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<blockquote data-quote="Snarky Oracle!" data-source="post: 239342" data-attributes="member: 57984"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">The JFK Assassination -- What did Joan Crawford know and when did she know it?</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">[ATTACH=full]22948[/ATTACH]</span></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Joan Crawford attended the Pepsi bottlers convention taking place in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. She had paused the proceedings when she and several Pepsi executives stepped briefly from the Baker Hotel, where the convention was being held, to watch the presidential motorcade go by.</p><p></p><p>Apparently, an invitation had been extended to both Joan Crawford and Richard Nixon from White House staff members to attend the scheduled luncheon speech that President Kennedy was to deliver at the Dallas Trade Mart. Without being overtly partisan, Crawford told a reporter, “No, I don’t think either of us will attend the luncheon here for President Kennedy,” she smiled.</p><p></p><p>Richard Nixon, former Vice President and JFK's opponent in the 1960 presidential election (and one of the only people in the world who couldn't remember where he was when he first heard about Jack Kennedy's assassination) was also in Dallas with Crawford as a lawyer on the board of Pepsi. (Incidentally, one of the only other people who couldn't recall where they were when Kennedy died was future president George H W Bush, whose boats -- the Houston and the Barbara -- were used in the Bay of Pigs fiasco, despite "Poppy" Bush supposedly having no CIA connections before he was made the agency's Director in 1974 ostensibly to clean it up after it had taken some serious public relations hits following revelations about CIA/mafia assassination plots. On the day of the assassination in 1963, Bush called in a message to the FBI that he had a suspicion that an acquaintance may have been involved in Kennedy's death, the false lead went essentially nowhere, and years later that person was, quite oddly, working for Bush).</p><p></p><p>Lyndon Johnson's mistress, Madeleine Duncan Brown, and well-known to the press corps in 1963, claimed there was a society party in the Murchison mansion in North Dallas on the night of November 21st, the evening before Kennedy's murder, and that LBJ showed up unexpectedly from Houston at around 11:00pm, at which point things got tense and all the important men -- including Nixon -- disappeared into the conference room at the sprawling home of the oil magnate, Clint Murchison.</p><p></p><p>Also in attendance were FBI Director J Edgar Hoover, and Dallas oil men H L Hunt and Sid Richardson, as well as executives from Brown & Root which had just gone under the corporate umbrella of Halliburton only a year earlier.</p><p></p><p>According to Madeleine Brown, Lyndon Johnson emerged from the meeting with several of the men after about 15 minutes, and he told her: “After tomorrow, those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That’s no threat. That’s a promise.”</p><p></p><p>Naturally, there have been attempts to impugn Miss Brown's integrity, including an attempt to frame her for forgery (the charges against her dropped on appeal when they realized she was going to win) and claims that Nixon couldn't have been at the Murchison soiree because he and Joan Crawford were at comic Robert Clary's stage show at a Dallas hotel and that Clary acknowledged Nixon with a joke as he and Joan entered the room and joined the audience. This was supposedly around 8:00pm just as Nixon was allegedly crossing the threshold of Murchison's house.</p><p></p><p>However, a member of the Dallas press -- and future iconic White House press reporter, Helen Thomas, was in attendance at the party, and later signed an affidavit verifying that the party indeed occurred and as to who the notable guests were --- and it lined up with what Madeleine Duncan Brown has said. (I'm not aware of anyone asserting that Joan Crawford was at the November 21st party, with or without Nixon),</p><p></p><p>Staff employees of the Murchison home claimed that the Murchison family were jubilant at the news the next day that JFK had been assassinated, and that champagne and caviar flowed for a week. </p><p></p><p>Crawford and Nixon were quoted in the local press the next morning, only hours before the presidential murder, taunting JFK over his use of the protective bubble top sometimes applied over the presidential limousine for purposes of weather or to prevent gunfire injury in a known hostile city like Dallas. Some have suggested that this may have possibly been a motive for Kennedy choosing not to use the bubble.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, Brown wouldn't see her lover, LBJ, now the president, for 5 more weeks when he was in Texas for New Year's Eve. But during that 5 weeks, Brown said that society gossip around Texas and Dallas was ubiquitous that LBJ had caused the assassination of his dapper predecessor. Brown confronted Johnson in their hotel room, he flew into a rage, hit the wall, calmed down, and then told her that while he had not caused the murder, the oil fat-cats that she knew and socialized with in Texas, along with the CIA, had been the people who'd planned and carried out the killing. He then asserted that he'd said too much, and then went back downstairs to the hotel party, leaving Brown to melt down in their room alone, unable to believe how ugly it all was. She never broached the topic again with him, and she saw much less of Johnson for the next 6 years because of his presidential duties in Washington, D.C.