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<blockquote data-quote="Emelee" data-source="post: 88196" data-attributes="member: 73"><p>The rant against feminism amongst men is horrible, and it's horrible because they don't even understand feminism. I have never actually met a feminist woman who hates men, or a feminist woman who thinks women are better than men. Where are these people in real life??? </p><p></p><p>The feminist goal has NOT been reached. No country has ever reached equality. Of the world's 195 countries, 195 are strong or soft patriartic countries. The man is the norm, and the women is not. It has been established that women get worse deals when buying cars. It has been established that women get worse health care. Far more men are choosen for board membership than women. Women don't earn as much money, even though women in a number of countries have longer educations. So how can feminism have reached the goal? We are not equal. </p><p></p><p>Nor are we equal when it comes to sexual crimes. Men are overly representative there as well. </p><p></p><p>And the ONLY way for this to ever change is if men gather and say "enough is enough - <u>we</u> have to change this". Cause only the people who have the power can give some of it away. Women can't take power, we must ask for it. </p><p></p><p>Every time I hear that feminism is crap, evil or delusional, I get seriously mad. Either they don't know what the real goal is (which is understandable if they have only heard it being bashed) - or they know what the goal is, but just feel that women shouldn't have the same rights.</p><p></p><p>It's the exact same thing with racism. Only the white people on earth can give the black people power. We abolished slavery. But blacks are still being treated worse than whites. And that's on all of us - even if we are racists or not. Meaning that it's <strong>my</strong> <strong>frickin responsibility to step up</strong> whenever I hear something racist or see someone being mistreated because of their skin color. I am obliged to act on it or speak up because it's just plain wrong - and because as a white person, I am part of the previlaged group. </p><p></p><p>Social constructions are created by human beings to tell everyone how one is supposed to look, act and think. Long ago, white men decided that if you are a white Christian man, then you are ranked the highest. And those below you are not worth as much, therefore they can be your slaves or victims. It was ok to own people, black people. And treat them horribly and force them to work for you. All because you had the power and they didn't. </p><p></p><p></p><p>When men excuse themselves by saying "not all men rape", they just don't see the big picture!!!! So I suggest you look back. Not all white people owned slaves either. But it was every bit their problem too that this hierarchy continued to exist. They didn't side with the blacks, against slave owners, until the slaves started to demand being liberated and treated equal. When the pressure got too big, the whites finally gave in and abolished slavery. Blacks got treated much better. But are blacks treated the same as whites today? Absolutely not!!! </p><p></p><p>The hierarchy is still there. </p><p></p><p>And that is what I mean when I say that men has a responsibility here, no matter if they are rapists or appalled by rapists. Social structures are still having us unequal, and only a change in social structions can help. And the only way that women can get the same respect is if the men of the world stand up for everyones right to be treated the same. And women has to follow through and respect men in the same way once they reach the same level. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Boys get raped too - but in many cases, it's men that rapes them. It is 100% just as horrible, and should never happen. But keep in mind that it's seldom women who rapes. </p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Here are some horrific statistics for the UN:</strong></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It is estimated that 35% of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or sexual violence by a non-partner at some point in their lives. However, some national studies show that up to 70% of women have experienced physical and/or sexual violence from an intimate partner in their lifetime. <span style="color: #ff0000">(Sexual harrassment, sexual bullying or "innocent" groping is not counted as physical or sexual violence)</span>. <br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">43% of women in the 28 European Union Member States have experienced some form of psychological violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime. <span style="color: #ff0000">(Keep in mind, 43% is only the number of <u>reported</u> violence)</span><br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It is estimated that of all women who were the victims of homicide globally in 2012, almost half were killed by intimate partners or family members, compared to less than 6% of men killed in the same year<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">More than 25% of women in Washington DC, have experienced some form of sexual harassment on public transportation, according to a survey conducted in 2016<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Worldwide, almost 750 million women and girls alive today were married before their 18thbirthday. Child marriage is more common in West and Central Africa, where over 4 in 10 girls were married before age 18, and about 1 in 7 were married or in union before age 15. <br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Around 120 million girls worldwide have experienced forced intercourse or other forced sexual acts at some point in their lives. By far the most common perpetrators of sexual violence against girls are current or former husbands, partners or boyfriends. <span style="color: #ff0000">(Again, 120 million girls only represent the <u>reported</u> cases)</span>.