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<blockquote data-quote="Snarky Oracle!" data-source="post: 438829" data-attributes="member: 57984">I saw some of BEN HUR again yesterday, and thought Stephen Boyd was pretty good (chuckling over the fact that the producer, screenwriter and Boyd were in on the underscored gay-lovers-reunited angle of Gore Vidal&#039;s script, and kept secret from Heston for 40 years because they knew he&#039;d &quot;fall apart&quot; if he knew about it -- and he did).They had already paid Boyd to do CLEOPATRA, but it&#039;s hard to imagine the movie with anybody but Elizabeth&#039;s frog -- greasy, overwrought Burton in the role of Mark Antony. (Joe Mankiewicz originally wanted Brando to reprise the part, but Marlon was busy with something .... and how do get around the billing issues??)Joan Collins had the right look and gliding gait for the queen of the Nile but, as I&#039;ve often said, there&#039;s a highschool drama club quality about her that limits her. She&#039;s just too self-conscious, too insecure and trying not to seem it. Joan was much better suited for embittered, narcissistic aging harridans out-for-revenge roles like Alexis. She could always play bitches (anger focuses some borderline actors) even back in her youth, but regal splendor in her twenties was more of a chore... She did okay in campy LAND OF THE PHAROAHS, but her screen tests for CLEO were pretty weak. There&#039;s a reason she didn&#039;t become a full-on movie star in the &#039;50s and &#039;60s: she was pretty and had something perhaps, but she was going to have to crawl up the ladder in a different way.&quot;Don&#039;t you want the world...?&quot; <img src="https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uqXgWlkCSEU/hqdefault.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="width: 806px" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Snarky Oracle!, post: 438829, member: 57984"] I saw some of BEN HUR again yesterday, and thought Stephen Boyd was pretty good (chuckling over the fact that the producer, screenwriter and Boyd were in on the underscored [I]gay-lovers-reunited[/I] angle of Gore Vidal's script, and kept secret from Heston for 40 years because they knew he'd "fall apart" if he knew about it -- and he did). They had already paid Boyd to do CLEOPATRA, but it's hard to imagine the movie with anybody but Elizabeth's frog -- greasy, overwrought Burton in the role of Mark Antony. (Joe Mankiewicz originally wanted Brando to reprise the part, but Marlon was busy with something .... and how do get around the billing issues??) Joan Collins had the right look and gliding gait for the queen of the Nile but, as I've often said, there's a highschool drama club quality about her that limits her. She's just too self-conscious, too insecure and trying not to seem it. Joan was much better suited for embittered, narcissistic aging harridans out-for-revenge roles like Alexis. She could always play bitches (anger focuses some borderline actors) even back in her youth, but regal splendor in her twenties was more of a chore... She did okay in campy LAND OF THE PHAROAHS, but her screen tests for CLEO were pretty weak. There's a reason she didn't become a full-on movie star in the '50s and '60s: she was pretty and had [I]something [/I]perhaps, but she was going to have to crawl up the ladder in a different way. [I][/I] [B][I]"Don't you want the world...?"[/I][/B] [IMG width="806px"]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uqXgWlkCSEU/hqdefault.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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