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Neil Young and Joni Mitchell leave Spotify over Joe Rogan
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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 314827" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>That's a strawman argument. Rogan didn't actually call anybody the N word.</p><p></p><p>Although I choose to refer to the "N word" whenever I'm discussing it, I get why not everybody softens it. For example, a person quoting a racist or teaching someone the historical and hateful impact of that word might say it in that context to drive home just how ugly it is. I understand others feel differently about it being used at all, though.</p><p></p><p>IMO, the worst thing Rogan said was that Planet of the Apes joke. Years ago, black and white comics would often get together and roast each other. Many of the jokes said by both sides were racially charged. However, it was obvious that was their way of taking the piss out of racism since they were all in on the joke. In contrast, Rogan appeared to make a racist joke for the hell of it. Comics are constantly trying to cross the line of what's acceptable comedy, and they sometimes go too far. I'm glad Rogan apologized for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And creating strawman arguments says a lot about your values. I never said anybody had the right to call black people the N word. Discussing the historical connotation of the N word, as well as its usage in comedy, television, film, music, and print isn't racist in my opinion. I'm personally not comfortable with using the word myself, but I do believe the intent behind it should still matter. Rogan seemed genuinely upset and apologetic that his remarks hurt others to me. If other people don't believe he's being sincere, so be it.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, I'm glad the people who think saying the N word under any circumstance is racist now have video proof of President Biden saying it. That still applies, right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 314827, member: 35"] That's a strawman argument. Rogan didn't actually call anybody the N word. Although I choose to refer to the "N word" whenever I'm discussing it, I get why not everybody softens it. For example, a person quoting a racist or teaching someone the historical and hateful impact of that word might say it in that context to drive home just how ugly it is. I understand others feel differently about it being used at all, though. IMO, the worst thing Rogan said was that Planet of the Apes joke. Years ago, black and white comics would often get together and roast each other. Many of the jokes said by both sides were racially charged. However, it was obvious that was their way of taking the piss out of racism since they were all in on the joke. In contrast, Rogan appeared to make a racist joke for the hell of it. Comics are constantly trying to cross the line of what's acceptable comedy, and they sometimes go too far. I'm glad Rogan apologized for it. And creating strawman arguments says a lot about your values. I never said anybody had the right to call black people the N word. Discussing the historical connotation of the N word, as well as its usage in comedy, television, film, music, and print isn't racist in my opinion. I'm personally not comfortable with using the word myself, but I do believe the intent behind it should still matter. Rogan seemed genuinely upset and apologetic that his remarks hurt others to me. If other people don't believe he's being sincere, so be it. Anyhow, I'm glad the people who think saying the N word under any circumstance is racist now have video proof of President Biden saying it. That still applies, right? [/QUOTE]
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