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">At least 200 million women and girls alive today have undergone female genital mutilation in the 30 countries with representative data on prevalence. In most of these countries, the majority of girls were cut before age 5.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Women and girls account for 71% of all human trafficking victims detected globally. <br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">10% of women in the European Union report having experienced cyber-harassment since the age of 15 (including having received unwanted, offensive sexually explicit emails or SMS messages, or offensive, inappropriate advances on social networking sites). The risk is highest among young women between 18 and 29 years of age <br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">An estimated 246 million girls and boys experience school-related violence every year and one in four girls say that they never feel comfortable using school latrines, according to a survey on youth conducted across four regions. The extent and forms of school-related violence that girls and boys experience differ, but evidence suggests that girls are at greater risk of sexual violence, harassment and exploitation. In addition to the resulting adverse psychological, sexual and reproductive health consequences, school-related gender-based violence is a major obstacle to universal schooling and the right to education for girls [<a href="http://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/ending-violence-against-women/facts-and-figures#notes" target="_blank">11</a>].</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">23% of female undergraduate university students reported having experienced sexual assault or sexual misconduct in a survey across 27 universities in the United States in 2015. <br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">82% of women parliamentarians who participated in a study conducted by the Inter-parliamentary Union in 39 countries across 5 regions reported having experienced some form of psychological violence while serving their terms. Psychological violence was defined as remarks, gestures and images of a sexist or humiliating sexual nature made against them or threats and/or mobbing to which they might have been subjected. 44% of them reported having received death, rape, assault or abduction threats towards them or their families</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>Who on earth can read such statistics and still feel that feminism is evil? </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Every single person who <u>isn't</u> a rapist, who <u>isn't</u> a sexual predator, who <u>isn't</u> a groping harrassing person needs to talk about these issues - be open about there being a massive problem, and fight it. Cause lord knows, the rapists, predators, harrassers and scumbags of the earth won't suddenly wake up one morning and realize "hey, what I am doing is appalling, and I need to stop this at once". THAT is why it's on the rest of us. We want to decrease the number of people being subjected to these things, preferably down to 0. </p><p></p><p>And guess what -- women have tried. But we can't do it alone. We NEED you guys who aren't rapists, who aren't sexual bullies to help us. </p><p>This isn't only on us. We have told our stories time and time and time and time again. And NOTHING happens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Emelee, post: 88196, member: 73"] The rant against feminism amongst men is horrible, and it's horrible because they don't even understand feminism. I have never actually met a feminist woman who hates men, or a feminist woman who thinks women are better than men. Where are these people in real life??? The feminist goal has NOT been reached. No country has ever reached equality. Of the world's 195 countries, 195 are strong or soft patriartic countries. The man is the norm, and the women is not. It has been established that women get worse deals when buying cars. It has been established that women get worse health care. Far more men are choosen for board membership than women. Women don't earn as much money, even though women in a number of countries have longer educations. So how can feminism have reached the goal? We are not equal. Nor are we equal when it comes to sexual crimes. Men are overly representative there as well. And the ONLY way for this to ever change is if men gather and say "enough is enough - [U]we[/U] have to change this". Cause only the people who have the power can give some of it away. Women can't take power, we must ask for it. Every time I hear that feminism is crap, evil or delusional, I get seriously mad. Either they don't know what the real goal is (which is understandable if they have only heard it being bashed) - or they know what the goal is, but just feel that women shouldn't have the same rights. It's the exact same thing with racism. Only the white people on earth can give the black people power. We abolished slavery. But blacks are still being treated worse than whites. And that's on all of us - even if we are racists or not. Meaning that it's [B]my[/B] [B]frickin responsibility to step up[/B] whenever I hear something racist or see someone being mistreated because of their skin color. I am obliged to act on it or speak up because it's just plain wrong - and because as a white person, I am part of the previlaged group. Social constructions are created by human beings to tell everyone how one is supposed to look, act and think. Long ago, white men decided that if you are a white Christian man, then you are ranked the highest. And those below you are not worth as much, therefore they can be your slaves or victims. It was ok to own people, black people. And treat them horribly and force them to work for you. All because you had the power and they didn't. When