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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Torrance" data-source="post: 151135" data-attributes="member: 719"><p>Some weeks ago, I was within earshot of a group of (straight) men who were, in their minds, flirting with the hostess at a restaurant. The woman, who was indeed good looking, was clearly not interested and did not engage, but that did not stop them from one attempt after another. Nothing offensive about her body etc., but their insistent requests to get her phone number or to inquire about her relationship status were pretty annoying--<em>to me</em>, but the woman tried to hide her displeasure with not that great success. </p><p></p><p>I say that to point out that there are indeed behaviors that are inexcusable, and that I don't think such behavior falls under the "boys will be boys" category. In her position as an employee of the restaurant, she could not really tell them what she thought of their crude behavior and had to be civil to them when they were anything but. Yet the way commercials like the above paint all men with the same brush do great damage to real situations where women in such situations are in the right and the behavior of certain men is in the wrong. They remove all conditions and force the acceptance that all women are always right and all men are always toxic. And then that becomes a laughable proposition and one easy to reject, which comes back to haunt the same cause such declarations pay lip service to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Torrance, post: 151135, member: 719"] Some weeks ago, I was within earshot of a group of (straight) men who were, in their minds, flirting with the hostess at a restaurant. The woman, who was indeed good looking, was clearly not interested and did not engage, but that did not stop them from one attempt after another. Nothing offensive about her body etc., but their insistent requests to get her phone number or to inquire about her relationship status were pretty annoying--[I]to me[/I], but the woman tried to hide her displeasure with not that great success. I say that to point out that there are indeed behaviors that are inexcusable, and that I don't think such behavior falls under the "boys will be boys" category. In her position as an employee of the restaurant, she could not really tell them what she thought of their crude behavior and had to be civil to them when they were anything but. Yet the way commercials like the above paint all men with the same brush do great damage to real situations where women in such situations are in the right and the behavior of certain men is in the wrong. They remove all conditions and force the acceptance that all women are always right and all men are always toxic. And then that becomes a laughable proposition and one easy to reject, which comes back to haunt the same cause such declarations pay lip service to. [/QUOTE]
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