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<blockquote data-quote="Daniel Avery" data-source="post: 124640" data-attributes="member: 27">There are two ways of looking at these heart-to-heart talks between Karen and Pat.&nbsp; At the time, I thought it was just the writers efforts to integrate Pat (and Frank) into the show, having the sorts of around-the-kitchen-table chats we saw so often with Karen/Pat and Mack/Frank.&nbsp; In retrospect, I look at their growing friendship as the writers&#039; efforts to move past Karen and Val&#039;s BFF status, to make Pat into Karen&#039;s new confidante while Val gets left out.&nbsp; At another time, that scene would have been Karen, Pat, AND Val, but of course Val being left out of the fun (and only involved in her own melodrama) seems to be more frequent.&nbsp; Eventually it looks like Pat is Karen&#039;s more &quot;rational&quot; friend and Val something of the &#039;wacky neighbor&#039; they both talk about rather than talk with.&nbsp; Whether this was purposeful because of the upcoming story or it was just the choice of the writers who seemed not to like writing &quot;normal&quot; stuff for Val (while continuing to do it for the others, even giving Karen and Mack new characters to do such scenes with), I&#039;m not sure.But I have to say the deadpan way ML delivered that last line was one of the funniest lines of the entire series, in my opinion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Daniel Avery, post: 124640, member: 27"] There are two ways of looking at these heart-to-heart talks between Karen and Pat. At the time, I thought it was just the writers efforts to integrate Pat (and Frank) into the show, having the sorts of around-the-kitchen-table chats we saw so often with Karen/Pat and Mack/Frank. In retrospect, I look at their growing friendship as the writers' efforts to move past Karen and Val's BFF status, to make Pat into Karen's new confidante while Val gets left out. At another time, that scene would have been Karen, Pat, AND Val, but of course Val being left out of the fun (and only involved in her own melodrama) seems to be more frequent. Eventually it looks like Pat is Karen's more "rational" friend and Val something of the 'wacky neighbor' they both talk [I]about[/I] rather than talk[I] with[/I]. Whether this was purposeful because of the upcoming story or it was just the choice of the writers who seemed not to like writing "normal" stuff for Val (while continuing to do it for the others, even giving Karen and Mack new characters to do such scenes with), I'm not sure. But I have to say the deadpan way ML delivered that last line was one of the funniest lines of the entire series, in my opinion. [/QUOTE]

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