</p><p></p><p>Joan Crawford was also good friends with crusading reporter and gossip columnist, Dorothy Kilgallen. Kilgallen was very famous at the time, was a weekly participant in the "What's My Line?" primetime TV game show, was an old drinking buddy of Miss Crawford's, and even toured with Joan while she was promoting STRAIT-JACKET only a few weeks after the assassination... But the aptly-named Kilgallen had come to realize that there was something dreadfully wrong about the official "lone nut" cover story in Kennedy's murder, and Dorothy went after the story, managing to be the only reporter to secure a jail house interview with Jack Ruby, the assassin of alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. A wee bit loose lipped, Kilgallen told friends that she was going to break the case wide open, one of the biggest crimes in American history. Later, she was found dead of an overdose in her NYC apartment on November 8, 1965 --- only a day before the most infamous of New York black-outs (which, perhaps ironically, was portrayed in Joan Crawford's 1969 pilot episode for Rod Serling's NIGHT GALLERY anthology series). But police and friends of Dorothy found the death scene highly suspicious -- she was found in a rarely-used guest room, reading a book she'd already completed, with her requisite reading glasses nowhere near her body; it seemed staged. Her husband would tell people that he'd destroyed Dorothy's records and notes on the assassination before he himself committed presumed suicide in 1971.</p><p></p><p>Crawford was tied in with all of these people. What could she have known and when could she have known it? (Pepsi's political activities at the time could also stand to be looked at.) When Joan's adopted daughter, Christina, has hinted about these things, she's gotten some push-back from Joan's legion of fans (including when Christina has questioned how Joan's husband, Alfred Steele, Vice President of Pepsi-Cola in the 1950s, died).</p><p></p><p>When Joan died in May 1977, at the probable age of 74, she had only two framed photos in her NYC apartment -- one of old pal Barbara Stanwyck and one of President John F. Kennedy.... Nostalgic memory --- or hunting trophy??</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Joan Crawford in Dallas on November 21, 1963, the day before President Kennedy's assassination.</em></p><p>[ATTACH=full]22949[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarky Oracle!, post: 239342, member: 57984"] [B][SIZE=5]The JFK Assassination -- What did Joan Crawford know and when did she know it? [ATTACH type="full" alt="1600850327034.png"]22948[/ATTACH][/SIZE][/B] Joan Crawford attended the Pepsi bottlers convention taking place in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. She had paused the proceedings when she and several Pepsi executives stepped briefly from the Baker Hotel, where the convention was being held, to watch the presidential motorcade go by. Apparently, an invitation had been extended to both Joan Crawford and Richard Nixon from White House staff members to attend the scheduled luncheon speech that President Kennedy was to deliver at the Dallas Trade Mart. Without being overtly partisan, Crawford told a reporter, “No, I don’t think either of us will attend the luncheon here for President Kennedy,” she smiled. Richard Nixon, former Vice President and JFK's opponent in the 1960 presidential election (and one of the only people in the world who couldn't remember where he was when he first heard about Jack Kennedy's assassination) was also in Dallas with Crawford as a lawyer on the board of Pepsi. (Incidentally, one of the only other people who couldn't recall where they were when Kennedy died was future president George H W Bush, whose boats -- the Houston and the Barbara -- were used in the Bay of Pigs fiasco, despite "Poppy" Bush supposedly having no CIA connections before he was made the agency's Director in 1974 ostensibly to clean it up after it had taken some serious public relations hits following revelations about CIA/mafia assassination plots. On the day of the assassination in 1963, Bush called in a message to the FBI that he had a suspicion that an acquaintance may have been involved in Kennedy's death, the false lead went essentially nowhere, and years later that person was, quite oddly, working for Bush). Lyndon Johnson's mistress, Madeleine Duncan Brown, and well-known to the press corps in 1963, claimed there was a society party in the Murchison mansion in North Dallas on the night of November 21st, the evening before Kennedy's murder, and that LBJ showed up unexpectedly from Houston at around 11:00pm, at which point things got tense and all the important men -- including Nixon -- disappeared into the conference room at the sprawling home of the oil magnate, Clint Murchison. Also in attendance were FBI Director J Edgar Hoover, and Dallas oil men H L Hunt and Sid Richardson, as