men excuse themselves by saying "not all men rape", they just don't see the big picture!!!! So I suggest you look back. Not all white people owned slaves either. But it was every bit their problem too that this hierarchy continued to exist. They didn't side with the blacks, against slave owners, until the slaves started to demand being liberated and treated equal. When the pressure got too big, the whites finally gave in and abolished slavery. Blacks got treated much better. But are blacks treated the same as whites today? Absolutely not!!! The hierarchy is still there. And that is what I mean when I say that men has a responsibility here, no matter if they are rapists or appalled by rapists. Social structures are still having us unequal, and only a change in social structions can help. And the only way that women can get the same respect is if the men of the world stand up for everyones right to be treated the same. And women has to follow through and respect men in the same way once they reach the same level. Boys get raped too - but in many cases, it's men that rapes them. It is 100% just as horrible, and should never happen. But keep in mind that it's seldom women who rapes. [B]Here are some horrific statistics for the UN:[/B] [LIST] [*]It is estimated that 35% of women worldwide have experienced either physical and/or sexual intimate partner violence or sexual violence by a non-partner at some point in their lives. However, some national studies show that up to 70% of women have experienced physical and/or sexual violence from an intimate partner in their lifetime. [COLOR=#ff0000](Sexual harrassment, sexual bullying or "innocent" groping is not counted as physical or sexual violence)[/COLOR]. [*]43% of women in the 28 European Union Member States have experienced some form of psychological violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime. [COLOR=#ff0000](Keep in mind, 43% is only the number of [U]reported[/U] violence)[/COLOR] [*]It is estimated that of all women who were the victims of homicide globally in 2012, almost half were killed by intimate partners or family members, compared to less than 6% of men killed in the same year [*]More than 25% of women in Washington DC, have experienced some form of sexual harassment on public transportation, according to a survey conducted in 2016 [*]Worldwide, almost 750 million women and girls alive today were married before their 18thbirthday. Child marriage is more common in West and Central Africa, where over 4 in 10 girls were married before age 18, and about 1 in 7 were married or in union before age 15. [*]Around 120 million girls worldwide have experienced forced intercourse or other forced sexual acts at some point in their lives. By far the most common perpetrators of sexual violence against girls are current or former husbands, partners or boyfriends. [COLOR=#ff0000](Again, 120 million girls only represent the [U]reported[/U] cases)[/COLOR]. [*]At least 200 million women and girls alive today have undergone female genital mutilation in the 30 countries with representative data on prevalence. In most of these countries, the majority of girls were cut before age 5. [*]Women and girls account for 71% of all human trafficking victims detected globally. [*]10% of women in the European Union report having experienced cyber-harassment since the age of 15 (including having received unwanted, offensive sexually explicit emails or SMS messages, or offensive, inappropriate advances on social networking sites). The risk is highest among young women between 18 and 29 years of age [*]An estimated 246 million girls and boys experience school-related violence every year and one in four girls say that they never feel comfortable using school latrines, according to a survey on youth conducted across four regions. The extent and forms of school-related violence that girls and boys experience differ, but evidence suggests that girls are at greater risk of sexual violence, harassment and exploitation. In addition to the resulting adverse psychological, sexual and reproductive health consequences, school-related gender-based violence is a major obstacle to universal schooling and the right to education for girls [[URL='http://www.unwomen.org/en/what-we-do/ending-violence-against-women/facts-and-figures#notes']11[/URL]]. [*]23% of female undergraduate university students reported having experienced sexual assault or sexual misconduct in a survey across 27 universities in the United States in 2015. [*]82% of women parliamentarians who participated in a study conducted by the Inter-parliamentary Union in 39 countries across 5 regions reported having experienced some form of psychological violence while serving their terms. Psychological violence was defined as remarks, gestures and images of a sexist or humiliating sexual nature made against them or threats and/or mobbing to which they might have been subjected. 44% of them reported having received death, rape, assault or abduction threats towards them or their families [/LIST] [B]Who on earth can read such statistics and still feel that feminism is evil? [/B] Every single person who [U]isn't[/U] a rapist, who [U]isn't[/U] a sexual predator, who [U]isn't[/U] a groping harrassing person needs to talk about these issues - be open about there being a massive problem, and fight it. Cause lord knows, the rapists, predators, harrassers and scumbags of the earth won't suddenly wake up one morning and realize "hey, what I am doing is appalling, and I need to stop this at once". THAT is why it's on the rest of us. We want to decrease the number of people being subjected to these things, preferably down to 0. And guess what -- women have tried. But we can't do it alone. We NEED you guys who aren't rapists, who aren't sexual bullies to help us. This isn't only on us. We have told our stories time and time and time and time again. And NOTHING happens. [/QUOTE]
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