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<blockquote data-quote="Laurie!" data-source="post: 410353" data-attributes="member: 2210">That&#039;s false equivalence.&nbsp; The only reason Trump wants to stop funding Ukraine is because he&#039;s under Putin&#039;s orders to do so.&nbsp; By the way, doing so only increases the likelihood of more innocent civilians dying.&nbsp; The Ukrainian people aren&#039;t going to concede defeat just because US money dries up.&nbsp; You&#039;ve never met a Ukrainian who believes in democracy and loves their country if you believe they will.Securing the border didn&#039;t matter to Trump either when he ordered the bill quashed.&nbsp; We&#039;ve been down this road before.All politicians need to make decisions sometimes they don&#039;t enjoy or fully believe in.&nbsp; It&#039;s the nature of the beast. Just like having to order the take down of a hijacked plane with 300 innocent lives on board if it&#039;s flying towards a packed stadium of people.BTW, your prison labor thing was actually the California Justice Department lawyers, not Harris herself as AG. I could refute all but my posts get too long.Politician&#039;s agendas also get stopped by a partisan senate and a Congress that is divisive and wants to sabotage the other party&#039;s goals.Being VP is mostly just a title with little power other than being 2nd in command in the event the President can&#039;t continue.&nbsp; You know that so why try to sell the Republican talking points of &quot;why hasn&#039;t she done it in 3 years&quot;?&nbsp; The obvious response is...Trump was actually 1st in command for 4 years.&nbsp; Why didn&#039;t he &quot;make America great again&quot; then?&nbsp; On a side note, I&#039;d argue that America is pretty great still and it&#039;s traitorous to say otherwise..&nbsp; Not as great as Canada of course (hehe).Of course they&#039;re never held accountable as President&#039;s but as civilians they should be.&nbsp; Like I said, Hunter will likely do jail time unless Biden pardons him.&nbsp; He says he won&#039;t.&nbsp; We&#039;ll see if he believes some jail time would do Hunter well as some tough love.So I still say when it comes to morality as a whole (we&#039;re all flawed somewhat), Kamala Harris is vastly superior to the p.o.s. Trump who continues to inflame the racist divide for his own selfish agenda....and is a convicted felon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Laurie!, post: 410353, member: 2210"] That's false equivalence. The only reason Trump wants to stop funding Ukraine is because he's under Putin's orders to do so. By the way, doing so only increases the likelihood of more innocent civilians dying. The Ukrainian people aren't going to concede defeat just because US money dries up. You've never met a Ukrainian who believes in democracy and loves their country if you believe they will. Securing the border didn't matter to Trump either when he ordered the bill quashed. We've been down this road before. All politicians need to make decisions sometimes they don't enjoy or fully believe in. It's the nature of the beast. Just like having to order the take down of a hijacked plane with 300 innocent lives on board if it's flying towards a packed stadium of people. BTW, your prison labor thing was actually the California Justice Department lawyers, not Harris herself as AG. I could refute all but my posts get too long. Politician's agendas also get stopped by a partisan senate and a Congress that is divisive and wants to sabotage the other party's goals. Being VP is mostly just a title with little power other than being 2nd in command in the event the President can't continue. You know that so why try to sell the Republican talking points of "why hasn't she done it in 3 years"? The obvious response is...Trump was actually 1st in command for 4 years. Why didn't he "make America great again" then? On a side note, I'd argue that America is pretty great still and it's traitorous to say otherwise.. Not as great as Canada of course (hehe). Of course they're never held accountable as President's but as civilians they should be. Like I said, Hunter will likely do jail time unless Biden pardons him. He says he won't. We'll see if he believes some jail time would do Hunter well as some tough love. So I still say when it comes to morality as a whole (we're all flawed somewhat), Kamala Harris is vastly superior to the p.o.s. Trump who continues to inflame the racist divide for his own selfish agenda....and is a convicted felon. [/QUOTE]

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