouldn't campaign there, which left a lane open for Trump to position himself as the working class's champion. This disparity in approaches was emphasized again when Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer went on TV and said the Dems would pick up two moderate Republicans for every blue-collar Dem they lost. Of course, 2020 was completely different because of the pandemic. The country had also grown Trump weary. By voting for Biden, they also voted for the first woman of color Vice President. Biden may have been at the top of the ticket, but they apparently found Harris suitable to serve out the remainder of Biden's term should he be unable to do so. The problem Harris faces now is people have had 3 and a half years to see her in "action," and it's clear that there's not much substance to her. She also carries the baggage of the Biden Administration's policies. Economic conditions for the lower classes have continued to decline. Meanwhile, they're funding a war in Ukraine and a genocide in Gaza. The bottom line is I believe a woman can become president, preferably if she has solid policy positions and is a competent speaker. Unfortunately, that's not Kamala Harris. [/QUOTE]

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