Russian dossier on Trump gaining credibility with law enforcement

[McGarrett]

And Hillary finds it so necessary to remind people that Oscar De Larenta was an immigrant. YEAH???? And your point?????

I believe he came to this country LEGALLY.

So Hills what piece of wisdom are you trying to impart?

Without immigrants there would be no over priced designer garments?

This is coming from a woman who spends thousands on clothes that make her look like the silhouette on Ladies Room signs.

 

[SueEllenRules!]

only if you include illegal and dead people. .

By the rules in place..

The rules that you'd be absolutely outraged by had they benefited Hillary Clinton. A wretched aberration by any other name still stinks to high heaven.

You are such a goober you thing they would have campaigned the same..

You mean Trump wouldn't have campaigned as the sociopath that appealed to depraved voters nationwide?

You are delusional. .

I'll start worrying when my level of delusion approaches that of Trump, who claims he had the greatest Electoral College victory since Ronald Reagan (which is true as long as you don't count George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama, all of whom had bigger Electoral College victories than the colossal liar). And more importantly, they all won the popular vote as well.

 

[McGarrett]

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Perfect for the Clinton Kool-Aid drinker..

The rules that you'd be absolutely outraged by had they benefited Hillary Clinton. A wretched aberration by any other name still stinks to high heaven.

No I certainly would not have.. I know how the process works.. Every state has a say.. Otherwise why have state laws? We are a union of fifty entities not one single entity. .

Trump ran a brilliant campaign relentlessly hitting states that he can close the gap on and it paid off.WHY?? Because the election is based on the electorate. . If it wasn't he would have campaigned in NY and California. . And Hillary in Texas..

You mean Trump wouldn't have campaigned as the sociopath that appealed to depraved voters nationwide?

You mean like Hillary? ?
That is how you chose to spin and interpret it.

I'll start worrying when my level of delusion approaches that of Trump, who claims he had the greatest Electoral College victory since Ronald Reagan (which is true as long as you don't count George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama, all of whom had bigger Electoral College victories than the colossal liar). And more importantly, they all won the popular vote as well.

Trump is a self promoting grandstander like most moguls. .. I am confident his voters knew this.. He acclimated it to politics which does not really go over like it does in the private sector.. But he is new at it.. Besides I love when Clinton fans cry liar

It was an epic victory... He brilliantly used the media to his advantage.. Hillary had to beg for contributions. . Trump did not...

He had a perfect strategy for the rules in place and pulled it off.. Like it or not he is a winner..

 

[McGarrett]

 

[SueEllenRules!]

Perfect for the Clinton Kool-Aid drinker..

Clinton voters generally don't subscribe to batsh!t crazy conspiracy theories that have no credible evidence whatsoever to back them up. Reality is already strange enough. For example, Russia successfully conspiring to deliver the American presidency to their candidate of choice.

No I certainly would not have..

What utter bullsh!t. If Hillary had lost the popular vote but won the Electoral College, your attitude would do a 180 so fast, the earth would reverse its rotation.

I know how the process works..

That would be a first.

Every state has a say..

Some states have a far bigger say. Despite having a far smaller population.

Otherwise why have state laws?

Huh?

We are a union of fifty entities

So some of the fifty entities should have more electoral power per capita than others? There would be something wrong with every citizen within the fifty having an equal say in matters that affect the union?

not one single entity. .

So much for one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Trump ran a brilliant campaign

Or absolutely disgusting, depending on how you choose to spin and interpret it.

relentlessly hitting states that he can close the gap on and it paid off.

And here I thought the nimrod just got incredibly lucky because of 77,000 fellow nimrods in 3 states.

WHY?? Because the election is based on the electorate. . If it wasn't he would have campaigned in NY

New York? Where Hillary beat Trump by 1,732,973 votes (58% versus 36%)? This is where you think an @$$hole like Trump could pick up votes?

and California

California? Where Hillary beat Trump by 4,269,978 votes (62% versus 32%)? Sounds like a prime target for a xenophobe if I've ever seen one.

And Hillary in Texas..

Texas? Where Trump won by 807,179 votes (52% versus 43%)? Well, at least that's the first scenario that makes any sense at all, considering that 37.6% of the population there is Hispanic and would likely be more than happy to sell Trump down the river.

