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<blockquote data-quote="Laurie!" data-source="post: 410403" data-attributes="member: 2210">The only way to rid yourself of a defeatist mentality like that (another imperialist takes their place) is to try, try and try again.I would hope history wouldn&#039;t be kind to those who&#039;d abandon Ukraine (and Gaza, etc.) to let the Putins and Netanyahu&#039;s of the world win.&nbsp; I know I don&#039;t want my government to stop funding Ukraine&#039;s defense or humanitarian aid to Gaza, etc.&nbsp; It&#039;s not like the $100 billion isn&#039;t being returned to Americans in some way.&nbsp; For example, you&#039;re not providing Ukraine with the best, most recent weaponry.&nbsp; So you&#039;re getting rid of old military inventory essentially and Americans are building&nbsp; new inventory.&nbsp; That creates jobs in several areas and puts more tax dollars in the coffers. The Haitians came legally and most came before Biden&#039;s term to my knowledge.&nbsp; The town of Springfield citizens and leaders all say the Haitians filled empty job positions and are an asset to the community....except the racist ones.&nbsp; Then the current racist Republicans trounce on an internet rabbit hole to stoke the fear and divide.Bottom line is, Trump brings another 4 years of stoking racism, chaos, division and loyalty to Putin.&nbsp; He only cares about exacting revenge on his perceived enemies and couldn&#039;t really care less about making America better.&nbsp; As far as innocent civilians abroad are concerned...Trump says about entire countries, he&#039;ll &quot;blow them off the map&quot;.&nbsp; The 1st 4 years in office, Trump at least had to tow the line for potential re-election.&nbsp; That term was crazy over the top chaotic, so imagine what an unleashed Trump will do for himself in an additional 4 years where he can&#039;t be re-elected.Harris in my opinion is at least stable, intelligent and I honestly believe she truly wants to make positive change for the country.&nbsp; She&#039;s not consumed with revenge and staying out of prison like her opponent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Laurie!, post: 410403, member: 2210"] The only way to rid yourself of a defeatist mentality like that (another imperialist takes their place) is to try, try and try again. I would hope history wouldn't be kind to those who'd abandon Ukraine (and Gaza, etc.) to let the Putins and Netanyahu's of the world win. I know I don't want my government to stop funding Ukraine's defense or humanitarian aid to Gaza, etc. It's not like the $100 billion isn't being returned to Americans in some way. For example, you're not providing Ukraine with the best, most recent weaponry. So you're getting rid of old military inventory essentially and Americans are building new inventory. That creates jobs in several areas and puts more tax dollars in the coffers. The Haitians came legally and most came before Biden's term to my knowledge. The town of Springfield citizens and leaders all say the Haitians filled empty job positions and are an asset to the community....except the racist ones. Then the current racist Republicans trounce on an internet rabbit hole to stoke the fear and divide. Bottom line is, Trump brings another 4 years of stoking racism, chaos, division and loyalty to Putin. He only cares about exacting revenge on his perceived enemies and couldn't really care less about making America better. As far as innocent civilians abroad are concerned...Trump says about entire countries, he'll "blow them off the map". The 1st 4 years in office, Trump at least had to tow the line for potential re-election. That term was crazy over the top chaotic, so imagine what an unleashed Trump will do for himself in an additional 4 years where he can't be re-elected. Harris in my opinion is at least stable, intelligent and I honestly believe she truly wants to make positive change for the country. She's not consumed with revenge and staying out of prison like her opponent. [/QUOTE]

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