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<blockquote data-quote="CeeCee72" data-source="post: 443478" data-attributes="member: 5055">A couple of points.-&quot;Always believe the women&quot; is something that I have always despised. I would say &quot;always LISTEN to the women.&quot; However, we should always listen to the men too. After all, at least 1 in 6 MEN are sexually assaulted in their lifetime and they have a hard time getting justice too.- Equal opportunity versus equal outcomes - Unfortunately, women still do NOT have equal opportunities in the US workforce. The pay gap has been closing, but it still exists. Women are often passed over for promotions they have earned simply because they are women. That&#039;s a fact.- Mental health - This country has refused to confront the mental health crisis for years now. Most of our mass shootings are a direct result of mental illness. Clancy&#039;s actions were a direct result of mental illness. YES, both men and women should be held accountable for the crimes they commit, mentally ill or not, but perhaps the best way to reduce these horrific crimes is to elect representatives who are willing to do something about the lack of access to mental health care for BOTH men AND women.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CeeCee72, post: 443478, member: 5055"] A couple of points. -"Always believe the women" is something that I have always despised. I would say "always LISTEN to the women." However, we should always listen to the men too. After all, at least 1 in 6 MEN are sexually assaulted in their lifetime and they have a hard time getting justice too. - Equal opportunity versus equal outcomes - Unfortunately, women still do NOT have equal opportunities in the US workforce. The pay gap has been closing, but it still exists. Women are often passed over for promotions they have earned simply because they are women. That's a fact. - Mental health - This country has refused to confront the mental health crisis for years now. Most of our mass shootings are a direct result of mental illness. Clancy's actions were a direct result of mental illness. YES, both men and women should be held accountable for the crimes they commit, mentally ill or not, but perhaps the best way to reduce these horrific crimes is to elect representatives who are willing to do something about the lack of access to mental health care for BOTH men AND women. [/QUOTE]

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