You mean like Hillary? ?

No, I mean the sociopath who campaigned on racism, xenophobia, and misogyny and apparently tapped into the instincts of an astounding number of people as depraved as he is.

That is how you chose to spin and interpret it.

That's the way it is.

Trump is a self promoting grandstander like most moguls. .. I am confident his voters knew this.. He acclimated it to politics which does not really go over like it does in the private sector.. But he is new at it.. Besides I love when Clinton fans cry liar

So it wasn't a lie when Trump claimed he had the greatest Electoral College victory since Ronald Reagan?

It was an epic victory...

He lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million and barely won the electoral vote in 3 essential states by a margin of <1%. Sounds like a real landslide.

He brilliantly used the media to his advantage..

Not to mention 63 million chumps.

Hillary had to beg for contributions. .

Clinton Has More Than Twice Trump’s Campaign Cash in Race’s Final Days
http://fortune.com/2016/10/28/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-campaign-fundraising/

Trump did not...

You really should work for the Trump administration. You've already got the "alternative facts" requirement down pat.

He had a perfect strategy for the rules in place and pulled it off..

Again, 77,000 nimrods in 3 states. It's called pure luck/wretched aberration/grievous technicality/freak of nature. Take your pick. Brilliant strategist?
.

Like it or not he is a winner..

Only in America can you get 3 million fewer votes than your opponent and still come out a "winner."

 

[McGarrett]

It is just the same circular bullshit with you.

You DON'T speak for me and if Trump lost the election and won the pop vote it would not have mattered, as I know the rules.. Trump and Hillary played by the rules in place.. And Trump clearly did a better job.

Trump won the election because he outworked Hillary. He campaigned harder than she did and he did a better job of motivating his supporters to go out and vote.

Trump was always on the campaign trail and put in long hours, and as election day neared he focused on the important battleground states that he needed to have in order to win.

States like Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

These were all important states and he won all of them because he campaigned harder and motivated his supporters to go out and vote. Hillary spent less time on the campaign trail, she didn't even bother to campaign at all in Wisconsin. As the saying goes, snooze and you lose.

In person campaigning is always underrated today, and I think that's especially true in this past campaign. There were long stretches where Trump talked to as many people in a day as Clinton did in a week, and that contact multiplies in importance.

Gotta meet the people.

Hillary had her campaign dinners begging elites for money while Trump used the media instead of begging and busted his ass in those battleground states..

The election is over and Hillary is NOT going to be president dems should figure out how to reconnect with the working class instead of crying about how their heroine didn't win..

 

[SueEllenRules!]

Since it is the same exact dumb argument on two threads..........

I wrote this morning......

So your response is to not respond to anything in my post? Of course, why would you when you can't challenge any assertion I made?

 

[McGarrett]

Since it is the same exact dumb argument on two threads..........

I wrote this morning......

So your response is to not respond to anything in my post? Of course, why would you when you can't challenge any assertion I made?

That's a lie,, I just did.. Put it onto threads and this is your feeble way to countering..

The 2016 election is over. If you want to see Trump get impeached, good luck with that as Republicans control every branch of government.

Maybe in 2018 Dems can bring up impeachment if they retake a house of Congress, but that's a big if.

Getting their clocks cleaned by Republicans in this election should show the pathetic state the Democratic Party is in now. They have to find a way to reconnect with working class voters.

That wiill be hard for them to do though, as they prefer to suck up to donors.

Dems need to put this behind them and focus on the future.

 

[SueEllenRules!]

That's a lie,,

No, it's not.

I just did..

No, you didn't.

Put it onto threads and this is your feeble way to countering..

Pot, meet Kettle.

The 2016 election is over.

You ought to let Trump in on that, considering that he held yet another campaign rally yesterday.

If you want to see Trump get impeached, good luck with that

I'd rather see him prosecuted for treason. Or run out of town on a rail. But I'll take what I can get.

as Republicans control every branch of government.

