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<blockquote data-quote="Angela Channing" data-source="post: 443470" data-attributes="member: 33">I&#039;m not interested in the extremists because they give people the opportunity to say &quot;look at&nbsp; what they are doing&quot; while ignoring the very real issues of gender inequality. Yes, we all want men and women to have equal opportunities but in the real world it&#039;s not good enough to just hope it will happen, we have to take material steps to get there. If DEI initiatives are not the way forward, how do you think we will get to that point of equality? You ask why is gender parity important. Because women generally understand issues that relate to them better than men do. If we want better and fairer outcomes for women, history shows it won&#039;t happen if it&#039;s left to men to make the necessary changes. No, you have chosen to define #MeToo according to how it fits into your argument. #MeToo was never about clumsy interactions on dates but about men abusing their power and position to take advantage of women. Quotas are another side issue that allows people to avoid the central point. I don&#039;t care about quotas, we don&#039;t have gender quotas in the UK, and I&#039;m not clear which specific quotas you are referring to. However, the gender breakdown of roles do give a useful indication of how much further we need to go to achieve greater equality. If senior positions are going to men at a rate of 2 to 1, then there is something systematically biased against women in that system. What specific laws or guidence do you think should be undone? Specifically, which are the stats and talking points that you think are lies and what do you think are the more accurate ones?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Angela Channing, post: 443470, member: 33"] I'm not interested in the extremists because they give people the opportunity to say "look at what they are doing" while ignoring the very real issues of gender inequality. Yes, we all want men and women to have equal opportunities but in the real world it's not good enough to just hope it will happen, we have to take material steps to get there. If DEI initiatives are not the way forward, how do you think we will get to that point of equality? You ask why is gender parity important. Because women generally understand issues that relate to them better than men do. If we want better and fairer outcomes for women, history shows it won't happen if it's left to men to make the necessary changes. No, you have chosen to define #MeToo according to how it fits into your argument. #MeToo was never about clumsy interactions on dates but about men abusing their power and position to take advantage of women. Quotas are another side issue that allows people to avoid the central point. I don't care about quotas, we don't have gender quotas in the UK, and I'm not clear which specific quotas you are referring to. However, the gender breakdown of roles do give a useful indication of how much further we need to go to achieve greater equality. If senior positions are going to men at a rate of 2 to 1, then there is something systematically biased against women in that system. What specific laws or guidence do you think should be undone? Specifically, which are the stats and talking points that you think are lies and what do you think are the more accurate ones? [/QUOTE]

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