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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 341857" data-attributes="member: 35">I'm confused as to how Fox and MSNBC are not considered part of the mainstream media since they're corporately owned and spout the narrative of their chosen parties.  The same goes for CNN.  Either way, you're primarily getting information with a neocon/neoliberal bent.  The main thing that separates them is their stance on the culture wars.I also hear people talk about Fox, MSNBC, and CNN far more than any other outlet when it comes to conversations about the mainstream media.  I find the other sources of mainstream media you mentioned just as odious, but their propaganda doesn't run 24/7.  When I think of outliers, I think of independent media outlets on sites like YouTube.</blockquote>