They don't control the Supreme Court. Not yet anyway. And even if they manage to get Gorsuch confirmed (and that's a big if), it will still be a 4-4 split with Kennedy often being a swing vote. For example, over the past 11 years on the Roberts Court, there have been 16 cases in which the justices split 5-to-4, strictly along ideological lines. Kennedy joined the conservative wing of the court 11 times; the liberals, 5, one being the decision to legalize same-sex marriage in 2015. In fact, he authored the majority opinion in that case.

Maybe in 2018 Dems can bring up impeachment if they retake a house of Congress, but that's a big if.

You think so? We only need 3 seats to gain control of the Senate. I'd be far more surprised if the Republicans don't go down in flames.

Getting their clocks cleaned by Republicans in this election should show the pathetic state the Democratic Party is in now.

The Democrats had a net gain of 6 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate. You consider that getting your clock cleaned? Oh, right...you're the guy who thinks winning the presidency by the skin of your teeth is "an epic victory."

They have to find a way to reconnect with working class voters.

More specifically, dumbass working class voters. I'm not sure I want the support of that demographic. Any more than a genius would want to take a dip in their gene pool.

That wiill be hard for them to do though, as they prefer to suck up to donors.

That's rich coming from the party that only gives a sh!t about the wealthiest 1%.

Dems need to put this behind them and focus on the future.

Says the guy whose personal hero's favorite pastime is taking victory laps and demonizing the press as "the enemy of the American people."

 

[McGarrett]

No, it's not.


No, you didn't.


Pot, meet Kettle.


You ought to let Trump in on that, considering that he held yet another campaign rally yesterday.


I'd rather see him prosecuted for treason. Or run out of town on a rail. But I'll take what I can get.


They don't control the Supreme Court. Not yet anyway. And even if they manage to get Gorsuch confirmed (and that's a big if), it will still be a 4-4 split with Kennedy often being a swing vote. For example, over the past 11 years on the Roberts Court, there have been 16 cases in which the justices split 5-to-4, strictly along ideological lines. Kennedy joined the conservative wing of the court 11 times; the liberals, 5, one being the decision to legalize same-sex marriage in 2015. In fact, he authored the majority opinion in that case.


You think so? We only need 3 seats to gain control of the Senate. I'd be far more surprised if the Republicans don't go down in flames.


The Democrats had a net gain of 6 seats in the House and 2 in the Senate. You consider that getting your clock cleaned? Oh, right...you're the guy who thinks winning the presidency by the skin of your teeth is "an epic victory."


More specifically, dumbass working class voters. I'm not sure I want the support of that demographic. Any more than a genius would want to take a dip in their gene pool.


That's rich coming from the party that only gives a sh!t about the wealthiest 1%.


Says the guy whose personal hero's favorite pastime is taking victory laps and demonizing the press as "the enemy of the American people."

Are these assertions? ?

Yes.. I remember all your accurate predictions last summer, Kreskin..

 

[SueEllenRules!]

Are these assertions? ?

Cold, hard facts, actually.

Yes.. I remember all your accurate predictions last summer, Kreskin..

You mean the same predictions you made on Election Day, Nostradamus?

 

[McGarrett]

 

[SueEllenRules!]

My suggestion: go watch footage from any Trump rally.

 

[Gabriel Maxwell]

The Independent reports British spy Chris Steele has been approached about testifying before the US Senate Intelligence Committee’s investigation into Trump's ties with Russia.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-hotel-british-spy-mi6-evidence-a7608456.html

"Mr Steele has not yet responded to requests to meet with Senate officials – described as informal at this stage – for testimony, which have come over the last fortnight. But friends say he may be willing to speak about his investigation to senators and US officials if certain security conditions are met."

 

[Gabriel Maxwell]

Here is a Trump Dossier Analysis which is currently being retweeted from a variety of sources I've been following (you may need a Google account to view it):

https://t.co/VPKUNyUhrG

One of the highlights? The "surprising" December 2016 sale of a 19.5% share in the largest Russian oil company Rosneft to the Qatar Investment Authority (for $11 billion) which had been linked to Trump.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/07/business/dealbook/russia-oil-rosneft-glencore-qatar.html?_r=0

The dossier which had been floating in Washington for months prior to its publication by Buzzfeed in January, predicted a 19% share of Rosneft as an alleged payment for future lifting of the sanctions the Obama administration imposed on Russia.