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<blockquote data-quote="SueEllenRules!" data-source="post: 53952" data-attributes="member: 87">True, but I still say Democrats should continue giving them a dose of their own medicine. They want to go nuclear to confirm Gorsuch? Fine. We&#039;ll keep that in mind when we regain control of the Senate. What goes around comes around. Of course it is. What the hell good is principle without power? Manchin and Heitkamp are both from deep red states. Frankly, I don&#039;t see how they were elected in the first place. Will supporting Gorsuch help them get re-elected? Who knows? But would I rather have the two of them return to the Senate than two Republicans, especially when the Democrats can filibuster Gorsuch without them? Well, duh.Standing on principle gets you a Trump presidency. What was the difference between Hillary Clinton winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (and, therefore, the presidency)? The ballots cast for Jill Stein in those states &quot;on principle.&quot; Standing on principle also brought us the disastrous Bush presidency. What was the difference between Al Gore winning Florida and the presidency (besides the Supreme Court stopping the recount)? The ballots cast for Ralph Nader &quot;on principle.&quot; In fact, even without Florida, Gore would still have won if not for the ballots cast for Nader in New Hampshire &quot;on principle.&quot; Would Green Party voters just as soon have a Republican in office as a Democrat? Somehow I doubt it, but that&#039;s effectively what they achieved.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SueEllenRules!, post: 53952, member: 87"] True, but I still say Democrats should continue giving them a dose of their own medicine. They want to go nuclear to confirm Gorsuch? Fine. We'll keep that in mind when we regain control of the Senate. What goes around comes around. Of course it is. What the hell good is principle without power? Manchin and Heitkamp are both from deep red states. Frankly, I don't see how they were elected in the first place. Will supporting Gorsuch help them get re-elected? Who knows? But would I rather have the two of them return to the Senate than two Republicans, especially when the Democrats can filibuster Gorsuch without them? Well, duh. Standing on principle gets you a Trump presidency. What was the difference between Hillary Clinton winning Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin (and, therefore, the presidency)? The ballots cast for Jill Stein in those states "on principle." Standing on principle also brought us the disastrous Bush presidency. What was the difference between Al Gore winning Florida and the presidency (besides the Supreme Court stopping the recount)? The ballots cast for Ralph Nader "on principle." In fact, even without Florida, Gore would still have won if not for the ballots cast for Nader in New Hampshire "on principle." Would Green Party voters just as soon have a Republican in office as a Democrat? Somehow I doubt it, but that's effectively what they achieved. [/QUOTE]

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