well as executives from Brown & Root which had just gone under the corporate umbrella of Halliburton only a year earlier. According to Madeleine Brown, Lyndon Johnson emerged from the meeting with several of the men after about 15 minutes, and he told her: “After tomorrow, those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That’s no threat. That’s a promise.” Naturally, there have been attempts to impugn Miss Brown's integrity, including an attempt to frame her for forgery (the charges against her dropped on appeal when they realized she was going to win) and claims that Nixon couldn't have been at the Murchison soiree because he and Joan Crawford were at comic Robert Clary's stage show at a Dallas hotel and that Clary acknowledged Nixon with a joke as he and Joan entered the room and joined the audience. This was supposedly around 8:00pm just as Nixon was allegedly crossing the threshold of Murchison's house. However, a member of the Dallas press -- and future iconic White House press reporter, Helen Thomas, was in attendance at the party, and later signed an affidavit verifying that the party indeed occurred and as to who the notable guests were --- and it lined up with what Madeleine Duncan Brown has said. (I'm not aware of anyone asserting that Joan Crawford was at the November 21st party, with or without Nixon), Staff employees of the Murchison home claimed that the Murchison family were jubilant at the news the next day that JFK had been assassinated, and that champagne and caviar flowed for a week. Crawford and Nixon were quoted in the local press the next morning, only hours before the presidential murder, taunting JFK over his use of the protective bubble top sometimes applied over the presidential limousine for purposes of weather or to prevent gunfire injury in a known hostile city like Dallas. Some have suggested that this may have possibly been a motive for Kennedy choosing not to use the bubble. At any rate, Brown wouldn't see her lover, LBJ, now the president, for 5 more weeks when he was in Texas for New Year's Eve. But during that 5 weeks, Brown said that society gossip around Texas and Dallas was ubiquitous that LBJ had caused the assassination of his dapper predecessor. Brown confronted Johnson in their hotel room, he flew into a rage, hit the wall, calmed down, and then told her that while he had not caused the murder, the oil fat-cats that she knew and socialized with in Texas, along with the CIA, had been the people who'd planned and carried out the killing. He then asserted that he'd said too much, and then went back downstairs to the hotel party, leaving Brown to melt down in their room alone, unable to believe how ugly it all was. She never broached the topic again with him, and she saw much less of Johnson for the next 6 years because of his presidential duties in Washington, D.C. Joan Crawford was also good friends with crusading reporter and gossip columnist, Dorothy Kilgallen. Kilgallen was very famous at the time, was a weekly participant in the "What's My Line?" primetime TV game show, was an old drinking buddy of Miss Crawford's, and even toured with Joan while she was promoting STRAIT-JACKET only a few weeks after the assassination... But the aptly-named Kilgallen had come to realize that there was something dreadfully wrong about the official "lone nut" cover story in Kennedy's murder, and Dorothy went after the story, managing to be the only reporter to secure a jail house interview with Jack Ruby, the assassin of alleged assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. A wee bit loose lipped, Kilgallen told friends that she was going to break the case wide open, one of the biggest crimes in American history. Later, she was found dead of an overdose in her NYC apartment on November 8, 1965 --- only a day before the most infamous of New York black-outs (which, perhaps ironically, was portrayed in Joan Crawford's 1969 pilot episode for Rod Serling's NIGHT GALLERY anthology series). But police and friends of Dorothy found the death scene highly suspicious -- she was found in a rarely-used guest room, reading a book she'd already completed, with her requisite reading glasses nowhere near her body; it seemed staged. Her husband would tell people that he'd destroyed Dorothy's records and notes on the assassination before he himself committed presumed suicide in 1971. Crawford was tied in with all of these people. What could she have known and when could she have known it? (Pepsi's political activities at the time could also stand to be looked at.) When Joan's adopted daughter, Christina, has hinted about these things, she's gotten some push-back from Joan's legion of fans (including when Christina has questioned how Joan's husband, Alfred Steele, Vice President of Pepsi-Cola in the 1950s, died). When Joan died in May 1977, at the probable age of 74, she had only two framed photos in her NYC apartment -- one of old pal Barbara Stanwyck and one of President John F. Kennedy.... Nostalgic memory --- or hunting trophy?? [I]Joan Crawford in Dallas on November 21, 1963, the day before President Kennedy's assassination.[/I] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1600851088662.png"]22949[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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