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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 101756" data-attributes="member: 35">Excellent post.&nbsp; I know all too well what it&#039;s like trying to articulate this point of view to liberals, only for them to ignore or dismiss it.&nbsp; I&#039;ve had people on this board tell me I was influenced by Putin, that my dislike for Hillary and the establishment media is &quot;bizarre,&quot; that I&#039;m probably a misogynist because I dislike Hillary (even though I voted for Jill Stein), etc.I also find it interesting that the left shames progressives who didn&#039;t vote for Hillary.&nbsp; As if any candidate is ever entitled to our vote.&nbsp; It makes no sense to me to have to choose between two candidates I find reprehensible and who don&#039;t share my views on policy, regardless of their chances of winning.&nbsp; The whole point of a democracy is that our vote goes to the candidate who best represents our views.&nbsp; If liberals want to thumb their nose at class injustice in favor of identity politics, this is what they get.&nbsp; And it&#039;s not like Dems in America oppose Trump all that much.&nbsp; Many of them have supported his nominees, increasing the military budget by $700 billion, extending warrantless surveillance of Americans, etc.But hey, at least they get on their soapbox whenever he insults someone on Twitter!&nbsp; So yeah, count me in as someone who identifies more with the old school left wing than what the left has devolved into.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 101756, member: 35"] Excellent post. I know all too well what it's like trying to articulate this point of view to liberals, only for them to ignore or dismiss it. I've had people on this board tell me I was influenced by Putin, that my dislike for Hillary and the establishment media is "bizarre," that I'm probably a misogynist because I dislike Hillary (even though I voted for Jill Stein), etc. I also find it interesting that the left shames progressives who didn't vote for Hillary. As if any candidate is ever entitled to our vote. It makes no sense to me to have to choose between two candidates I find reprehensible and who don't share my views on policy, regardless of their chances of winning. The whole point of a democracy is that our vote goes to the candidate who best represents our views. If liberals want to thumb their nose at class injustice in favor of identity politics, this is what they get. And it's not like Dems in America oppose Trump all that much. Many of them have supported his nominees, increasing the military budget by $700 billion, extending warrantless surveillance of Americans, etc. But hey, at least they get on their soapbox whenever he insults someone on Twitter! So yeah, count me in as someone who identifies more with the old school left wing than what the left has devolved into. [/QUOTE]

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