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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 88264" data-attributes="member: 35">I&#039;ve only skimmed the rest of the thread because it&#039;s clear what direction it&#039;s going in.&nbsp; You&#039;re going to continue to be &quot;sickened and appalled&quot; and find our &quot;rants against feminism horrible&quot; because you&#039;re not interested in the substance of what we&#039;re saying.&nbsp; No one on this thread is siding against victims of sexual abuse.&nbsp; What we&#039;re calling out are the feminists who speak down to men, treat them like they&#039;re all potential rapists or rape enablers, expect men to conform to their way of thinking, and yet trivialize abuse against men and boys.And as for &quot;not understanding feminism,&quot; we understand the movement&#039;s original purpose was equality for both genders.&nbsp; However, we&#039;ve made it clear countless times that our anger is solely with modern day third wave feminism, which is more interested in condescending and controlling men than it is equal rights.&nbsp; And as for &quot;where are these people in real life,&quot; that&#039;s been spelled out many times as well.&nbsp; Are the women of The View, Buzzfeed, Cosmopolitan, etc. not representative of women in &quot;real life?&quot;&nbsp; There&#039;s no name vloggers who&nbsp; express the same opinion.&nbsp; And FYI, there are women who also rant against third wave feminism because they recognize it&#039;s just anti-male bullshit. It&#039;s pretty telling when people who don&#039;t want anybody controlling or talking down to them spend their time doing those things to other people.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 88264, member: 35"] I've only skimmed the rest of the thread because it's clear what direction it's going in. You're going to continue to be "sickened and appalled" and find our "rants against feminism horrible" because you're not interested in the substance of what we're saying. No one on this thread is siding against victims of sexual abuse. What we're calling out are the feminists who speak down to men, treat them like they're all potential rapists or rape enablers, expect men to conform to their way of thinking, and yet trivialize abuse against men and boys. And as for "not understanding feminism," we understand the movement's original purpose was equality for both genders. However, we've made it clear countless times that our anger is solely with modern day[I] third wave[/I] feminism, which is more interested in condescending and controlling men than it is equal rights. And as for "where are these people in real life," that's been spelled out many times as well. Are the women of The View, Buzzfeed, Cosmopolitan, etc. not representative of women in "real life?" There's no name vloggers who express the same opinion. And FYI, there are women who also rant against third wave feminism because they recognize it's just anti-male bullshit. It's pretty telling when people who don't want anybody controlling or talking down to them spend their time doing those things to other people. [/QUOTE]

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