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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevew" data-source="post: 222051" data-attributes="member: 130">Yes the confederacy considered themselves a foreign power with each state sovereign.  It printed its own money, had its own governments and a confederate union. There would be no diplomacy once they succeeded just as we didn’t go into discussion a with Japan after Pearl Harbor.  Yes the issues that lead the south to choose to separate were discussed since prior to even creating a nation. It was decades long worth of talk and appeasement of the south.  Lincoln was clear he was willing to continue appeasement.  The south choose to separate as they were done negotiating and wanted their own nation - which they created.  Lincoln did not get those people killed, the people who relinquished belonging to this county and declared they were taking the southern half of this country did.  I don’t blame Roosevelt for getting us into WWII and I don’t blame Lincoln for the Civil War.  I blame the aggressors.  In Roosevelt’s case they were flat up enemies.  In Lincoln’s case they were traitors who left to become enemies.  Then they had the audacity to act as if they were the victims and people like you buy it.</blockquote>