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So Cynthia Cidre was correct all along...my apoligies.

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
I recently read an online article about Cloyce Box, owner of Box Ranch and the first location used for Southfork. He once held the annual Cattle Baron's Ball at this property. This would explain how it managed to sneak into Cynthia's version of Dallas rather than the Oil Baron's Ball we all grew up with. Cynthia proved me wrong. She managed to insert a factual event into her fictional version.
 

stevew

Telly Talk Star
They do a cattle barons ball now in Dallas every year. It's not a bit of reality that was, it's not using the actual fictional story. If she wanted a cattle barons ball she should of first did an oil barons ball. I'm sure the Ewings attend many charity events.
 

Presea

Telly Talk Addict
I recently read an online article about Cloyce Box, owner of Box Ranch and the first location used for Southfork. He once held the annual Cattle Baron's Ball at this property. This would explain how it managed to sneak into Cynthia's version of Dallas rather than the Oil Baron's Ball we all grew up with. Cynthia proved me wrong. She managed to insert a factual event into her fictional version.
It's okay, Rove. Cidre was wrong so much that it became too difficult to actually detect when something from her might actually be true.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
I recently read an online article about Cloyce Box, owner of Box Ranch and the first location used for Southfork. He once held the annual Cattle Baron's Ball at this property. This would explain how it managed to sneak into Cynthia's version of Dallas rather than the Oil Baron's Ball we all grew up with. Cynthia proved me wrong. She managed to insert a factual event into her fictional version.

Cynthia Cidre wouldn't know a good storyline unless it was tattooed on her ass, where she keeps her brains. :crazyme:
 

Spooky Owl!

Telly Talk Supreme
It was discussed here that The Cattle Baron's Ball was a real thing, and a well-known event.

Now, if we could've just convinced Cidre that Miss Ellie wasn't married to Carter McKay for 15 years....
 

Frankenstein Underworld

Telly Talk Champion
The Cattle Barons Ball may be a real event in Dallas, but Cidre also thought it was the event that the Ewings attended on the show. It wasn't until Patrick Duffy asked her why she changed it to the Cattle Barons Ball that she realized her mistake. She also gave an interview where she said she liked to incorporate real events and places into the show. I know some people see it as a minor issue, but I didn't like that she ignored much of the show's fictional reality. That's why Braddock was gone, Exxon took the place of West Star, and The Petroleum Club took the place of the Oil Barons Club. The show wasn't meant to be a documentary, so I don't know why she was so insistent on using real places over fictional ones.

Then again, Cidre didn't mind altering back stories either. She talked a good game about preserving the history of the show, but it was total bullshit.
 

Ray_Krebbs

Telly Talk Well-Known Member
Did the New Dallas have Miss Ellie married to McKay? I do not remember that. I could actually see that if Clayton did die or a divorce happened. Imagine the dinners with Mac and J.R. lol. Mac would go, "Don't give me that crap!" And then would flip the dining room table over before karate chopping it in half.
 

pete lashmar

Telly Talk Addict
TNT totally ignored Clayton who had been on the show far longer than many others. CC should never have been let near the show & to be fair Larry, Patrick & Linda should have put many of the things she got wrong right, it's as if it was a payday opportunity rather than a respectful continuation for them.
 

Luke_Krebbs_Ewing

Telly Talk Champion
Did the New Dallas have Miss Ellie married to McKay? I do not remember that. I could actually see that if Clayton did die or a divorce happened. Imagine the dinners with Mac and J.R. lol. Mac would go, "Don't give me that crap!" And then would flip the dining room table over before karate chopping it in half.

Miss Ellie was married to Jock Ewing during her original incarnation before regenerating into another little old lady who had a penchant for gaudy dresses.

She got fed up with her second incarnation & regenerated again into a body identical to her original incarnation! When Wes Parmalee went to the house that fateful day that he left Dallas, Miss Ellie tossed him out the front door over her shoulder & past the rose bushes! Parmalee admitted that he wasn't Jason Ewing & he wasn't Jock Ewing either. When he admitted that his name was Blake Carrington & he took the face mask off revealing John Forsythe underneath that's when Miss Ellie grabbed him & threw him out the door!

So now the secret of Wes Parmalee is finally revealed, he was really Blake Carrington all along! :D
 
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Piggyrella Sanderson

Maximum Member
I think all these ideas above are false. And all are true, too. In fact, the original "Dallas" starred Donna Reed and Steve Forrest as the Ewing patriarchs, Robert Foxworth as J.R., Mary Frann as Sue Ellen, Lisa Hartman as Lucy, Steve Kanaly as Bobby, Ken Kercheval as Ray, and, of course, Victoria Principal as Pam. This alternate reality version was titled "Dallas Landing" and was produced and written by David Jacobs all the way. Have you ever heard about quantum physics? Parallel universes? Ask David Lynch about it...And why VP was Pam in both versions? Because she got "star quality" and besides, she had time for dreaming that other "alternate season" we all love/hate...and for the "Family Guy" universe too.

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Here´s VP jumping between universes...​
 

Karin

Moderator
Staff Member
I think all these ideas above are false. And all are true, too. In fact, the original "Dallas" starred Donna Reed and Steve Forrest as the Ewing patriarchs, Robert Foxworth as J.R., Mary Frann as Sue Ellen, Lisa Hartman as Lucy, Steve Kanaly as Bobby, Ken Kercheval as Ray, and, of course, Victoria Principal as Pam.

Wrong, Linda Evans was Pam.
That's why they originally called it "The Untitled Linda Evans Project!" :lol:
 

Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
If she wanted a cattle barons ball she should of first did an oil barons ball. I'm sure the Ewings attend many charity events.

I say the more Charity Events the Ewing family attend the better. Just another opportunity for poor Cliff Barnes to wear another cake...in the face.
 
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